How to redo? You mean run it again? I did it several times, but it can try again

 

ok, well, it's up to you, but yes, just run the PROXI alignment procedures again.

 

Ok another PROXI alignment didn't help

I've noticed this when scanning modules:

Transmission / CDCM (Chassis Domain Control Module)
UNKNOWN/UNSUPPORTED
ISO Code: 00 52 50 5C 14

Does UNSUPPORTED mean that PROXI actually didn't work?

 

CDCM is probably the issue, but it's strange that you didn't have a flashing odometer. Usually when there is a module that has no clue what race mode is, the odometer will flash to indicate that there was an issue with the proxi alignment. At least that is my understanding. Try the other type, that may be successful.

 

Ok, so here what else I tried:
I swapped CDCM back to stock (yes, I had GTAm from @Alfissimo ) and performed PROXI again.
It all went fine (displayed SUCCESS on every module and said "Turn off the key" in the end).
I recalibrated the sensors too.
Odometer doesn't flash.

When I perform the scan I get 2 unknown modules:

Dashboard / ETM (Entertainment Telematic Module)
UNKNOWN/UNSUPPORTED

which I assume a DNA selector - now DNA + Race installed
and CDCM - now stock installed.

Also when if I try to autodetect the interface in MES it sets it to ELM at 38400 speed. When I try to perform PROXI it says "Interface to slow, set to ELM (High Speed)". It allows to perform PROXI only after that change (speed is also set to 38400).

When I go to PROXI now it says "The vehicle is properly configured. PROXI not needed." All modules are green and OK.

It seems like a BCM issue at this point

 

I have to say you are doing a pretty damn good job of troubleshooting this. I think at this point you may need to consider bribing your dealership to update your BCM, and or other modules that may need updating in order to support this. That could be spendy, but if that's what you want to do, that is your prerogative.

 

What version is the DTCM software? DTCM software version needs to be 501 or higher

 

DTCM is M0110265 - Ver. 0501
DTCM HW is M0045027.02 - Ver 21

 

Ok, so new update:
I've bought ObdLink USB adapter and I was able to perform a PROXI alignment with both OEM and tuned parts.
So Race mode works now.
My only concern that both Race know and suspension ECU are still UNKNOWN/UNSUPPORTED
I'll monitor the errors and post a new update.

 

NICE!! Glad you go it. I've had great success with that SX adapter. Rock solid as long as you have the COM port settings proper.

 

awesome brother, hope you lose all the traction achievable! and more importantly, hopefully code free!

 

Hi! First thanks for all the work done there. I went on installing The Race mode DNA button on my MY18 Véloce Giulia with adaptative suspensions. it worked. but I felt a difference in the way the throttle behave, same response il all modes. for now I reverted to default rdna type. has anyone found a way to get the proper throttle response? if I understood well as I have adaptative dampers I need a exchange of the Damper control module system by square tuning to get it to work properly in N and D mode? thanks

 

need a exchange of the Damper control module system by square tuning to get it to work properly in N and D mode?

Interested to this point. Someone has experienced that dumper control module works fine in D-N-A mode, in R by default go crazy, but if you press the button to make them soften, it work fine... I've that feedback only by a couple of MY2016 2.2D Q2 users, I'm investigating.

 

yes you can set Them to mid. but by default they just do hard at back and soft at front. it seems some companies like square tuning propose to exchange your damper control module vs a one that they flashed to behave like a real QV.

 

yes expensive, but i will consider it if i can have a race mode with working throttle response, honestly

 

does anyone have a digital speedo in race mode?? does updating ipc firmware to the newest available version 100% give you that?

 

Yes it is the IPC update that changes it.

 

I've searched this thread and forum and I'm seeing a unique issue with Type 2 on my 2023 Q2 Veloce w/ unmodded monostable selector - whenever I put the car into Race mode it's fine but I get a present code U142D-00. I can still switch between all the modes and everything is OK within the same power cycle, but if I turn the car off, on the next start it throws a CEL and locks me in N until I clear the code. The code shows present in MES as long as I am in the same powercycle even when changing between drive modes but shows intermittent after restarting and in the CEL lock.

There's not any specific information given on that code and searches on the web didn't turn up any results. I get an email and app notification that actually has a little more info. The app alert says "EOBD/INJECTION SYSTEM FAILURE" but also that the code should clear with an power cycle but it does not. I can't find where I saw it now but at some point I could have sworn I saw somewhere an error along the lines of "Drive mode out of range" or "Unknown drive position" but can't seem to find it now.

Not necessarily looking for help yet since I haven't tried Type 3 and am still messing about the wiring on my audio project, just want to get this info in the thread in case someone else comes looking with a similar issue.

That said, I love Race mode, 100% should have been a factory option since now the car behaves like I imagine it should. The TSC is so sensitive I didn't realize how much power it cuts so frequently just say pulling out into traffic.

 

My 22MY Giulia does this too if you turn it race mode when the car is too cold.

 

Finally got around to setting up Type 2 race mode on my 2019 Q2 performance pack last week.

Grabbed a new RDNA knob and a used 'D' rev CDCM from a wrecked QV. About 10 minutes to install the hardware, and another 15 or so to do the recoding and proxi alignment with MES - very easy.

After a few days, I did notice that the mid-damper setting was a lot firmer than it used to be, while full stiff was wildly so. Since MES can't do a CDCM calibration, I grabbed AlfaOBD. Now the Dynamic/mid-damper setting is back to normal and race is much improved.

Personally, I'm pleased with the throttle map changes being eliminated. It feels much more natural - Dynamic always just felt overboosted to give the impression of torque. It was much too binary.

All-in-all a worthwhile upgrade - thanks for the tips here.

 

and a used 'D' rev CDCM from a wrecked QV. About 10 minutes to install the hardware, and another 15 or so to do the recoding and proxi alignment with MES - very easy.

After a few days, I did notice that the mid-damper setting was a lot firmer than it used to be, while full stiff was wildly so. Since MES can't do a CDCM calibration, I grabbed AlfaOBD. Now the Dynamic/mid-damper setting is back to normal and race is much improved.

Hi, thanks for sharing all this,

do you have the part number of the good QV CDCM, rev D is the only compatible?

for the engine and throttle map, i can understand your point, it is true that D is just about feeling more torque earlier, but i wondered even if few of us use all weather mode, does the change to normal map compromise all weather capacities in difficult terrains?

 

A feels good in the winter on ice/snow.

 

thanks. so now i only have to upgrade or find a used QV CDCM.

ebay motors is your best bet, thats where i found mine. you will also need the paid version of AlfaOBD in order to perform an accelerometer calibration otherwise you will get a “Service Dampers” warning, after a couple miles of driving on the new qv cdcm.

I also bought mine on eBay. It took a while to find a 'D' revision - the 'C' versions are much more common.

I did not receive an error message with an uncalibrated CDCM, but the ride was very harsh. Once I calibrated it, probably 250 miles later, it was good.

 

thanks for all this information, I know what I need now to complete my dream Veloce Giulia. CDCM, enable race mode, and a valve exhaust with valve opening on D and RACE. 🔥🔥🔥

 

btw, i have a question for those that changed their CDCM or reprogrammed it for their non QVs and race mode. on stock cdcm we have a standard damper setting in A and N and in D we have by default a Sport damper mode that can be set to off (so standard setting), by upgrading to the new CDCM, what changes? only the race mode full support ( race damper mode or same sport damper mode as in D?)

 

With Race mode enabled, a third, stiff or ‘full damper’ setting is added. This is the default damper setting in Race mode.

Pressing the damper button in Race mode will soften them to the Dynamic mode setting, which is now named ‘mid damper’.

Pressing the damper button in Dynamic mode will continue to soften them to the Natural (and Advanced Eco) mode setting, ‘soft damper’.

The Dynamic ‘mid damper’ default should continue to be the same as stock once you do a CDCM calibration.

 

The Dynamic ‘mid damper’ default should continue to be the same as stock once you do a CDCM calibration.

Thanks for all this, i’ve seen with squadra tuning, for my version of the CDCM (rev D) it will be GTA/GTAm flashing. price is quite ok, so i may do this for christmas this year.

 

Ok so i have a temporary QV cdcm unit while squadra tuning will be upgrading mine, enabled the race mode type 2

when you refer to the whole table explaining the effects of dna modes for each car management module, the only change is ecm and throttle management module that stays in A.

cdcm upgraded has a race mode

instruments shows race mode

for the rest i suppose race mode keep same settings as dna?

has the zf gearbox a « race » mode too or does it use dynamic mode?

thanks

 

Btw I understood why some people say to change the blue gray adapter quickly, there may be a timeout in the whole proxy alignment process, but I found a way around to avoid stressing for changing cables, it works with an USB obd adapter

Each time it tells you to change the adapter, do it and unplug/replug USB on the computer before pressing Y

It avoid the timeout.

I realized that after getting one on proxy alignment that thrower at me all the bunch of instruments light including engine.

Used my method the second time and it worked like a charm

 

Btw I understood why some people say to change the blue gray adapter quickly, there may be a timeout in the whole proxy alignment process, but I found a way around to avoid stressing for changing cables, it works with an USB obd adapter

Each time it tells you to change the adapter, do it and unplug/replug USB on the computer before pressing Y

It avoid the timeout.

I realized that after getting one on proxy alignment that thrower at me all the bunch of instruments light including engine.

Used my method the second time and it worked like a charm

I do the same thing. Unplug the whole thing and swap adapters.

 

Made that: is that correct? anything to change or add? (I put a question mark on the race mode for AT8 because I don't know how they behave even if I read some feedback it felt smoother and quickier )

 

So the brake pedal calibration is also effected when enabling RACE mode for the 2.0L?

 

Hello!

I have a Giulia 2.0 Turbo 200HP RWD from 2019 with a monostable DNA switch.
Without any hardware modification I can turn on and test the "ESC Off" (Type3 EC) and Race (Type2 CC) mode today.

Both mode worked well, I experienced the following:

ESC Off mode:
When I switch to D mode, the media display shows four icons indicating the safety devices are switched off, but the central display does not show them.
Then when I switch to D after ESC Off mode, the reverse is true, they do not appear on the media display, but they do on the central display.
In this mode the transmission same as like Dynamic, quicker shifting, incrased rev.

Race mode:
When I switch to D mode and then to RACE mode, the warning icons are in the right place, in sync on both displays.
The gearbox goes wild, it keeps the rpm above 4000 and shifts very quickly, the paddle shifters work, but the shift indicators on the display non-functioning.

I confirm that the gas pedal and engine maps are remains at "Normal" in all modes in both cases.
With this DNA button in RACE mode, none of the letters are illuminated in red.

Can anyone help me why the warning icons are reversed in EC mode?


(sorry for my English)

 

A huge thank you for this post! Was half way down the aisle to buy a DNA+R switch only to find out I have the new one which doesn’t need to be changed. No errors after changing bite 88 either! 👏🏾 God Bless

 

@JeFizz & the rest who has contributed a lot,

Finally i get my hands on a MY22 Stelvio and enable the "Race" mode. The coding itself pretty straight forward because i am having a monostable dna selector. What i did was selecting Type 3 Switch and here is my findings.

1. All dna mode functions as before (ECU & TCU map change accordingly)
2. "Race" mode, ESP & traction control fully off and able to get my Stelvio tail out . However, the ECU & TCU map is in n mode i beleive.
3. Adaptive suspension still working either in d or "Race"
4. ETM screen wont change or show "Race" but only the dashboard has the "Front Collision" & "ESC Off"

So my next question will be should I change the Byte 88 to something to fit/display better for "Race"?
My original Byte 88 was B4 and now with Type 3 Sellector, it changed to F4 by itself after Proxi Alignement.

Thank you in advance.

 

How to change the screen to RACE mode?

 

Read the 1st topic again and post your question with more information pls.

 

hi guys,

just to share some update on "Race" mode on my Stelvio MY22 2.0T with adaptive suspension.

i play ard with AlfaOBD and set to Type 2 (DNA+RACE) and surprisingly it react better than I use MES setting on Type 3.

It seems like the dashboard display more "Race" mode info but not sure how that "Shift" works.

On top of that, some how it activated my adaptive suspensive with MID if I press the button on the DNA dial. Now the LED turns RED in Race mode instead of White as like in D mode.

The car seems responding to the "Race" mode damper setting and can feel it is hard. I am not sure it is because of my car MY22 has better firmare/software to work with "Race" more or not. Or it is AlfaOBD software better package to activate Race. No idea... just playing with it.

 

I have same issue did the alfaobd resolve this problem