[JeFizz]

Digging this up, I have a 2017 First Edition 2.0 280hp. Wouldn't it be possible to completely repurpose the DNA selector and replace for example A with Race using MES? Or does the switch has something physical in it that does the trick?

As I stated in your DM to me, that would require a reprogramming of the ECM. BCM PROXI data is only a static set of configurable parameters.

 

[Smug]

Here's a video I just took showing what I get with the different DNA modes and the EC mode activated. Also shows the status of ESC and FCW after the vehicle is shut off and turned back on.

I have questions, as a new Stelvio 2017 First Edition owner if you're kind to answer.
1. Why do you have the regular DNA switch, yet you can rotate it beyond D (to where Race is supposed to be)? Is this possible after you modify the selector physically (soldering)?
2. First post (yours) says 2017-2018 have to replace the dna selector with a rdna, then post #9 (Clark) says for 16-18 you can modify the selector to switch to Race. Which is true? Judging by your video, the second? Or both are an option?
Mustering the courage to do this, if my selector can't be modified, I found a rdna selector for 100euros for sale and will ask the seller which part code it is to see if it fits my build year, which part code of the 3 mentioned in comments above would fit my car? Thanks!

 

[JeFizz]

I have questions, as a new Stelvio 2017 First Edition owner if you're kind to answer.
1. Why do you have the regular DNA switch, yet you can rotate it beyond D (to where Race is supposed to be)? Is this possible after you modify the selector physically (soldering)?
2. First post (yours) says 2017-2018 have to replace the dna selector with a rdna, then post #9 (Clark) says for 16-18 you can modify the selector to switch to Race. Which is true? Judging by your video, the second? Or both are an option?
Mustering the courage to do this, if my selector can't be modified, I found a rdna selector for 100euros for sale and will ask the seller which part code it is to see if it fits my build year, which part code of the 3 mentioned in comments above would fit my car? Thanks!

1. Yes. OE DNA selector physically and electrically modified.
2. Modify the OE selector, or replace with a QV DNS selector from that same generation Giulia. There are two versions based on what year your car is. You need the 2016-2019 RDNA selector. It's your choice.

 

[bradleycdg]

Good evening, excuse me for disturbing you, but I also bought a Giulia an and I mounted the DNA race driving mode selector and I also did the manipulation via multi ECU scan, except that I encounter a problem in « race » mode, I cannot change gears with the paddle, is this normal?

 

[JeFizz]

Good evening, excuse me for disturbing you, but I also bought a Giulia an and I mounted the DNA race driving mode selector and I also did the manipulation via multi ECU scan, except that I encounter a problem in « race » mode, I cannot change gears with the paddle, is this normal?

You need to have a module updated to a newer version. I don't know which one that would be though. @SniZ should be able to help you.

 

[bradleycdg]

Good evening, excuse me for disturbing you, but I also bought a Giulia an and I mounted the DNA race driving mode selector and I also did the manipulation via multi ECU scan, except that I encounter a problem in « race » mode, I cannot change gears with the paddle, is this normal?

You need to have a module updated to a newer version. I don't know which one that would be though. @SniZ should be able to help you.

ok I hope he can help me because it's complicated because even in manual it changes gears still complicated in drift

 

[Gev88]

Buonasera, scusate il disturbo, ma ho comprato anche io una Giulia e ho montato il selettore di modalità di guida DNA race e ho fatto anche la manipolazione tramite multi ECU scan, solo che riscontro un problema in modalità « race », non riesco a cambiare marcia con il paddle, è normale? [/CITAZIONE] Si devi aggiornare il cambio . Per recuperare le mappe DNA, devi eseguire un secondo allinemaneto proxy solo alle ECU motore con il selettore DNA tipo 1. In race il motore lavorerà in N sempre

 

[bradleycdg]

I don't understand your answer, friend.

 

[Gev88]

I don't understand your answer, friend.

Per ripristinare la funzionalità del cambio devi aggiornarlo contatta a Sniz su questo forum. Per ripristinare le mappe dna usa questa guida: * ⁠selezioni la voce selettore dinamico * ⁠imposti type 1 * ⁠confermi * ⁠torni a inizio pagina * ⁠avvia allineamento proxy * ⁠appena parte l’allineamento proxy con la prima centralina scolleghi dalla presa obd * ⁠la seconda centralina che allinea è la ECU Motore quindi colleghi subito l’interfaccia * ⁠appena ti dà eseguito e inizia la centralina successiva stacchi l’interfaccia dalla presa obd e lasci fallire gli allineamenti * ⁠ti dirà di collegare adattatore blu e poi il bianco tu lascia fare e lascia interfaccia scollegata * ⁠alla fine ti dirà allineamento proxy effettuato

 

[bradleycdg]

Per ripristinare la funzionalità del cambio devi aggiornarlo contatta a Sniz su questo forum. Per ripristinare le mappe dna usa questa guida: * ⁠selezioni la voce selettore dinamico * ⁠imposti type 1 * ⁠confermi * ⁠torni a inizio pagina * ⁠avvia allineamento proxy * ⁠appena parte l’allineamento proxy con la prima centralina scolleghi dalla presa obd * ⁠la seconda centralina che allinea è la ECU Motore quindi colleghi subito l’interfaccia * ⁠appena ti dà eseguito e inizia la centralina successiva stacchi l’interfaccia dalla presa obd e lasci fallire gli allineamenti * ⁠ti dirà di collegare adattatore blu e poi il bianco tu lascia fare e lascia interfaccia scollegata * ⁠alla fine ti dirà allineamento proxy effettuato

Ho fatto la gestione del DNA, mi serve solo il cambio.

 

[Gev88]

Ho fatto la gestione del DNA, mi serve solo il cambio.

Contatta a Sniz

 

[bradleycdg]

Contatta a Sniz

Fare

 

[Gev88]

Fare

Chiedi tt a lui

 

[HeMaN]

You need an update (tune) on the transmission software for this to work

 

[bradleycdg]

You need an update (tune) on the transmission software for this to work

How can I do this?

 

[HeMaN]

How can I do this?

Contact Sniz on this forum or e.g. Squadra tuning

 

[Smug]

Great Job ! Thank you for doing it.

I spent a lot of time in different forums trying to understand everything as i am new to Alfa Romeo systems and a lot of the terms used are from expert people.
I will try to add information that i found useful for me and that you can use or not.

Refering to your text :

• Purchase and install the RDNA selector for a Quadrifoglio.
  For the 2019 models like mine, there is a change in the DNA module that is now going through the CAN bus where before it was an analog switch (see schematics here and part numbers reference here(GSX means Left Hand Drive cars))
  • Reference for analog switch is 156.129.231 (MY16 through MY18)
  • Reference for CAN bus switch is 156.141.589 (MY19 through MY20)
• I have found no online reseller for the 2019 switch as of today.
  There is a link to the EPER (Fiat/Chrysler Technical reference) here but it does not account for MY19 models (still ?).
  
  
• Option 2: (Modify your existing DNA selector.
  The described DIY modification is only applicable for models with analog switch MY16 through MY18.
  Some older models MY16 were already equipped with DNA with 3 switches and just need to enable DNA rotation to Race position.
  I don't know if the 2019 switch can be modified by a DIY solution.
  
  
• Hide your DNA modification
  I have found an italian forum (here) where a guy installed the original DNA cap onto it's R-DNA switch thus removing Race marking. Not perfect but a smart way to get the mod not visible at first glance.
  I have found nowhere the process to remove the DNA cap, seems tricky.
  
  
• Step 2/2 Configure the ECM to allow the RDNA selector to toggle Race mode:
  You can perform the ECM configuration modification without changing the DNA.
  The modification will not be accessible/testable up to when the R-DNA is in place.
  This will secure your money in case you can't go to the end of the Proxy/ABS process
  
  
• you will need to connect to the ABS module using the gray (#6) cable. Perform the 3 calibrations
  As far as i understood correctly the discussions in the forum (here), you need to ensure that the driving wheel is in 0 position and that the car is laying on a flat surface for the process to complete without error.
  The 3 steps of calibration (here) are:
  • Lateral and Longitudinal acceleration sensors
  • Reset steering angle
  • Pressure sensor calibration

Those are my additionnal findings that could help to better master the process for less skilled people in Alfa Romeo programming and modding.
My Alfa Romeo tools are under order but we are in August and everything takes longer to be shipped and be delivered.

If anyone with a 2019 model has done the modification and would share the results, it would be fine.

EDIT : added links to information source references

First of all, I want to thank you for this very useful information. I have a 2.0t 2017 First Edition so I need the analog switch and I don't think I wanna risk ruining my actual switch by soldering. I've found some options on ebay, some with the code you mentioned 156129321, but then there's part code 156164873 and it says spring 4 pin. What is this model since it doesn't align with the 2019+ part code?