Here you go. My 2017 ti Q4. Bad pic but you get the jist.

 

Here you go. My 2017 ti Q4. Bad pic but you get the jist.

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What are the steps in summary to add AA and CarPlay to 2017's?

V2 radio electronics, new USB hub, change a few flags in programming (Witech is req'd or no?)

 

Witech is needed. New USB hub needed. I just know someone. It can be done though. I suggest waiting, my bet is Alfa implements this soon on all cars or at least an option to upgrade. I will try to give more info later when I have it.

 

Did anything need to be upgraded besides the usb port?

 

I mean, when you think about it, many of us would probably pay more than the average profit on these cars ( especially when you consider all the rebates required these days to get them out the door) for the upgrade.

 

I found this in another thread for the dual usb part.

USB Port 6QW48DX8AB | OEM Mopar Parts

USB Port 6QW48DX8AB

parts.lithiagrantspass.com

 

Damn that's expensive. They had one on eBay for 100 brand new a while back.


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not correct price, dealer is 107.00

 

Good to know! Thank you.

 

Has anyone tried the Android Auto Wireless?

xda-developers.com/wireless-android-auto-any-android-phone/

My Giulia Veloce doesn't have Android auto... But if this works, we don't need the "new USB hub".

 

Giulia doesn't support it.

 

Anyone happen to happen to have the part number for the ETM? Possibly looking at buying new so it can be coded to the car without having to unlock.

 

50553591

 

You need change 3 bytes !
You just do " CarPlay offline activation " with Witech in dealer?

 

Ah ok, no i can’t access to witech, in Italy they refuse to enable carplay as retrofit, you can only buy with car. When i ordered my car there was no carplay option buyable, but my car arrived with new ETM hardware, which support carplay.
I’m trying to enable it by myself with Multiecuscan

 

You need dealer to connect WITECH to make " CarPlay offline activation "
Without that you can't enable CarPlay

 

Ah ok, many thanks

 

But before you need change proxy
If you make " CarPlay offline activation " before change proxy can never be activated

 

That's what I did (activation procedure, before changing bytes) - way back in 2018, before people started "researching".

Is there any known way to "hard reset" the ETM, so I can try the activation again?

 

After much delay, here is the step by step process(with shiny new photos) to installing Apple CarPlay and Android Auto into a 2017 Giulia.

The vehicle can have the large or small screen set-up, but must have a new version radio installed. This must be used on a version 2.5 radio module, and the radio must have never had the CarPlay activation manually set to off(in WiTech). The center console new 2-usb port must be installed on the vehicle.

Needed scan tools:
A.) Multiscan ECU and generic compatible OBD dongle(or another scan tool which allows you to change the PROCSI in the BCM.
B.) WiTech 2.0(FCA scan tool) which is currently the only way to unlock the head unit for Android Auto/CarPlay use.

While using this method we will write the procsi to all modules using the WiTech which will be much easier than changing adapters with the Multiscan program. The BCM procsi can be written(with Multiscan) and radio and USB hub installed in vehicle, then driven to a friendly dealer(any FCA dealer should do) with access to WiTech 2.0 for the radio activation and module procsi write.





1.) Using Multiecuscan, select the vehicle, go to body and select CAN Setup / Procsi(or Proxi) alignment.

2.) Click adjustments on the top tab selctor and acknowledge the warning. Press CNTRL-ALT-C to bring up the PROCSI table.

3.) Change byte 157 to 31. Change byte 161 to 03. Change byte 163 to 1A. Change byte 174 to 02. Change 115 to 15.

4.) Hit OK, then hit execute. Click through any warnings and make sure system confirmed successful write to the BCM(should be the first module it writes to). After which it will attempt to write mode modules which you can continue if you'd like(using different CAN interface adapters Blue and Grey). All modules may not write successfully especially in loaded USDM cars. This is why I recommend crashing out of the program when it asks for the Blue Adapter then connecting to WiTech 2, which must be used regardless. It is critical that the body control module have the updated PROCSI before continuing. The vehicle can be driven at this time, however since the PROCSI values do not match, the odometer will blink.

5.) Using WiTech, perform a procsi realignment under the BCM. This takes the procsi just written to the BCM and applies it to all other modules. As prompted make sure the radio is ON. Do not run restore vehicle configuration as this will restore all PROCSI settings back to factory specification.

6.) After the PROCSI is finished, clear codes and go to the ETM module - miscellaneous functions. Click on CarPlay - Option offline activation.

7.) Perform the process and make sure the system is set to ON.

8.)Turn off the vehicle and remove Witech 2 Pod Dongle. Lock doors. Allow vehicle to set for five minutes. This will allow radio to power down and allow for AA/CarPlay to work when radio powers back up. Reconnect Witech and if the vehicle has Sirius/XM perform SDARS synch under ETM.

9.) If ABS warnings are present after this procedure, go into ABS Miscellaneous functions and run Control Unit Reprogramming. Follow the process closely, clear codes from all modules and check for AA/CarPlay operation.

Hopefully this is a help and allows some enhanced functionality to older vehicles. Let me know if I missed anything and I will answer any questions when I can!

 

and the radio must have never had the CarPlay activation manually set to off(in WiTech).

This could affect a couple of us who have had new radio units installed to fix a voice command navigation issue - im guessing they may have performed this when new units were installed in older cars
i know they had to do a bit of a process just to get the new radio to talk to the CAN

 

This is amazing! Thank you! When you say new radio 2.5 module you mean not the one that originally came in the 2017 Guilias? So the USB hub needs to be added as well as a new radio module?

 

There are a lot of software versions in the many radios installed in Giulias. The best guideline is that the early versions of the radio that came with the car will have software version numbers that end in: .020, .043, .059 and some in between. If you perform this on one of those units it will all work until you get to the Carplay activation in WiTech 2, in which the option will simply not be in the menu. This is because hardware doesn't support it.

The USB port in question is the one inside the center console storage box. The new USB port also has to be installed, I've also tried this without the port, and even though the radio shows a menu for Android Auto, plugging your phone into any of the ports will only result in a deep and profound sadness. The new media port has two USB ports in it as opposed to one-port model originally on the 2017 and early 2018 models.

 

@Beta Romeo - super detailed manual.
I have a few questions though:
1.you mentioned radio gen 2.5 - what do you mean? I guess you just need radio gen2 with firmware updated to at least MV056.... (of course better MV085 which is also available)?
2.you mentioned not to complete proxi in MES, but instead do it in Witech later. I guess it is OK also to complete in MES, and in Witech only do Carplay option activation?
3.My car came from factory with AA/ACP, as fara as I remember I have 00 in byte 174 - where it came from? I will check later what are my other bytes to confirm/compare setup for OEM car.

In general asking as 2 of my friends are interested in the topic and they account on me for help there.

 

So I was one of the lucky ones. My 17 had so many radio issues they replaced it this week with the newer version, 085 is what I have currently. And oh boy what a difference! I'm not 100% sure if it any changes were ever made to the "Carplay Activation Offline" I'm currently trying to find someone with WiTech access to be able to help me out and I'll report back!

 

Thats the way to do it.

 

Hmmm now there's a thought, and something I would be fully willing to do if I knew for sure that it wasn't already deactivated lol.

where are you located?

 

where are you located?

I live in Milwaukee, WI.

 

This is awesome but I guess I am out of luck. I am not super concerned...sort of a nice to have for me but still....thanks for the effort!

 

Hello, I have just found this thread, which finally seems to give me some hopes that Apple CarPlay can be installed in my 2017 Giulia (VIN ZARFAEEN3H755****). However the procedure is rather technically involved and requires tools I do not possess. Is there anyone who can perform the procedure and is located in (or reasonably close to) Southern California? San Diego would be best, but I can travel a reasonable distance.
Thank you!

 

You have to have the Multiscan to edit the Procsi values. I've never seen the ability to actually edit the Procsi with the Witech. But, yes, Multiscan works with almost any cheap-o pod and is a pretty great program overall.

 

Hey Beta Romeo.. I scheduled a “service” on Tuesday!

 

Copy that - much appreciated
If unit is older - what’s the ease of replacing unit? ( if in previously discussed in thread, my apologies, just direct me to page) thanks

 

It's above the driver's left foot. Here is a PDF.

 

How long before this thread changes to "Updating my 2017 system to the touch screen system from 2020+ models"? How much harder could it be?

 

A lot, because the firmware in al the modules the infotainment needs to communicate with is probably incompatible

 

Isn't that kind of the same issue with upgrading 2017's to have AA, ACP? Yeah, I assumed certain modules would have to be updated or possibly replaced including the HU of course.

 

no... re the 2017 and AA/ACP, that's actually only a problem internal to the HU, in theory fixed with a new 2018/2019 HU. The 2020 model infotainment will have a lot of new functionalities which involve assumed new functions present in external modules....

 

Or you could just do this (Alfa Romeo Android Screen)

Features:
OS: Android 7.1 system
Languages: Multi-Country Languages
Function: Explorer; Full-Screen GPS; Air conditioning control; Rearview; Bluetooth; Split Screen; Phone Link; 3D Map View, Calculator, Calendar, Color Screen,
Handwriting Recognition, JPEG Image Viewer, Live Map Display, USB, Touch Screen Interface, Wireless/Bluetooth, wifi including, 3G Optional, Mirror link:
support both Android and iPhone, 2-Way Radio, Android Radio, Auxiliary Input, Bluetooth Ready, Lifetime Map Updates, MP3 Player, Real-Time Traffic,
Steering Wheel Control, ...

 

Aside of HU, the display itself woudl need to be replaced, possibly cabling to the display. some firmwares updated? on new components that woudl cost a lot - old components cost of HU + display was around $2500

 

Has anyone in Australia successfully done this upgrade ?

 

Just a few notes, the dual hub needs to be compatible with AA/ACP (not just dual), there are also single compatible (A lot of cars in EU with single are factory equipped with AA/ACP), in other hand before AA/ACP there were single and duals as well but won't work with AA/ACP.
I think you need to set byte 115 (or proper selection of USB hub from listed settings which does the same) accordingly to if you have single or dual with AA/ACP function.
You need to set a few other bytes in proxi hex editor (CTRL+ALT+C) as per instructions on forum (bytes 115, 157, 161, 163 and some say 174 but the last one in my factory equipped car with AA/ACP was 0 so I do not think this is really mandatory). Once you have these, run proxi.

@Beta Romeo, why are you recommending crashing Proxi on last adapter? Does it bring any value or saving only 2 minutes of proxi reprogramming but potentially leaves car with flashing odometer?

My factory AA/ACP Giulia config is following:
115 15(dual USB),
157 31 I know guy who has Stelvio got it B1 whatever that MSB bit change changes
161 03
163 02 here on forum people are using 1A - again looks like 2 bit change whatever it changes
174 00 here on forum people are using 02 - one bit change, again no clue what it is for

 

@Beta Romeo, why are you recommending crashing Proxi on last adapter? Does it bring any value or saving only 2 minutes of proxi reprogramming but potentially leaves car with flashing odometer?


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@epsonix With high spec USDM cars, MES successfully proxi's about 2/3 of the modules. The other ones fail. I think MES is much more compatible with Euro spec vehicles. I have succefully proxi'd all modules with MES, but it took multiple tries and a few battery disconnects for successful completion. My car has AWD, AAC, AMP, Limited slip and Adjustable Dampers... to proxi with MES is a half hour+ hit and miss process. With a base model car it is a lot easier. The fact being that you need WiTech present to complete the process regardless, it seems easier to hit procsi when WiTech is hooked up.