[kanundrum]

ever been to Cassino??? :grin2:

Caught a Shift change when we were there!!

 

[Chipps]

The Italians work more than one shift? :surprise:

 

[MDriver]

Update...

Just got off the phone with both Alfa-Care Rep & Regional Rep...
car is half fixed???............LMAO
the parts came in for the headlight washer assembly on both sides and that was supposedly done...
however the more important CEL issues is still there even AFTER the software patch/update/download...and they cannot figure it out...yet!
the Regional Rep said that Alfa engineering is aware of the issue, and that a "special engineer" or should I say the Alfa NA engineer is going to see the car tomorrow or Wednesday.....so the bottom line as of this post is that they do not know what is wrong nor do they have a way to fix it as of yet.
very disappointing indeed...maybe I got the runt of the litter??
Regards
M

 

[Flyby]

MD, I hope your car gets, and stays fixed as soon as possible.
Flyby out

 

[MDriver]

Visited Dealer

So I decided to pass by the dealer not too long ago...
The car is indeed put back together...they received parts & software upgrade and performed both between Friday/Saturday...
They test drove and said everything was good.....
fast forward to today and they go to start the car and the CEL is back on...
they run a scan/flash check for codes and the tech called this one particular code a "hard code" which means you don't make it disappear but re-flashing. the code had something to do with the cam shaft sensor?? or words to that effect.
So he contacted the NE Regional Rep to inform him as well as the Alfa Engineer from Alfa NA....he was waiting to hear back...
At least the car has its bumper back on....
BTW to those who have had radio amp issues...I was told that a service bulletin was sent out to watch out for water intrusion on the rear taillight area, they advise them to "seal" around the area to prevent water from going in....so the SA at the dealer did that for me..
Regards
M

 

[MDriver]

MD, I hope your car gets, and stays fixed as soon as possible.
Flyby out

TY Flyby.....took out my E39M5 today...to put a :grin2: on my face...nothing like a V8...

 

[Flyby]

Well MD, it's good that you can smile through the Giulia's ordeal. I have no doubt that M5 of yours helps.
Flyby out

 

[DaneARFOM]

So I decided to pass by the dealer not too long ago...
The car is indeed put back together...they received parts & software upgrade and performed both between Friday/Saturday...
They test drove and said everything was good.....
fast forward to today and they go to start the car and the CEL is back on...
they run a scan/flash check for codes and the tech called this one particular code a "hard code" which means you don't make it disappear but re-flashing. the code had something to do with the cam shaft sensor?? or words to that effect.
So he contacted the NE Regional Rep to inform him as well as the Alfa Engineer from Alfa NA....he was waiting to hear back...
At least the car has its bumper back on....
BTW to those who have had radio amp issues...I was told that a service bulletin was sent out to watch out for water intrusion on the rear taillight area, they advise them to "seal" around the area to prevent water from going in....so the SA at the dealer did that for me..
Regards
M

Thank you for the tail light note. It usually takes several weeks before an engineer is sent out. I've never heard of one being dispatched that quickly. Alfa is definitely full tilt on fixing this issue. When my customer had the check engine after remote start I spoke with my rep and asked it be escalated. The next day he asked me to update on findings because corporate wanted to know. It seems the issue isn't Alfa's concern but rather getting the issue to the right people.

 

[John_K_348]

Can you see any sign of gaps around the tail light? Maybe some clear caulk or weather strip under the light housing/window could help?

 

[John_K_348]

Just saw the posts on the water intrusion. What kind of seal did they use? Were the cam sensors checked?

 

[MDriver]

Just saw the posts on the water intrusion. What kind of seal did they use? Were the cam sensors checked?

going to ask today to see if the cam sensors were checked...as far as the water intrusion they(dealer) used a silicon to seal up the gap I was told...but again I did not experience any of the infotainment/audio issues that some people have had..

 

[MDriver]

Update

just spoke with the Tech. the new code which is a hard code is for the
crankshaft ventilation system....it is saying that it is disconnected..tech said everything is connected securely...
Alfa just asked him to do an engine scan and send the information to them..engineers are working on it

 

[jeffshul]

just dropped my car off today for the software updates, glove box replacement, squeaky brakes and collision avoidance malfunctions. got a Giulia TI as a loaner

 

[EricVonHa]

just spoke with the Tech. the new code which is a hard code is for the
crankshaft ventilation system....it is saying that it is disconnected..tech said everything is connected securely...
Alfa just asked him to do an engine scan and send the information to them..engineers are working on it

Crankcase ventilation is probably something "Evap" related. The EPA OBD2 reqs don't allow for any fresh air leaks anywhere in the fuel vapor or pcv re-circ lines.

Typically the above doesn't cause any running issues. Though, if the leak is bad enough, it can effect vacuum and cause some bad idle hiccups and light throttle issues if direct port to manifold vacuum. On a new car? Should not be an issue. Half way got to wonder what they took apart to diagnose the car to begin with....

 

[MDriver]

Crankcase ventilation is probably something "Evap" related. The EPA OBD2 reqs don't allow for any fresh air leaks anywhere in the fuel vapor or pcv re-circ lines.

Typically the above doesn't cause any running issues. Though, if the leak is bad enough, it can effect vacuum and cause some bad idle hiccups and light throttle issues if direct port to manifold vacuum. On a new car? Should not be an issue. Half way got to wonder what they took apart to diagnose the car to begin with....

are you suggesting that perhaps the dealer is not competent in servicing the car??? at this point I am willing to see if they(Alfa) would bring it to someone else..

 

[EricVonHa]

Not enough info to make any assertion. Thought I'd add some technical input on the crankcase vent issue. Leaks can be incredibly difficult to track down.

 

[MDriver]

Not enough info to make any assertion. Thought I'd add some technical input on the crankcase vent issue. Leaks can be incredibly difficult to track down.

I have already asked Alfa-Care rep to see about THEM bringing the car to Miller Motors in Greenwich CT. they are an authorized Ferrari/Maserati/Alfa dealer....am waiting for a response tomorrow.

 

[John_K_348]

Cool! Are the stock pads metallic? Ferrari-Brembos are notorious for being squeaky and dusty (hence the dark wheels). I have had good luck with Posiquiet low dust low noise pads. You can get them much cheaper from Brembo in the Porsche sizes. Often the same caliper.

 

[John_K_348]

are you suggesting that perhaps the dealer is not competent in servicing the car??? at this point I am willing to see if they(Alfa) would bring it to someone else..

Noooo, just another triage tree to go down now that the car has been taken a part a bit. Or maybe a vacuum connection wasn't secure from the factory. Worked it's way loose.

 

[John_K_348]

I have already asked Alfa-Care rep to see about THEM bringing the car to Miller Motors in Greenwich CT. they are an authorized Ferrari/Maserati/Alfa dealer....am waiting for a response tomorrow.

THIS! Great shop. You can see some of the old lift anchors in the service area dating back to the Luigi Chinetti days. Cant' go wrong. Besides, you can drool over the Classiche 250 GTOs and whatnot that might be there if you visit.