I've had PS4S on a previous car and have the ExtremeContact Sport (original) on this car and between the two I like the ExtremeContact Sport better. Obviously not quite apples to apples, but when the price is that different I think the Continentals are a no brainier. I have no regrets with my ECS purchase.

 

When discussing these two tires, are you talking run flats or non-run flats? Non-run flats because more comfortable/responsive?

My '23 Veloce came with Pirelli P-Zero run flats... 225 40 19 in front and 255 35 19 in rear. Been enjoying them. Firm/Comfortable ride for what they are. Steering feels nice and responsive where ever you point it but not jittery. But thinking ahead what I should go with next.

Do I go non-run flats? Living in Florida forget all season and go summer only? Which are the more quieter tire? Where do the Pirellis fall between those two? Do I just get Pirellis again?

 

Generally Pirelli has been testing above-average, nothing exceptional (especially in the summer tire category). I would really look at the Tyre Reviews website and YouTube channel, he tests tires blind so there's never any bias in his data.

I prefer to not have runflats, because if you do actually drive on them when they're flat you really should replace them and generally most tire places will need to order them for you when you get there. Just stick with non runflats, if you get a flat call for a tow to go get it patched or patch it yourself.
Tires in the summer performance category should already have a stiff enough sidewall for handling purposes. In the all season categories you might find better handling with a runflat.

 

Oh, checking Tire Rack I didn't realize they don't have the Michelin's or Continental's in run flat. But they have the Pirelli P Zero in either and it's cheaper if non run flat.

 

At that price difference, I would go with ECS02

PS4S is a slightly better tire, but not for $250 more in my opinion.

 

In terms of performance, the two are close enough that most people will never notice the difference while street driving. I personally prefer Michelin, but admit that is personal bias more than anything else.

With that much of a price difference, the most logical choice is to get the Continentals.

 

In terms of performance, the two are close enough that most people will never notice the difference while street driving. I personally prefer Michelin, but admit that is personal bias more than anything else.

With that much of a price difference, the most logical choice is to get the Continentals.

Yeah reviews I've read so far have them pretty close. Maybe a slight edge in comfort to one and a slight performance feel to the other. So if that close I will probably go with cost. Since my daily I don't mind if I go for bit of comfort over performance. Also being a daily wouldn't mind if happen to have extra benefit like some rim protection with these being such low profile.

Not even having the car a few weeks one night it was so dark I didn't see a deep pothole and my front tire fell into it and felt such a jar I thought I had to have damaged/cracked my rim. When I got home and inspected was lucky not a sign of any damage on the rim; no dent, crack or the slightest scratch (Whew!). But the sidewall took a huge scrape and I think there was just a bit of rim protection on these Pirellis that it saved marring my rim. Gotta watch for the potholes with these 40/35 profile tires.

 

I went through this dilemma a few months ago. Ultimately ended up going with the ECS02 on my QV. Haven't noticed much difference from the PSS I had before. I'd get the ECS02 again if it came to it.

 

The only summer tires I've run on my QV has been the Extreme Contact DW S02. Great tire with great grip. Wear is ok for this car. I get about two seasons out of them in the rear. On the front I get 3 - 4 seasons with normal wear. One of my front wheels is showing cupping and wearing quick (which I need to sort out) but that's the car and not the tire. Never run the PSS so can't compare.

 

i don't run the "run-flat" tires on any of or cars, and instead have a road hazard warranty from Discount Tire for our several cars, Michelin AS3+ on my '18 QV. In the past two years or so, Discount has replaced five tires on my QV, fortunately on different corners, at a cost of about $70 each for them, costing $300 for fronts and $400 for the rears. Never a question, they usually get them in in one day or so. Works for me, bulges and punctures just cause me to drop by my local Discount shop, where they know me by name now. NV

 

Appreciate everyone's input. Ordered the ECS 02's over the weekend, they already arrived...(Tire Rack's shipping time is impressive)

Once these burn up I may give the 4S's a try or the 5S's if they are released by then.

 

I’ve run multiple generations (back to original PSS) on multiple cars. Driving around “briskly” on the highway and backroads -- the Contis. They handle great, ride great, aren’t too loud, etc.; and just seem a little easier to live with day to day. They are still seriously fast tires.
If an occasional track day is thrown into the mix, it’s time for a set of the latest Michelin PS whatevers.
We have a Giulia Ti Sport that my wife has put on track at Willow Springs, Infineon, Laguna Seca, and Thunderhill. It’s got a 3rd set of PS4s in 2 years. For all those about to comment; we know there are cheaper options to turn into tire dust; but the Michelins are fantastic when driven on track.
And by the way — the Giulia is a really great car on a track. Other cars may be a little faster with 200 more hp, but the Giulia is quick and doesn‘t have any vices (we often end up sharing the track with the Shelby club).
She just bought a 2018 4C to play with an track. When these Michelins wear out, it’ll be the Conti’s for sure on the Giulia. The Contis are the better tire for those runs up to the Sonoma cost, etc.

 

I just replaced the standard Pirelli P7s run flats. They only lasted 20K kms of normal driving which is pathetic. I got Pilot S5 non run flats and put a pump and tire puncture kit in the boot. I'm not sure if the Michellins are as responsive but they are a lot quieter than the Pirellis. They seemed to get the most recommendations here.

 

I just put them on the rear to replace original Corsas at 14k. Have only done 3 miles so far, but are far quieter than Corsas and felt a difference when making a sharp turn (sort of by accident, I almost missed a turn) when the tires weren't heated up. Fronts still have some life, so will hold off replacing Corsa fronts. I hate the Corsas, even though I live in Texas, just driving around on the street when the tires are not hot and dry was a horrible experience. Once I get all 4 done, I will no longer have to fear the tires falling apart if the car is exposed to an ocasional sub-37 degree sustained temperature.

The savings over PS4 is defiitely there. On my old E92 M3, I used Pilot sports, SS and PS4s, so this is my first time trying a high performance Continential summer tire.

I was nervous about using Discount Tire, especially since I have the CCBs and they said they don't jack Alfas with pucks. I have the Tesla pucks that fit perfectly and they used them and were very careful around the CCBs, so it worked out OK.

 

I just put them on the rear to replace original Corsas at 14k. Have only done 3 miles so far, but are far quieter than Corsas and felt a difference when making a sharp turn (sort of by accident, I almost missed a turn) when the tires weren't heated up. Fronts still have some life, so will hold off replacing Corsa fronts. I hate the Corsas, even though I live in Texas, just driving around on the street when the tires are not hot and dry was a horrible experience. Once I get all 4 done, I will no longer have to fear the tires falling apart if the car is exposed to an ocasional sub-37 degree sustained temperature.

The savings over PS4 is defiitely there. On my old E92 M3, I used Pilot sports, SS and PS4s, so this is my first time trying a high performance Continential summer tire.

I was nervous about using Discount Tire, especially since I have the CCBs and they said they don't jack Alfas with pucks. I have the Tesla pucks that fit perfectly and they used them and were very careful around the CCBs, so it worked out OK.

FYI, it's generally not advisable to run different models of tire front and rear. It's not as bad as running different tires left and right, but it's still not ideal!