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I'm with hunger and riparke

The OP posted excellent advice on how to tune the systems in the early cars. However, the newer systems and/ or upgraded software are a substantial improvement. For example, the sound from the dash speakers and door tweeters in my 2018 TI Sport does not need to be reduced using the clever solutions he described.

I have a high end audio system at home and have installed after market systems in several vehicles. My HK system sounds just fine. Sound quality is limited more by the program source than by the hardware. The size of the speaker magnets and the materials in the speakers do not define sound quality.

The sound quality of my system improved over the first few weeks I owned the car. At first I thought it was my imagination (“It’s frightening what you can get used to”) but, riding in the car for for the first time in a week, my wife asked what I had done to upgrade the system. I have no explanation for the improvement.

The sound level of my system can easily be adjusted to exceed my threshold of pain. If your system won’t produce high volume sound, make sure you have the latest updates.

I am reminded of an old cartoon. Two men are sitting in a concert hall listening to a performance. One turns to the other and says, “ It needs more bass and the mid range lacks definition”.
 
my HK is in a different room, stelvio, but I don't have any complaints and the only thing I've adjusted is the volume.
I'm not an audiophile - but I've recorded a fair amount and worked to get the playback and transfer to sound like being there, on a variety of reproduction systems, so think I've got pretty good ears.
 
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I'm with hunger and riparke

The OP posted excellent advice on how to tune the systems in the early cars. However, the newer systems and/ or upgraded software are a substantial improvement. For example, the sound from the dash speakers and door tweeters in my 2018 TI Sport does not need to be reduced using the clever solutions he described.

I have a high end audio system at home and have installed after market systems in several vehicles. My HK system sounds just fine. Sound quality is limited more by the program source than by the hardware. The size of the speaker magnets and the materials in the speakers do not define sound quality.

The sound quality of my system improved over the first few weeks I owned the car. At first I thought it was my imagination (“It’s frightening what you can get used to”) but, riding in the car for for the first time in a week, my wife asked what I had done to upgrade the system. I have no explanation for the improvement.

The sound level of my system can easily be adjusted to exceed my threshold of pain. If your system won’t produce high volume sound, make sure you have the latest updates.

I am reminded of an old cartoon. Two men are sitting in a concert hall listening to a performance. One turns to the other and says, “ It needs more bass and the mid range lacks definition”.
I was the starter of this thread, and I agree that the updated systems sound a lot better. And I have removed the mufflers from the tweeters. I don't love the system, but it is definitely better than it was. I would have definitely paid more money to get a real sub with its own dedicated amp.
 
I'm with hunger and riparke

The OP posted excellent advice on how to tune the systems in the early cars. However, the newer systems and/ or upgraded software are a substantial improvement. For example, the sound from the dash speakers and door tweeters in my 2018 TI Sport does not need to be reduced using the clever solutions he described.

I have a high end audio system at home and have installed after market systems in several vehicles. My HK system sounds just fine. Sound quality is limited more by the program source than by the hardware. The size of the speaker magnets and the materials in the speakers do not define sound quality.

The sound quality of my system improved over the first few weeks I owned the car. At first I thought it was my imagination (“It’s frightening what you can get used to”) but, riding in the car for for the first time in a week, my wife asked what I had done to upgrade the system. I have no explanation for the improvement.

The sound level of my system can easily be adjusted to exceed my threshold of pain. If your system won’t produce high volume sound, make sure you have the latest updates.

I am reminded of an old cartoon. Two men are sitting in a concert hall listening to a performance. One turns to the other and says, “ It needs more bass and the mid range lacks definition”.

Love "Two men are sitting in a concert hall listening to a performance. One turns to the other and says, “ It needs more bass and the mid range lacks definition”
The best sound is from USB flac or 320 mp3 (by the way playlist don't work unless you use ".m3u8" extension and files in root, if you have a folder structure you must duplicate the file in folder to root.
The playlist file is just a text file with the name of the file listed
xxxxxxx.mp3
zzzzzzzz.mp3
 
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my car is new, thus maybe the difference from the original systems. What i notice is very good definition in the mid range. I have heard some guitar riffs that I never hear in an automotive system. On the downside, the bass lacks punch and is sometimes a bit buzzy. Dedicated sub would definitely help. My VW used the entire spare wheel tub for the amp and sub. What are we going to do now that manufacturers have given up on spare wheels entirely??
 
I have a new Ti with the HK and I'm so far disappointed with the sound, compared to the HK 19-speaker system in my Jeep Grand Cherokee...seems as though I can't escape the midrange, it's just overpowering. The center dash speaker sounds awful, and to my ears the sound is even further degraded (i.e. even more midrange in the center) when turning OFF surround. Really don't want to put thousand(s) more into improving the stereo. I'll just keep tweaking it until my ears give up and accept it.

Oh, and count me in on the passenger door speaker rattle.
 
The worst part with the rattles (in my case it's the window controls on both doors) is that while I'm tempted to pull the door cards to do something about that rattle, I fear that I'll just end up with others from having taken it apart. It's going in week after next for its service interval (and hopefully infotainment updates, since I've mentioned about how it likes to lose my favorites and will sometimes randomly shut off...) so maybe I can get them to address the door rattles as well. I'd love a proper subwoofer in there, but until the rattles are gone, that's all a sub would really do is increase the rattling. (I miss the Audison gear I had in my GLK - sub and amp in the spare tire well, factory head unit through a bit-one. Hertz speakers throughout)
 
The HK system in the loaded up Stinger I had for a week was truly awful. You'd adjust it to sound good on Spotify, and then HD radio would be intolerable. Could not dial it in.

The two things I miss from my MK7 (other than the hatch) are the Panasonic sound system, which was better than it really had any right to be, and the absurdly good dynamic headlights.
 
When I had mine in for the T57 update, I asked the service manager to take a look at my passenger door speaker because it buzzed at lower frequency ranges.
He wrote in the service report that he was able to re-produce the problem, and therefore replaced the whole speaker.
Unfortunately, the problem is now SUBSTANTIALLY worse. It buzzes at all frequency ranges, even when someone is merely speaking. It is driving me crazy. I wish I never mentioned it.
 
@ChiGuy: Thanks for the warning. I was noticing some rattling in certain tracks and was going to bring it up to the dealership when she is in for the fuel pump replacement. Now I am thinking, maybe be happy with what you go. I am thinking it is not the speaker but something else is rattling in the door. I am going to play with it a bit and see if I can isolate it and try the OP route.
 
Are mileage is about the same. Maybe some items are loosening up. Sounds like maybe we should trouble shoot this. Someone did have some insulation added to the doors on one of the posts. Right now I am just starting to figure it out. The weather has reached that “I can now go work on the car phase” or maybe it is because the weather has cooled off and is making the plastics harden. Keep me posted on your fixes.
 
It’s not the inertial fuel cutoff is it? Where are people hearing this thing rattle? Wonder if some bad sensors rattling away might be at fault for some other problems people have...
This sensor is for detecting side collisions. This is supposed to be sensitive.
 
I am planning on installing some sound deadening material that will stop the inertia sensor noise and while I do that, will also see if there is anything that is loose enough to rattle. Will keep you posted.
 
When I had mine in for the T57 update, I asked the service manager to take a look at my passenger door speaker because it buzzed at lower frequency ranges.
He wrote in the service report that he was able to re-produce the problem, and therefore replaced the whole speaker.
Unfortunately, the problem is now SUBSTANTIALLY worse. It buzzes at all frequency ranges, even when someone is merely speaking. It is driving me crazy. I wish I never mentioned it.
They probably didn't get the door panel or something else back on correctly. Absolutely take it back and complain.
 
Same here, HK system rattling the drivers door. I don’t want to have the dealer look at it as I assume they are likely to make it worse if they take apart the door panel. Thinking about it there’s a lot of stuff in the drivers door and It’s not easy to make everything tight enough to handle the dynamic pressure changes of a decent mid/bass driver.
I’ve been trying to get an idea of what’s rattling. I thought it may be the controls with the window switch’s and mirror adjust, it seems to make it better sometimes (not always) when I press on that. It’s probably internal though.
 
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