[riparke]

I ordered the part below and will try it out.
This must be what we need.
time delay timer (momentary, on/off cycle that could be set from .15 sec to many hours,...)
Will post instructions and video once I get it done.

If ever you find the pictures of the switch pin out and intructions to access the light switch in the meantime, it will be greatly appreciated.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00PD65UGA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this with a relay might work, a momentary pulse- relay closes (connecting to ground)- pulse is over-relay opens

 

[appolon]

alright guys,
did a simple test:
while you hit the engine start button on the steering wheel and the starter motor turns, just hit the s/s button. the little light stays on and s/s disengages.
therefore,
a simple 12v automotive relay will do the trick!:

85= ground
86= 12v+ from starter wire
30= ground
87= pin#8 on s/s switch.

switch will still be functional in case you'd like to activate start/stop feature during your drive.

 

[Verrilli]

Appolon,
Sounds good if you can locate the +12 from the starter. Other solutions only require local signals.

 

[Alwaysdutch]

I don't have a problem with the pushing the button as we have it now, which I do pretty much daily, but what annoys me the most is that when the system is engaged and you stop in your driveway, you don't get a chance to put the trans in park. Engine shuts off, click on park, engine turns, than shut-off

At a minimum, a delay of a second or two would be nice

 

[Sinan_Awad]

Hey guys, considering buying a Stelvio, and the s/s system is one of the most annoying things I experienced in it, especially when moving from dynamic to natural it reenables itself! Would an OBD register approach make sense? Has anyone tried it?

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[Chipshot]

I don't have a problem with the pushing the button as we have it now, which I do pretty much daily, but what annoys me the most is that when the system is engaged and you stop in your driveway, you don't get a chance to put the trans in park. Engine shuts off, click on park, engine turns, than shut-off

At a minimum, a delay of a second or two would be nice

Concur 100%. Maybe even 2 or 3 seconds of delay?

 

[jwdm]

Hey guys, considering buying a Stelvio, and the s/s system is one of the most annoying things I experienced in it, especially when moving from dynamic to natural it reenables itself! Would an OBD register approach make sense? Has anyone tried it?

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There is an easy solution - stay in dynamic mode.

I have never noticed this happening in the rare times I switch to N in My Giulia QV. I just tried it sitting in the driveway and moving to N mode did not turn off the start/stop light on the switch.

Jeff

 

[Sinan_Awad]

Interesting. In the Stelvio everytime moving from N to D it reactivates the S/S. Also when switching on the car after leaving it on Dynamic it also reactivates it. Maybe the case with the Giulia is different. On another note I really loved the Guilia, the interior finish is way superior to Stelvio, but I need an SUV, so Giulia is out of the question unfortunately..

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[jwq2]

Interesting. In the Stelvio everytime moving from N to D it reactivates the S/S. Also when switching on the car after leaving it on Dynamic it also reactivates it.

I think that's conform the Giulia. Switching off S/S is not permanent, every time you start the car the S/S is re-enabled till you switch it off again (for the current trip). That's what makes it anoying, it does not remember the last setting.

 

[riparke]

alright guys,
did a simple test:
while you hit the engine start button on the steering wheel and the starter motor turns, just hit the s/s button. the little light stays on and s/s disengages.
therefore,
a simple 12v automotive relay will do the trick!:

85= ground
86= 12v+ from starter wire
30= ground
87= pin#8 on s/s switch.

switch will still be functional in case you'd like to activate start/stop feature during your drive.

I agree since starter 12v is temporary, you won't get error for stuck SS switch.

 

[riparke]

Since the engine computer is in the engine bay, you would probably have to tap the starter and mount relay in engine bay and run a wire to pin 8 on the SS switch. Also hide the wiring, but most likely if found would void warranty.

 

[appolon]

Since the engine computer is in the engine bay, you would probably have to tap the starter and mount relay in engine bay and run a wire to pin 8 on the SS switch. Also hide the wiring, but most likely if found would void warranty.

No, the starter wire runs down the steering column in a harness.
Must be a brown wire +12v.

 

[appolon]

I agree since starter 12v is temporary, you won't get error for stuck SS switch.

The only drawback with the solution that I am proposing is:
If you decide to enable S/S feature (for some reason.....),
every time the car starts the feature is disabled.

 

[Italcars]

The only fault i have in my QV is that the Stop Start function does not work but i am not complaining..

 

[weppler]

The only fault i have in my QV is that the Stop Start function does not work but i am not complaining..

Auto Stop/Start works only occasionally for me.
No error codes are thrown???

 

[Dr. Klopek]

Auto Stop/Start works only occasionally for me.
No error codes are thrown???

It does not work if your AC is working to get to the desired temperature, and I believe it does not work if you have your seatbelt off, or if your battery is low. There are a couple more parameters but I forget them.

 

[weppler]

re Auto Stop/Start...as far as I can tell, all appropriate conditions are met (as listed in the UM), but still mostly inoperative.
didn't work Sunday; did Saturday; didn't Tuesday-Friday...
Service for headlight washer issue and more last week showed no faults.
Did work on the trip to service (Monday); didn't on return (later same day)...

Service guy said " don't worry; be happy".

 

[GAPF1]

In my opinion, this 'feature' is not only annoying, but could prove to be dangerous.

Earlier this week, starting my commute to work, I came to a stop at a junction from a residential street, out on to a major street. I'd angled the car slightly, to make the right turn. I was looking to my left to see if the street was clear. At the moment that I decided it was safe to pull out, the engine cut out, via the Stop/Start feature. The steering went heavy, as expected when the engine is turned off, and tried to center slightly! As I lifted my foot off the brake, the engine started up, and I was able to pull out. This process seemed unsettling, as the steering wheel jerked slightly, right when I was ready to pull out onto a major street.

 

[ARGtiAWD]

Is the S/S service tied to a specific fuse? If so just pulling that fuse would defeat it, right?

 

[Chipshot]

I'm not sure why pushing the stop/start defeat button is any more difficult than pushing the button on the steering wheel that brings the engine to life.