[ALFATECH]

I actually really like this feature, but everyone has their own reasons.
@ALFATECH, most FCA vehicles do have that option, not sure why the Alfa's don't, but I'm sure it could be put into a software update.


Anyways... It is possible to have it disabled. If you have a competent dealer nearby, they should be able to program it to stay in a fixed position.

They accidentally disabled it on my Giulia once when I took her in to have a bad passenger seat motor replaced (apparently they both run off the same seat control module or something?) and I immediately took her back in to have the feature re-enabled. After talking to one of the Techs, we discovered that it's pretty simple to do. I ended up taking my Stelvio in to have the feature disabled because I actually have passengers in the back seats sometimes and it's just not really necessary in an SUV.

I’ve never been asked to do it, but I have a Giulia in my bay right now so I’ll check on Wednesday if I remember.

 

[Scott555]

Several luxury sedans from different manufacturers have this feature and I use it constantly (also note the several posts from other forum members who use it constantly), so it is neither stupid nor dumb. That said, some means for disabling it for people who drive with the posture of speed racer, who are very tall, or (some impolite descriptions not stated) would be wise. I do not know if that is available in the other cars that have this feature; it is available in MY2019s and apparently a feature that can be installed in (most?) MY2018s.

Ohhh Lockem (Horns, I'm assuming?), I can see we'll be perpetual opposing forces on these forums. >


Let me clarify... Not allowing me to disable such a feature is both dumb and stupid. (asinine and ridiculous as well, for good measure)


If I was 50+, or childless, or so pampered that I needed to wait for a motorized seat to retract when I get out, to assist my egress.... or to wait for it to return to my position each time after ingress... I could totally see the awesome luxury and convenience that this option provides. My sincerest apologies to the many other forum members who use the option constantly. Wait, of course you use it constantly, it's not a choice! (unless you're manually reaching down and stopping the function each time). That's another predictable Lockem-ism, you make sure that everyone knows their complaint is invalid.



Regardless, it's not like the Giulia is some fitted vehicle that's difficult to get in/out of. Don't you have a 4C? How do you manage? :wink2:


Cheers either way.

 

[AlfaCrisis]

It's a menu item on the 2019 Stelvio that an Alfa Romeo salesperson claims a software update will add to my 2017 Giulia.

A-ha-ha-ha-ha...Alfa “giving” us a software update, you silly boy! I heard it will have a 50 hp power boost, ACP/AA functions and new maps too for 2017’s. Whoops, it’s a bit early for April Fools.

 

[Chipshot]

It's a menu item on the 2019 Stelvio that an Alfa Romeo salesperson claims a software update will add to my 2017 Giulia.

He didn’t happen to disclose when this alleged SW update would be available, and what hoops we’d have to jump through to get it???

A second salesman doubted such an update applied to my car. I'll check the next time it's in for service. The dealer always says it's current. A question for MacGeek?

 

[Chipshot]

A-ha-ha-ha-ha...Alfa “giving” us a software update, you silly boy! I heard it will have a 50 hp power boost, ACP/AA functions and new maps too for 2017’s. Whoops, it’s a bit early for April Fools.

How to put this nicely? The salesperson in question is someone from whom I receive information with a healthy dose of skepticism.

 

[lockem]

Ohhh Lockem (Horns, I'm assuming?), I can see we'll be perpetual opposing forces on these forums. >

Let me clarify... Not allowing me to disable such a feature is both dumb and stupid. (asinine and ridiculous as well, for good measure)

If I was 50+, or childless, or so pampered that I needed to wait for a motorized seat to retract when I get out, to assist my egress.... or to wait for it to return to my position each time after ingress... I could totally see the awesome luxury and convenience that this option provides. My sincerest apologies to the many other forum members who use the option constantly. Wait, of course you use it constantly, it's not a choice! (unless you're manually reaching down and stopping the function each time). That's another predictable Lockem-ism, you make sure that everyone knows their complaint is invalid.

Regardless, it's not like the Giulia is some fitted vehicle that's difficult to get in/out of. Don't you have a 4C? How do you manage? :wink2:

Cheers either way.

I am over 50 and childless but far from pampered. You wrote that the feature is dumb and stupid, which is not the case. Your clarification is reasonable to me and I think I did say that the ability to disable the feature would be good. I do not own a 4C. I did not have any trouble getting in or out of the 4Cs on display at the dealership. However, my hip jams against the steering wheel of Giulia hard when the seat and steering wheel are set for comfortable driving so the seat needs to run back for me to get out. I am clearly not alone with this as other forum members have posted that they use the seat back feature exactly the same way, and even Clarkson illustrated the issue on his current show (OK, Clarkson is both wider and taller than me, so maybe a bad example...). I have a seat memory position set for this as well, since sometimes I get out of the car while the engine is running. The automatic seat back is a convenience; I could live without it but I would rather not.

Even when my seat is back there is plenty of room in the rear seat for a passenger's feet.

 

[QtrItalian]

It undoubtedly can be coded out....either currently with standard software if it comes up on a menu or later once someone hacks the hexadecimal code like has been done on many BMWs. I personally don't like a motor whirring every day for two inches of travel with greased seat rails and dust being continually ground into the tracks but to each his/her own....

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[ttaidapos]

I am over 50 and childless but far from pampered. You wrote that the feature is dumb and stupid, which is not the case. Your clarification is reasonable to me and I think I did say that the ability to disable the feature would be good. I do not own a 4C. I did not have any trouble getting in or out of the 4Cs on display at the dealership. However, my hip jams against the steering wheel of Giulia hard when the seat and steering wheel are set for comfortable driving so the seat needs to run back for me to get out. I am clearly not alone with this as other forum members have posted that they use the seat back feature exactly the same way, and even Clarkson illustrated the issue on his current show (OK, Clarkson is both wider and taller than me, so maybe a bad example...). I have a seat memory position set for this as well, since sometimes I get out of the car while the engine is running. The automatic seat back is a convenience; I could live without it but I would rather not.

Even when my seat is back there is plenty of room in the rear seat for a passenger's feet.

There's another scenario called "using the sedan to actually carry passengers". On more than one occasion I simply forgot about the slide back and happen to crush a rear passenger's legs.

 

[ttaidapos]

It undoubtedly can be coded out....either currently with standard software if it comes up on a menu or later once someone hacks the hexadecimal code like has been done on many BMWs. I personally don't like a motor whirring every day for two inches of travel with greased seat rails and dust being continually ground into the tracks but to each his/her own....

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And to put all skepticism to bed, this is fixed with v72 or higher in the infotainment You do need the 2nd generation hardware behind the infotainment and does not apply to MY2017. Along with a whole bunch of other things that have been annoying, parking sensors off when in park, heated seats on remote start, etc. The problem is if your car doesn't get v72 from factory the dealer will not install it. Alfa needs to release it for your specific VIN. So grab a huge espresso and hang out until then.

 

[wingler]

And to put all skepticism to bed, this is fixed with v72 or higher in the infotainment Along with a whole bunch of other things that have been annoying. The problem is if your car doesn't get v72 from factory the dealer will not install it. Alfa needs to release it for your specific VIN. So grab a huge espresso and hang out until then.

Doesn’t apply to 2017 models.

 

[giovacchini]

Hello friends, I am a new Alfa Giulia Ti owner as of 4 days ago. What a beautiful car to drive! I am wondering if anyone knows how to disable the power seat from automatically sliding back when you exit or enter the car. This feature is meant to be enjoyable but I find it annoying. I could not find any reference to it in the owners manual. Any ideas out there? Thanks. :smile2:

Yes, I just picked my 2019 Ti Sport yesterday, it doesn't do that. Maybe they did away with that on my 2019's?

 

[wingler]

Yes, I just picked my 2019 Ti Sport yesterday, it doesn't do that. Maybe they did away with that on my 2019's?

I think you will find a setting on the Infotainment unit to enable/disable.

 

[AlfaCrisis]

How to put this nicely? The salesperson in question is someone from whom I receive information with a healthy dose of skepticism.

I’ve since learned that the salesmen are the least likely to know about these things. The Service Department is a decent source of data, but for us with 2017’s, the simple fact is that we have orphan software that is very unlikely to receive any further development resources unless/until something in it cost Alfa money.

 

[Chipshot]

I’ve since learned that the salesmen are the least likely to know about these things.

Agreed. Their lack of knowledge includes delivering a Stelvio with a refrigerant leak that could be heard inside the passenger cabin. "First time we've ever come across that". Uh-huh.

The Service Department is a decent source of data, but for us with 2017’s, the simple fact is that we have orphan software that is very unlikely to receive any further development resources unless/until something in it cost Alfa money.

My car is leased, and I anticipate replacing it with another Giulia (2019 or 2020) that will arrive from the factory ready-to-go with all the latest updates.

 

[Engi_Nerd]

I am personally surprised that not being able to turn this off has not been considered a safety issue for people with very young or very old passengers. I get that it's common in other vehicles, but not having the option to turn it off seems like it would leave AR open to liability if someone experienced even minor injury. It's operation only under certain conditions makes it even less intuitive for the consumer, as a tall primary driver might never even experience it until a shorter driver moved the seat. If I owned the vehicle, I would definitely code it off to save the mechanical wear, and for peace of mind with passengers.

 

[Chipshot]

Maybe power seats should have the same sort of safety mechanisms that power windows, sunroofs, and sliding doors have had for years to stop them when an obstacle is detected.

 

[lockem]

Maybe power seats should have the same sort of safety mechanisms that power windows, sunroofs, and sliding doors have had for years to stop them when an obstacle is detected.

The motor will stall if the seat encounters enough resistance. I tend to use the floor behind the front seats as a cargo area...

At best uncomfortable for someone's feet, at worst injurious.

I'm not sure if cycling the seat position regularly is good or bad. Many greases need to be "stirred" to prevent hardening. However, that exposed, greased turn screw sure looks like a wear issue trying to happen.

An alternative solution is to get some Sparco seats and figure out how to configure them. They apparently yield more rear seat room as well.

 

[ALFATECH]

I actually really like this feature, but everyone has their own reasons.
@ALFATECH, most FCA vehicles do have that option, not sure why the Alfa's don't, but I'm sure it could be put into a software update.


Anyways... It is possible to have it disabled. If you have a competent dealer nearby, they should be able to program it to stay in a fixed position.

They accidentally disabled it on my Giulia once when I took her in to have a bad passenger seat motor replaced (apparently they both run off the same seat control module or something?) and I immediately took her back in to have the feature re-enabled. After talking to one of the Techs, we discovered that it's pretty simple to do. I ended up taking my Stelvio in to have the feature disabled because I actually have passengers in the back seats sometimes and it's just not really necessary in an SUV.

I checked today on a 2017 and I didn’t see an option for it, so not sure how your dealer did it or what module they were in.

 

[beaups]

I actually really like this feature, but everyone has their own reasons.
@ALFATECH, most FCA vehicles do have that option, not sure why the Alfa's don't, but I'm sure it could be put into a software update.


Anyways... It is possible to have it disabled. If you have a competent dealer nearby, they should be able to program it to stay in a fixed position.

They accidentally disabled it on my Giulia once when I took her in to have a bad passenger seat motor replaced (apparently they both run off the same seat control module or something?) and I immediately took her back in to have the feature re-enabled. After talking to one of the Techs, we discovered that it's pretty simple to do. I ended up taking my Stelvio in to have the feature disabled because I actually have passengers in the back seats sometimes and it's just not really necessary in an SUV.

I checked today on a 2017 and I didn’t see an option for it, so not sure how your dealer did it or what module they were in.

My late '17 built '18 qv doesn't do this easy exit at all. And there's no menu for it in infotainment. Initially, I felt a little screwed, now I realize I got lucky.

 

[ALFATECH]

My late '17 built '18 qv doesn't do this easy exit at all. And there's no menu for it in infotainment. Initially, I felt a little screwed, now I realize I got lucky.

The last QV I was in didn’t do it, and it was a 17, early build. Maybe they don’t offer it on those cars, I’m not sure, but on this 2017 I checked every module I could think of and there was no option to disable it.