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I’ve got a Q4 and I thought it would understeer a lot but it really feels like a RWD car. Only time I’ve gotten ESC intervene is in the rain.

It does launch pretty consistent on D, esp once I upgraded the tires to Firehawks. I went with a 255 square setup. Also, braking improved as well. Run flats just suck the performance out of this car.
 
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I’ve got a Q4 and I thought it would understeer a lot but it really feels like a RWD car. Only time I’ve gotten ESC intervene is in the rain.

It does launch pretty consistent on D, esp once I upgraded the tires to Firehawks. I went with a 255 square setup. Also, braking improved as well. Run flats just suck the performance out of this car.
19"x8.5"?
 
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I’ve got a Q4 and I thought it would understeer a lot but it really feels like a RWD car. Only time I’ve gotten ESC intervene is in the rain.
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under "normal" conditions, so most of the time, it IS RWD ;)
 
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Hey guys, I saw on the Italian forum a discussion that there are people who can enable RACE mode without losing the pedal maps. They are located in Italy, I contacted them and they confirmed to me that they can enable Race mode without losing the pedal maps but I live in Bulgaria so I won't be going to Italy just for that. So I guess it's possible to enable full Race mode with pedal maps and everything but we just don't know how. The guys are called Eng-Custom. They have a webpage and a Facebook page.

Any ideas on how we might figure out what they're doing? As far as I know, they own Leonardo and wiTECH and they're not using MES. But that's just from the discussion on the Italian forum and might be wrong.
 
Hey guys, I saw on the Italian forum a discussion that there are people who can enable RACE mode without losing the pedal maps. They are located in Italy, I contacted them and they confirmed to me that they can enable Race mode without losing the pedal maps but I live in Bulgaria so I won't be going to Italy just for that. So I guess it's possible to enable full Race mode with pedal maps and everything but we just don't know how. The guys are called Eng-Custom. They have a webpage and a Facebook page.

Any ideas on how we might figure out what they're doing? As far as I know, they own Leonardo and wiTECH and they're not using MES. But that's just from the discussion on the Italian forum and might be wrong.
They have a website, maybe one of our Italian speaking members could contact them to see if their solution can be exported in some form? I think @Alfissimo specializes in delivering European goodies to the USA market; I dunno about Bulgaria. Alternatively maybe @toby@eurocompulsion could license whatever it is that they are doing and add it to their tune? For making Race mod work right, I would even drive the 500 miles (one way) to San Diego if necessary.


When in race mode and the dash color goes from red to yellow, the tach on both sides of the speedometer supposed to be functional?
My car has only one tachometer. What are you asking about?
 
Im assuming the shift lights?
I think there was a general conclusion in this thread that the QV type shift indicators do not work on the 4 cylinder models.
What I really notice with race mode in my Q4 with PP:

Hard suspension keeps car flatter in turns.
Manual shifts are super fast.
Brake pedal effort is increased making modulation easier.
G meter shows acceleration values.

Stopping distance seems to be reduced.

Notable downsides include:
PCM always in N (all modes). Negatively affects max MPG for "highway cruising".
Temperature display not active in Race mode. Don't know when slowing down is advised as the temps drop on the mountain pass*.
Clock display not active in Race mode. How am I supposed to time my run??? A stopwatch function would be a big plus.

* There was fresh snow on Sonora Pass last Friday. One really needs to slow down before the road is that obviously hazardous.
 
I think there was a general conclusion in this thread that the QV type shift indicators do not work on the 4 cylinder models.
What I really notice with race mode in my Q4 with PP:

Hard suspension keeps car flatter in turns.
Manual shifts are super fast.
Brake pedal effort is increased making modulation easier.
G meter shows acceleration values.

Stopping distance seems to be reduced.

Notable downsides include:
PCM always in N (all modes). Negatively affects max MPG for "highway cruising".
Temperature display not active in Race mode. Don't know when slowing down is advised as the temps drop on the mountain pass*.
Clock display not active in Race mode. How am I supposed to time my run??? A stopwatch function would be a big plus.

* There was fresh snow on Sonora Pass last Friday. One really needs to slow down before the road is that obviously hazardous.
Interesting your hard dampers work correctly. Mine definitely do not. Rears are hard and fronts are soft. Handling is bizarre with it. Alfissimo / squadra has to flash the chassis control module
 
Interesting your hard dampers work correctly. Mine definitely do not. Rears are hard and fronts are soft. Handling is bizarre with it. Alfissimo / squadra has to flash the chassis control module
Yes, but I have already gotten the swap from Alfissimo. I seems to stiffen up A mode a bit as well.
 
I don’t feel any difference in suspension behavior/stiffness in race(Type3)/D/N/A. That was true even before I did any modifications. Tried different speeds, surfaces, Autocross- nothing. Regardless, handling and ride is great.
 
I don’t feel any difference in suspension behavior/stiffness in race(Type3)/D/N/A. That was true even before I did any modifications. Tried different speeds, surfaces, Autocross- nothing. Regardless, handling and ride is great.
Type 2 you can really feel the difference in race mode. The rears go real full stiff and fronts real full loose. Its immediately noticeable. Regular mode and type 3 mode i agree the difference between dynamic and soft is much less noticeable
 
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Unless people disagree, I'm going to update the original post with the info provided by @bhvrdr . It's laid out better than how I have it and is more complete. Seems accurate too, of course.

Type 3 (DNA/Sport)
A Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Active Efficiency
-Suspension - Soft
-ESC/TC - Regular
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Ok did some more controlled conditions testing today and this is what i found...



Type 3 (DNA/Sport)
A Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Active Efficiency
-Steering - Light
-Suspension - Soft
-ESC/TC - Regular

N Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Natural
-Steering - Light
-Suspension - Soft
-ESC/TC - Regular

D Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Dynamic
-Steering - Sport
-Suspension - Dynamic (pressing button gives Soft)
-ESC/TC - Dynamic

R Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Dynamic
-Steering - Sport
-Suspension - Dynamic (pressing button gives Soft)
-ESC/TC - Disabled (full donuts allowed)

Type 2 (DNA/Race)

A Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Active Efficiency
-Steering - Light
-Suspension - Soft
-ESC/TC - Regular

N Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Natural
-Steering - Light
-Suspension - Soft
-ESC/TC - Regular

D Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Dynamic
-Steering - Sport
-Suspension - Dynamic (pressing button gives Soft)
-ESC/TC - Dynamic

R Mode
- Engine - Natural
-Transmission - Dynamic
-Steering - Sport
-Suspension - Full Soft Front/ Full Stiff Rear (UNSTABLE) - (pressing button gives Dynamic aka "mid damper")
-ESC/TC - Disabled (full donuts allowed)

Let me know if this is what you all have found.
 
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