Though I have not had even one issue with my Alfa, I might want to get in on the fun....use the proceeds for my 8c. ?

 

Except a successful class action suit forcing Alfa to pay out tons of money might jeopardize their entire north American comeback and then no one gets an 8C when they have to leave the market again.

I'm not saying there's not legitimate concern here and that Alfa certainly needs to be dealing with these issues when they pop up, I'm just tired of how people think the only way to address issues is to start suing people. It's even stated in the OP that Alfa is already paying out money and handing out new cars. What more could you possibly want?

 

Just because they are paying out money and giving new cars doesn't mean they are fixing the issue, many people are having the issues again with their new cars. I have tried to address the issue in many other ways, but it doesn't seem to be working. At the time of writing this reply, I have called Alfa Romeo 5 times trying to escalate my case. I am repeatedly told that I will get a call back from a supervisor, but to this day, I haven't even received one. I am all for the idea of trying to fix things without having to sue someone. Thats just better for everyone. But at this point they really aren't taking it seriously enough.

 

What does "unless they are willing to work with us" mean?

You claim that Alfa "aren't actively fixing it", BUT you have spoken to a few people who have had their cars replaced? Isn't this "fixing it"? Sounds like a solution to me.

The owners were sufficiently confident and satisfied that they accepted new Alfas as the solution to the problem? Sounds like Alfa worked with them and that they "feel safe" in their new Giulia's.

Nobody who can afford a Giulia would accept just $1,200 as "hush money".

 

I don't see replacing the car as an active fix. People who have gotten replaced cars are having the same issue over again with their new cars. Even if Alfa were to offer me a new car right now, I would not be ok with that. I want to know whats wrong in the first place.

 

For those who have had the issue with the car stalling, contact me. 512-983-3339 or pradeep@austindroneworks.com

I have started to gather a group of people who has also had the same issue. I plan on being the class head for a class action lawsuit against Alfa Romeo concerning the matter (unless Alfa Romeo is willing to work with us). Would you like to take part as well?

All that I would need is that you write me a descriptive email regarding what happen to your car, and talk about how you don't feel safe driving that car. I will not disclose the names or any identifiable information about anyone who participates.

From the research that I have gathered, Alfa is already aware of the problem but they aren't actively fixing it. I have spoken to a few people who have had their cars replaced for the same issue. They even received $1200 for the "inconvenience" (hush money).

What does "unless they are willing to work with us" mean?

You claim that Alfa "aren't actively fixing it", BUT you have spoken to a few people who have had their cars replaced? Isn't this a solution to these owners' problems?

And the owners were sufficiently confident and satisfied that they accepted new Alfas as the solution to the problem? Sounds like Alfa worked with them and that they "feel safe" in their new Giulia's.

Nobody who can afford a Giulia would accept just $1,200 as "hush money".

Very well said!

 

I can’t believe half my family spent decades in prison for conspiracy and racketeering but when a lawyer conspires and bribes people it’s called class action suits. Smh. God bless America.

 

I would not advise that anyone send any private information to this individual. Class action lawsuits are run by law firms, not by individuals. My sense is that this person may use this information to bully Alfa into replacing his vehicle.

OP, you should work to lemon law your vehicle if you are having issues, or you should speak with a lawyer to start a class action lawsuit if you feel this is what you'd like to do. There are plenty of stories regarding this issue all over these forums.

 

I have already spoken with a few lawyers about this. I may have not made that clear. I am 100% aware that class action law suits are run by law firms, but I was told to get any information that I could find about other people having the issues as well. You are correct in that nobody should send me personal information. I just need a description of what happened. I don’t need your name of any other personal info.

 

1. You posted what dealership you took your car to and your license plate with your name - Pradeep
2. You posted a you tube video of driving through water
3. You posted how you hope you get the same compensation of a “new” car like your friend got after you are almost expired for Lemon Law.
4. You can bring that public information to the attention of your dealership that might want to give AR a heads up on your EU tuning and mods that you brought back to factory spec because you planned to sell it. Hmmm. I guess you figured lemon and class action (or they fixed your car) are a way to get $1200 is your option. How about those Mods you took off caused your problem??????
5. Good luck getting a lawyer that will pony up pro bono except for your friends wife who is a lawyer.

You know. The whole semi thing and posting it on you tube smells like extortion. Oh that is how you make money a little advertisement. Sorry to be cynical but I wouldn’t dial that number because it probably costs money to call.

I just got my Ti a few weeks ago and I gotta say if this is what the forum is for I think I will go enjoy my car and say good luck on your Class Action Pradeep. You want something for nothing and you want the same deal with a new car because in a few months your car is two years old. Too bad you might have to be like everyone else and buy or lease a new car instead of coming up with this one.

 

Thank you for completely trashing every thing that I had to say. This just gives me an even better opportunity to further explain myself. In response to your one sided childish allegations, here's what I have to say.
1) Yes I did post what dealership I go to, and my license plate, I don't see the big problem there.
2) The video of the car being driven through water is sped up by 2.4x. All the shots in that video are sped up between 1.8x and 4.8x. That said, when it rains hard, that road is the only way for me to get to where I need to go. There are plenty of people with cars like m3's, c63 and many other nice cars that do the same thing. the water is only about 2-3 inches deep, if that harms the car then thats a whole different issue on its own. I myself drive my Tesla model x, Mercedes slk 350 and many other cars through there all the time and I don't see any of them having issues like this.
3) As I said above, at after discussing with people who have gotten replacement cars, that still isn't fixing the problem. At the current moment, a replacement car is not what I am looking for. Even if I were offered a replacement car, I still want to know what is wrong in the first place.
4) If you think the mods were the cause of my problem, then why are so many completely stock Giulia's also having the same problems? Did your bright mind get far enough to think that through, or were you too busy thinking about what other information you could find about me?
5) I spoken to many law firms who are willing to work with this case. In fact one of the ones that I spoke with already had looked into this issue previously. As for my friends wife who is a lawyer, I have no idea who you are talking about. Serves to show how much you think you know versus how much you really know.

If I was genuinely just looking for a new car, I wouldn't waste my time posting to this forum, or replying to misinformed, clueless, unmannerly people like you. I would deal directly with Alfa Romeo and just get my own issue taken care of. I am trying to get the issued resolved once and for all as I am sick and tired of hearing so many horror stories of peoples cars stalling on the road.

Oh and another thing, but if you think I made advertising money by uploading that video to youtube, god help you, because you are absolutely clueless about what you are saying.

Now with all that said. Lets both put our childish egos and talk in a much more civilized and adult manner so that we can maintain a friendly environment within the forum.

 

Well considering the OP posted here a few months ago about having a Maxpower ECU tune, installed a few months prior to this happening, I wonder if AR is aware of this. No disrespect to Maxpower but you mess with the ECU you can’t be 100% surprised weird things happen to your engine...

 

I had a similar thing happen a couple times before. Way before I had the MAXPower. At the time they just said that it needed an update. In addition to that, many people who have completely stock Giulia's are also experiencing the same issue. What would be a possible explanation to that?

 

I suspect the thing most likely to stall is this lawsuit.

 

For those who have had the issue with the car stalling, contact me. 512-983-3339 or pradeep@austindroneworks.com

I have started to gather a group of people who has also had the same issue. I plan on being the class head for a class action lawsuit against Alfa Romeo concerning the matter (unless Alfa Romeo is willing to work with us). Would you like to take part as well?

All that I would need is that you write me a descriptive email regarding what happen to your car, and talk about how you don't feel safe driving that car. I will not disclose the names or any identifiable information about anyone who participates.

From the research that I have gathered, Alfa is already aware of the problem but they aren't actively fixing it. I have spoken to a few people who have had their cars replaced for the same issue. They even received $1200 for the "inconvenience" (hush money).

1. You posted what dealership you took your car to and your license plate with your name - Pradeep
2. You posted a you tube video of driving through water
3. You posted how you hope you get the same compensation of a “new” car like your friend got after you are almost expired for Lemon Law.
4. You can bring that public information to the attention of your dealership that might want to give AR a heads up on your EU tuning and mods that you brought back to factory spec because you planned to sell it. Hmmm. I guess you figured lemon and class action (or they fixed your car) are a way to get $1200 is your option. How about those Mods you took off caused your problem??????
5. Good luck getting a lawyer that will pony up pro bono except for your friends wife who is a lawyer.

You know. The whole semi thing and posting it on you tube smells like extortion. Oh that is how you make money a little advertisement. Sorry to be cynical but I wouldn’t dial that number because it probably costs money to call.

I just got my Ti a few weeks ago and I gotta say if this is what the forum is for I think I will go enjoy my car and say good luck on your Class Action Pradeep. You want something for nothing and you want the same deal with a new car because in a few months your car is two years old. Too bad you might have to be like everyone else and buy or lease a new car instead of coming up with this one.

That’s a kill shot Pradeep.

 

Bwaaaahahaaaa. Well played.

 

Chipshot ftw

 

No one here should support this. It could potentially damage the reputation of Alfa and reduce the resale value of our cars amongst other things.

 

Is resale value seriously a higher priority than a potential safety hazard? I don’t know about you, but I don’t mind loosing a couple thousand dollars if I can ensure greater reliability and overall safety

 

How are they going to guarantee a car will not stall again?

 

I didn’t say they have to guarantee that the car won’t stall. I wanted them to guarantee that it didn’t stall for the same reason again. It’s like a kid. You can’t blame em the first time they mess up, but what matter is that they learn from it and don’t let it happen again. Same thing here.

 

"class action' - a contradiction in terms.

of course attorney's would want to pursue one, typically they receive the bulk of any settlement money.
the principal party usually gets something 'worthwhile"
everyone else gets next to nothing.
and the company being sued has to shell out dollars that could have been used to solve an issue or take care of customers.

of course there are valid actions where a company has intentionally demonstrated malfeasance or something else nefarious, and needs to be punished - but I really don't think AR or any auto company wants to make cars that result in warranty claims or buybacks, so I fail to see the point.

 

For those who have had the issue with the car stalling, contact me. 512-983-3339 or pradeep@austindroneworks.com

Are you receiving a lot of Spam and unwanted phone calls as a result of posting your address and phone number on a public website?

 

Tens of thousands of vehicles on the road; a handful of problems; a few trying to make a buck of those problems. (a poem, by gregc).
G

 

Reads like a haiku candidate. :grin2:

 

Please let us know what the judge says after you tell him or her that you will not accept just a repair or a new replacement vehicle.

 

And having to disclose your posts on here about your mods and failure to go to the dealer when your warnings lights appeared. As well as your YouTube videos.

 

Class-action lawsuits bring little satisfaction to the vast majority of the class members. The lawyers and the class representative(s) take the lion’s share of any recovery, generally.

 

Plenty of Alfa hate to tap into: https://www.facebook.com/107118047976/posts/10157664758382977/

 

If my opinion means anything I haven’t seen any cars in yet for stalling, or any damaged cars from stalling and being hit by other cars. We also service FCA executive cars, many of which are Alfas, nothing to report.
As I’ve stated before, really the only issues I’ve seen are battery related, or software related, it’s very rare to see anything else. As well most of the Alfas we service are cars that are sitting on the lot for sale, once they’re sold and get driven we don’t see many issues with them.
And btw, no car company will give you a written guarantee your car won’t stall.
99% of lawsuits are stupid, including this one.

 

This whole deal seems rather odd. He comes on the forum on April 30, 2017 with a long infomercial for Madness Autoworks which is fine and all, and how his Giulia is perfect. Then 3 months later is the "Sad Truth Behind the Beautiful Grill" thread which describes minor issues and the Dateline NBC-like experience with his dealer and what a nightmare it was to deal with them. He blames Alfa for issues that the dealers are supposed to take care of. He doesn't seem to contact Alfa Cares, although they reached out to him on the forum. He doesn't contact the GM or the owner of the dealership, which is something I would have done within the first 2 weeks if I'd had that kind of run-around. Then we hear nothing from him for 90 days until he posts that he's selling a carbon fiber steering wheel. ? What was the follow-up to the nightmare story with the beautifully worded click-bait title?

Then nothing for 7 months until May 11, 2018 when he posts another glowing report about how great Madness Autoworks is and he's just had them install their MAXPower "ECU tune" (which btw isn't actually an ECU tune as Chris from Eurocompulsion points out) on his car. He posts pics of his car at their shop getting the mod added. He raves about the performance of his Giulia. It's also evident in the pics that he's added additional graphics with pin striping to his car, so he's clearly been using it since we had that horror-story post a year earlier.

No follow-up to the horror story post. Normally if someone in here has an issue like that, they post a follow-up to let us know what happened and how or if it was resolved. Apparently it was resolved to his satisfaction, since he clearly had his car back and was adding graphics to it as well as power mods. We don't hear from him again until about a week ago when he posts in a thread started by someone else about their cars stalling. He posts this video of how his car won't start and has this dramatic story of doing 80-85 when the car suddenly shuts down and how terrifying it was, and he was in the left lane trying to go into the right lane and almost gets hit by a semi. His video is supposedly of him trying to start his car after this traumatic experience...yet... the video clearly shows he's in a parking lot somewhere at night. He's not on the highway, he's not on the shoulder of the right lane with semi's going by.

And now suddenly he's a SJW who wants to put together a class-action lawsuit against Alfa Romeo? Even after he posted that mis-leading video, AlfaRomeoCares AGAIN immediately reaches out to him, but he hasn't responded? They reached out only 6 days ago, but he never acknowledges that?

Sorry but I don't buy the phony 'social justice warrior' act. Basically it looks like he thinks he screwed his car up, and now wants Alfa to eat that and just give him a new one. A class action lawsuit isn't going to give him a new car; if successful it will give the lawyers a new car and tarnish the name and reputation of Alfa.

I'm sorry Pradeep, but your story just doesn't hold water. If you've screwed up your car with mods, just man-up and pay to have it corrected. Don't try and transfer your crap to Alfa and the rest of us with your click-bait drama-queen headline titles.

 

I agree with above, dosnt make sense.. I drive my Alfa as if I stole it.. have 17k miles now since Feb of this year and NO PROBLEMS AT ALL!! I got the updates, the oil changed, even dropped in a performance filter.. I had MORE problems with my S2000 and all of my BMWs.. the first year of ownership.

 

me thinks, people in these forums need to act a little more respectful. Nothing hurts worse than when you are reaching out for help which Pradeept is doing, only to have people pile on with negative and sometimes downright rude or mean comments. Some gentle jabbing is always fun amongst friends but just reading half of the comments I wonder if that's how you talk to people in real life, in person...doubt it, at least I hope!

Oh and thanks whoever finally listed out what the issue is. I had to read most of this thread to figure that out. Kinda scary actually that I could be cruising down the highway with my little ones in the back only to have my car come to a sudden stop with pretty much no means to pull over. Even the HINT of that makes me wonder if I should have picked the M3 instead. Love my car, and I mean really love it but geesh this has me worried. I think we shall be rolling in the wife's suv unless we are on back roads with the kids herein until this thing plays out more.

Also please stop with the mod bashing to make a point. Y'all sit and comment on mods and have mods yourself and I myself have a CAI ready to purchase to add more/cooler air to my turbo as that lag is nasty. Fact is, these mods are sold as 'safe' and everyone's talking about them and everyone wants them (or should, ha). I disagree with the one poster that mentioned that you need to know the millions and tens of millions of lines of code to know what you are doing. The reality is the developers don't know all those lines of code. They work in pods of responsibility and many of the lines of code to be honest are static from previous development on previous systems. I could open up the code for a system and if I know what area Im looking for to make adjustments and what that does, and if there is or isn't other code that interacts with this code, and where that is at, then I'm golden.

 

I greatly appreciate the level of maturity that you have shown. As of last night I lost all faith and respect for this forum and it’s members, but thank you for showing me that genuine people are here as well.

 

LOL @pradeept08, where you been for the last year fam?

...chose to dissapear and only come back when you need something?



Look, I honestly don't care if you're trying to scam an auto manufacturer (aka get a new car plus some cash on top), but PLEASE don't be so dramatic about it. Hire a Lemon Law attorney and have them handle the case for you. There's absolutely no need for such a bs lawsuit and all these negative posts.

Alfa Romeo is a great company and they seem to be doing as much as they can to help consumers with any issues they run into. As a part of this effort, they are constantly putting out updates for our cars. You really can't say that they aren't doing anything to, at the very least, try and address these issues.

Please stop being so extra and consider taking down that video you posted. It's not helping your case at all, just adding to this bad image some people are creating that Alfa doesn't deserve.

P.S. Living "150 miles away" from a dealership is in no way a good excuse for missing out on these updates. I understand that it means you're less likely to take your car in for a little check-up than most of us here, but you can't just get an early model of a new car from a company that is pretty much new to the states and expect it to work completely flawlessly from day one, and to add insult to injury, complain that they aren't doing anything about it.

Either your car is a lemon... Or you're a genuine scumbag.

(though I fear it might be, really hope it isn't the latter)


-Johnny