[JimV]

That interior is terrible.

 

[Papa Gallo]

That interior is terrible.

ghastly ambience
all that screen real estate and useless "information" at their disposal and he still needs an after market speedo whacked under his nose for the most basic of automotive function

which, by all logic, is the one thing you dont need during a record speed attempt - a speedometer !!!

- the irony and the stupidity all in one 7 minute clip

 

[Papa Gallo]

i thought this guy was meant to be clever

yeah, suk on it, Battery Boy

 

[JimV]

He is, in that he's making a ton of money and he's putting out a crap car that sells like crazy . I mean it has its merits and all but ugh.

 

[Alfa Philly]

He is rich. But I think he made a mistake when he decided to make the cars instead of license the tech to all the big car companies and let them deal with production head aches. He would be twice as rich and extremely profitable

 

[Papa Gallo]

sounds like the stoner guy sitting at the bar, sucking on a reefer, boasting that he owns a car company and a fleet of rocket ships,

Mexican druglord walks in (the guy that sold him the dope) ... and says ... "Ill toss you for it"

 

[Avnyc11]

So the hot new Tesla still slower than the 5 year old qv.
F*ck EVs lol

 

[Slumdog]

Braking performance and tire choice limited this car. Im happy its slower than our QV officially but the QV had corsa tires and carbon brakes!!!

 

[Papa Gallo]

Braking performance and tire choice limited this car. Im happy its slower than our QV officially but the QV had corsa tires and carbon brakes!!!

had an entire performance makeover - including an active spoiler to assist its dinosaur like braking - and still slower than our Qs

2022 Tesla Model S Plaid with ‘active aero’ laps Nurburgring

A special-edition version of the Tesla Model S Plaid has returned to Germany’s Nurburgring race-track-turned-test-track with active aerodynamic aids, sticky ‘semi-slick’ tyres, and race-bred carbon-ceramic brakes.

 

[Papa Gallo]

... barely able to beat a french hatchback

Watch Renault Mégane R.S. Trophy-R Set New FWD Nürburgring Record

 

[woodgod68]

History repeats itself ?

“There’s nothing the matter with me. It’s you! You’re crazy if you think this fool contraption you’ve been wasting your time on will ever displace the horse.”

Get A Horse! America’s Skepticism Toward the First Automobiles | The Saturday Evening Post

The inventor who claimed the first U.S. car ever sold recalls the birth of the industry and the general public skepticism about automobiles.

www.saturdayeveningpost.com

One day ICE cars will be like todays horse wagons, only used for nostalgia..

 

[lockem]

History repeats itself ?

“There’s nothing the matter with me. It’s you! You’re crazy if you think this fool contraption you’ve been wasting your time on will ever displace the horse.”

Get A Horse! America’s Skepticism Toward the First Automobiles | The Saturday Evening Post

The inventor who claimed the first U.S. car ever sold recalls the birth of the industry and the general public skepticism about automobiles.

www.saturdayeveningpost.com

One day ICE cars will be like todays horse wagons, only used for nostalgia..

OR after the AI apocalypse we will be back to horses.

In the early days ICE had a tendency to blow up and/or break frequently down at random. I was told that the owners manual for a Stutz Bearcat included instructions for how to make and install replacement bottom end bearings while on the road. Something about needing tin snips and a tin can. It was pretty much the 1930s (40 years after the start) before you could expect to be able to drive cross-country without calamity and it was the (early) 1920s (30 years from the start) before cars really were substantially displacing horses. Tesla started selling cars 18 year ago, so if history repeats itself we should expect electric cars to start to become better than ICEs in the 2034-2044 time frame; years after politicians have mandated that only electric cars will be available to buy.

 

[JimV]

Yes , but when will Tesla's stop being ugly

 

[Giuliano]

History repeats itself ?

“There’s nothing the matter with me. It’s you! You’re crazy if you think this fool contraption you’ve been wasting your time on will ever displace the horse.”

Get A Horse! America’s Skepticism Toward the First Automobiles | The Saturday Evening Post

The inventor who claimed the first U.S. car ever sold recalls the birth of the industry and the general public skepticism about automobiles.

www.saturdayeveningpost.com

One day ICE cars will be like todays horse wagons, only used for nostalgia..

Too late. There will be no time for that. The world will end in 12 years, based on the assessment of some current US leaders.

 

[Chipshot]

Yes , but when will Tesla's stop being ugly

I’m guessing Elon prefers to think of them as “distinctive”.

Tesla owners are even more defensive about their cars than Alfa owners, and they seem to need to prove themselves in traffic frequently.

 

[C.Q4]

Add on charging time to get the car back home and that quickly blows out to 1 hour 7 minutes 35 seconds

There are currently 6 Supercharger locations within 40 miles of the Nurburgring. The car finished the lap with 57% charge (over 200 miles of range). If they need to stop to get home, a charge to 80% takes about 15 minutes. I get your overall point, but infrastructure exists and the time is minimal.

That interior is terrible.

This is so clean and modern.

Plaid with CF:

Or non-Plaid gets Wood trim:

He is rich. But I think he made a mistake when he decided to make the cars instead of license the tech to all the big car companies and let them deal with production head aches. He would be twice as rich and extremely profitable

Well, he is the richest person in the world. He has on many occasions offered to license tech to legacy OEMs. I believe they are in discussions (not sure to what degree). Their CCS-supercharger network will be open to other manufacturers soon. They also made their patents open source in the beginning.

Producing the cars, creating the charging network, and Elon/the brand is the only reason why they are so popular and making such an impact on the industry. Tesla is a household name and a product people strive for (especially kids, they love Tesla and that will be bad for future ICE sales).

No one cares about Magna, Bosch, ZF, Delphi, etc. Suppliers do not move the needle. They are the ghostwriters for OEMs and their tech can be used, or squashed.

So the hot new Tesla still slower than the 5 year old qv.
F*ck EVs lol

Come on, they aren't in the same class. Make a QV 5,000 lbs and see how it does. It's not a fair comparison. They both have fast times for what they are.

I hope the STLA-Large QV is quicker...

 

[beaups]

There are currently 6 Supercharger locations within 40 miles of the Nurburgring. The car finished the lap with 57% charge (over 200 miles of range). If they need to stop to get home, a charge to 80% takes about 15 minutes. I get your overall point, but infrastructure exists and the time is minimal.


This is so clean and modern.

Plaid with CF:
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Or non-Plaid gets Wood trim:
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Well, he is the richest person in the world. He has on many occasions offered to license tech to legacy OEMs. I believe they are in discussions (not sure to what degree). Their CCS-supercharger network will be open to other manufacturers soon. They also made their patents open source in the beginning.

Producing the cars, creating the charging network, and Elon/the brand is the only reason why they are so popular and making such an impact on the industry. Tesla is a household name and a product people strive for (especially kids, they love Tesla and that will be bad for future ICE sales).

No one cares about Magna, Bosch, ZF, Delphi, etc. Suppliers do not move the needle. They are the ghostwriters for OEMs and their tech can be used, or squashed.

Your "clean and modern" is many others' (including mine) fugly.

Come on, they aren't in the same class. Make a QV 5,000 lbs and see how it does. It's not a fair comparison. They both have fast times for what they are.

That's sort of the point. The main reason it's such a porker is the battery weight. Also of note is it's 6 seconds slower than the rather plump M5 CS that has ~40% less power.

 

[C.Q4]

Your "clean and modern" is many others' (including mine) fugly.

That's sort of the point. The main reason it's such a porker is the battery weight. Also of note is it's 6 seconds slower than the rather plump M5 CS that has ~40% less power.

Very strange. Clean lines, cohesive design, and well used colors/materials, yet it is fugly? I think you're just upset about it being an EV.

This is ugly...

Of course the battery is the issue. That is the nature of the beast. EVs have batteries that are heavy and do not get lighter as they are used (unlike a gas tank).

M5 CS is about 600 lbs lighter. Again, not the same class.

 

[Papa Gallo]

There are currently 6 Supercharger locations within 40 miles of the Nurburgring. The car finished the lap with 57% charge (over 200 miles of range). If they need to stop to get home, a charge to 80% takes about 15 minutes. I get your overall point, but infrastructure exists and the time is minimal.

that doesnt sound as funny as mine -

i guess that is part of the attraction to some

 

[Papa Gallo]

This is so clean and modern.

Plaid with CF:

if you want my opinion, it would be like driving a doctors surgery