Stelvio has some kind of microphone next to the intake, the signal from which is used to generate some sound in the interior. It is not clear to me if the sound is just amplified and filtered, or if it is synthesized.

 

Only amplified, unlike some others (bmw.. mercs) that fake it completely.

 

Not sure if they also do this on the Stelvio Quad but my test drive of one sure seemed like it was much louder than my QV.

 

Where did you get to test drive it?

 

There was a technical document covering this for the giulia as well, however, fortunately, afaik it was never implemented for giulia
sound enhance.pdf

 

Actually, it is an 'free' option that you can choose in the car configurator on the (European) Alfa Romeo website.

I ordered mine at the dealer in the last week of December 2017 and we went through all options double-checking things before confirming the order with Alfa Romeo. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't an option available in the car configurator tool then, so was a January 2018 addition (along with the new price list for 2018).

Thankfully, the "Engine Sound Enhancement" isn't added by default.

-krish

 

I don’t need no fake sounds. I find myself making vroom vroom and rrrrrrrRRRRRrrrrrrr sounds myself when I drive.

 

If I remember right, Back in 2009 or so the Ford Mustangs had a speaker just for enhancement.

 

I think there was also a resonator in the driver's side A-pillar.

The question is: what codes will it generate if you cut the microphone wire?

Maybe it deactivates the traction and stability control.

 

The question is: what codes will it generate if you cut the microphone wire?

 

the question is: What codes will it generate if you cut the microphone wire?

Code B140E-13.

 

Anyone know if the 2018 TiSport Giulia has this 'feature'. I really hope not. Never thought Alfa would stoop that low and do something like this (which is one of the reasons I went with Alfa to begin with).

 

My car was built in Sept 2017 (MY2018 Ti Q4 sport) and definitely does not have the microphone.
Some while ago MacGeek posted a picture of the microphone. It is fairly large and relatively easy to spot if you know what it looks like. He also said that Giulia would (likely?) eventually have this equipment.

My wiring diagram shows the microphone connected to a dedicated device for this sound generation. It is said to take the microphone input and process it to produce the result, with no clear definition of "process it". Perhaps have a helper made some random noises under the hood of a running Stelvio and see if those random noises appear on the audio in the cabin? If the signal is just being amplified wouldn't the microphone be simply connected to the AUX input of the audio system?

There are noisy things that can be heard under the hood other than the engine that one might not want to hear, such as the cooling fan, precipitation or the motorcycle in front of you. Simply amplifying the engine sound picked up by a microphone has the potential to result in obnoxious sounds in the cabin.

 

^^^ Not sure if you're serious or not...

 

Bet he is!

 

Fake engine sound be like

 

Pumping in mechanical sounds into the passenger compartment is the worst idea in automotive history. Who sits in these meetings and thinks, "yes, what a great idea". It's a horrid idea!

Fire these folks~
Greg

 

Hawkeye_a My car is also a 2018 Ti Sport, and I’m nearly sure it doesn’t have it. That the Giulia doesn’t fake its engine sound is also a major reason I bought it. Fake engine sound offends every cell in my body. It’s a complete deal-breaker for me — it simply obliterates any interest I’d otherwise have in a car.

 

Tbh its not completely unexpected that almost everyone is going this way. As tech advances keep coming the cabin gets quieter and quieter. Its just a way to compensate for that for this that want to "feel" the ride. It will also appease those who like quiet rides. Pretty much all cars will go this route so you will learn to adjust accordingly. Specially in the hybrid/electric future.

 

But isn't that the way the world is going now though? Fake everything... fake white teeth, fake hair (extensions), fake boobs, fake butts (implants), fake faces (totally covered in make-up), fake news, fake "reality" shows, fake lifestyle (selfies)... you name it. We've got an entire generation that lives in a world of non-stop fake. They're even trying to push AR "augmented reality" so you can superimpose fake on top of reality.

Who knows... maybe the "Matrix" wasn't so far-fetched after all. There are probably people who would sign-up for a deal like that if it was actually available. We live in strange times, and they seem to be getting stranger by the year.

One of the things I love about my Ti Lusso is REAL Italian leather, and REAL walnut accents. I absolutely do NOT want fake engine sounds. I was listening to the sound of a 1995 Ferrari 412 T2 last night; a real 3.0L V12. Glorious:

There's just no substitute for the real deal.

 

Oh. My. GOD! That's just beautiful. What a howl~ I love it!
GReg

But isn't that the way the world is going now though? Fake everything... fake white teeth, fake hair (extensions), fake boobs, fake butts (implants), fake faces (totally covered in make-up), fake news, fake "reality" shows, fake lifestyle (selfies)... you name it. We've got an entire generation that lives in a world of non-stop fake. They're even trying to push AR "augmented reality" so you can superimpose fake on top of reality.

Who knows... maybe the "Matrix" wasn't so far-fetched after all. There are probably people who would sign-up for a deal like that if it was actually available. We live in strange times, and they seem to be getting stranger by the year.

One of the things I love about my Ti Lusso is REAL Italian leather, and REAL walnut accents. I absolutely do NOT want fake engine sounds. I was listening to the sound of a 1995 Ferrari 412 T2 last night; a real 3.0L V12. Glorious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SoZiTxdQyw

There's just no substitute for the real deal.

 

Revoze, I guarantee you that I will NOT “adjust” to fake engine sound. I will not buy a car that fakes its engine sound. Period. I simply won’t want one. It turns me off entirely. It would turn something that adds to my enjoyment of a car into something that I would actively despise — it would utterly ruin the driving experience for me. If all new cars fake the sound, I’ll just buy old cars.

 

Eagle7, well said.

 

if I remember the prior thread on this, no, the SQ doesn't have the intake microphone.
plenty of exhaust sound if you want it, like the GQ.

 

Very thankful the Giulia does not have a microphone. As relatively "sedate" as its engine (2.0L) sounds, it still has those sexy purrs and howls in D mode during up and downshifts.

 

The car has good sound insulation, so opening windows and/or sunroof is the best way (short of exhaust system upgrades) to enjoy its music.

 

Instead of "fake noise" they should have a setting to hear the un muffled sound (like in race mode on the QV), all the time.... kindof like the suspension setting on the DNA selector (QV and Q2 models, i think).

Ive seen many reviewers complain about windnoise. And while i like the sound of my TiSportQ2, i would have liked to hear more of the REAL(not through speakers) engine noise.

 

IMO, wind noise in Giulia is fake news. There is some road noise, but if you get on some new pavement (reference US-395 just south of Walker in the West Walker River Canyon) the car becomes unsettlingly quiet with no sense of speed at all. Even in a strong cross wind the only indication that I got of the wind was the car jerking sideways and of course trees next to the road bending.

Maybe with the windows down the wind noise is higher than other cars, I do not drive that way. Maybe there is some wind noise associated with a sunroof, I would not know.

 

Just to be clear, artificial noise is NOT a "feature" that the Giulia employs, correct?

 

Correct! I hope Alfa/Fiat/Chrysler are reading this — WE DON’T WANT FAKE ENGINE SOUND!!!

 

Hi guys

I'm newbie here. I just bought Giulia Veloce from 2018 and I noticed in equipment list that I have this famous engine sound enhancement system, so I started to dig in about that and I joined here. I can see also that both Veloce and Ti versions (in Europe) have it by default...

Do you know if there is a way to deactivate it and no side effects occurs?