momentary ground out will not be an issue,
The device I ordered is an actual relay that can hold upto 5A of current.
unless there's more than just ground... CANBUS
will post results.
Has anybody removed the switch to see ?
what's the easiest way without damaging any clips?

 

alright guys,
did a simple test:
while you hit the engine start button on the steering wheel and the starter motor turns, just hit the s/s button. the little light stays on and s/s disengages.
therefore,
a simple 12v automotive relay will do the trick!:

85= ground
86= 12v+ from starter wire
30= ground
87= pin#8 on s/s switch.

switch will still be functional in case you'd like to activate start/stop feature during your drive.

 

I agree since starter 12v is temporary, you won't get error for stuck SS switch.

 

Appolon,
Sounds good if you can locate the +12 from the starter. Other solutions only require local signals.

 

I don't have a problem with the pushing the button as we have it now, which I do pretty much daily, but what annoys me the most is that when the system is engaged and you stop in your driveway, you don't get a chance to put the trans in park. Engine shuts off, click on park, engine turns, than shut-off

At a minimum, a delay of a second or two would be nice

 

Concur 100%. Maybe even 2 or 3 seconds of delay?

 

Hey guys, considering buying a Stelvio, and the s/s system is one of the most annoying things I experienced in it, especially when moving from dynamic to natural it reenables itself! Would an OBD register approach make sense? Has anyone tried it?

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There is an easy solution - stay in dynamic mode.

I have never noticed this happening in the rare times I switch to N in My Giulia QV. I just tried it sitting in the driveway and moving to N mode did not turn off the start/stop light on the switch.

Jeff

 

Interesting. In the Stelvio everytime moving from N to D it reactivates the S/S. Also when switching on the car after leaving it on Dynamic it also reactivates it. Maybe the case with the Giulia is different. On another note I really loved the Guilia, the interior finish is way superior to Stelvio, but I need an SUV, so Giulia is out of the question unfortunately..

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Interesting. In the Stelvio everytime moving from N to D it reactivates the S/S. Also when switching on the car after leaving it on Dynamic it also reactivates it.

I think that's conform the Giulia. Switching off S/S is not permanent, every time you start the car the S/S is re-enabled till you switch it off again (for the current trip). That's what makes it anoying, it does not remember the last setting.

 

Since the engine computer is in the engine bay, you would probably have to tap the starter and mount relay in engine bay and run a wire to pin 8 on the SS switch. Also hide the wiring, but most likely if found would void warranty.

 

No, the starter wire runs down the steering column in a harness.
Must be a brown wire +12v.

 

The only fault i have in my QV is that the Stop Start function does not work but i am not complaining..

 

Auto Stop/Start works only occasionally for me.
No error codes are thrown???

 

re Auto Stop/Start...as far as I can tell, all appropriate conditions are met (as listed in the UM), but still mostly inoperative.
didn't work Sunday; did Saturday; didn't Tuesday-Friday...
Service for headlight washer issue and more last week showed no faults.
Did work on the trip to service (Monday); didn't on return (later same day)...

Service guy said " don't worry; be happy".

 

In my opinion, this 'feature' is not only annoying, but could prove to be dangerous.

Earlier this week, starting my commute to work, I came to a stop at a junction from a residential street, out on to a major street. I'd angled the car slightly, to make the right turn. I was looking to my left to see if the street was clear. At the moment that I decided it was safe to pull out, the engine cut out, via the Stop/Start feature. The steering went heavy, as expected when the engine is turned off, and tried to center slightly! As I lifted my foot off the brake, the engine started up, and I was able to pull out. This process seemed unsettling, as the steering wheel jerked slightly, right when I was ready to pull out onto a major street.

 

Is the S/S service tied to a specific fuse? If so just pulling that fuse would defeat it, right?

 

I'm not sure why pushing the stop/start defeat button is any more difficult than pushing the button on the steering wheel that brings the engine to life.

 

GAPF!.
No different to my wife's Audi A3. It cuts out before you have come to a complete stop. Steering and brakes are hard to operate.
Not sure if this can be rectified, i will inquire at the 1st service but it is a little off putting and could also be a little dangerous.
I have posted this because if anything doesn't operate 100% on an Alfa it becomes such a big issue however if it happens to most other car brands its acceptable.

 

@Italcars, sorry to change topic but I just saw you have a Bora. Very cool car! My Dad had a 1970 Ghibli spider that he bought new at the factory. The sound was magnificent. Every drive was a special event, even as a passenger. I imagine the Bora is similar.

 

Verrilli.
The Bora is a great car to drive but i have had it off the road for almost 4 years doing a complete restoration. Finally got some color on it last week.

 

Cool color. I know Maserati had some interesting choices. Good luck with your project!

 

I just picked up a Ford Escape company car to use for a while - it also has auto start/stop that defaults back to on every time you start it.
You can disable it, but it comes right back on as well.
BMW may be one of the few that allow you to keep your last setting.

I do enjoy that Alfa (for now) allows you to manipulate all the setting in the infotainment/GPS even when you are moving.
Most all cars lock you (or your passenger) out as soon as you start rolling.

 

ok. i figured out how to keep this system off every time without having to push the button. i accidently left the passenger's side of the hood unlatched when closing it yesterday. i didnt realize it til this afternoon. the whole time it was unlatched, the stop start unavailable message appeared on my cluster and the start stop never came on. mid day today i realized it was unlatched and pushed it down. after that the start stop started working again. tested my theory in a parking lot and i was right. having one side of he hood unlatched disables the system. i'm not suggesting that you drive around with your hood unlatched but im sure the switch on the latch can be either unplugged or grounded depending on how the circuit works. as long as you dont mind the warning message coming on every time you drive the car, this should work.

 

Not sure if that will affect your car alarm .....

 

looks lik MultiECUscan supports the Giulia - 2.0 and 2.9L

 

yes I have multiECUscan, it will reset the oil counter, when I get home next week I'll see about start and stop. I purchased a license and their OBD interface for oil changes in the future after the first free one (still debating if I'll have the dealer do it, when I purchased a oil filter from them they were going to sell me mobil one oil that did not meet specs)

 

While you are investigating your multiECUscan capabilities, would you take the time to see if it is possible to disable or adjust auto headlight on-off so that it is not turning on the headlights with the slightest provocation?

 

at the moment, support for the giulia with MultEcuScan (MES) is limited, it's a work in progress
You can download it and use it in simulator mode, to see what's possible.

 

Hopefully eventually there will be a way to have the start / stop completely off when you start the car without having to press the button.

Thanks

 

Patiently awaiting!

 

I just picked my QV up last night and was surprised when the car did not turn off when stopped in any mode. Note I am not complaining just surprised.

 

Don’t worry, it will start working soon. Mine didn’t function the first 2 days I owned mine. Now it works ALL THE TIME!

 

Bummer.

 

It has to do with batter charge level, outside air / inside air temp, and other conditions. Once it’s happy with everything it will stop ✋