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Tomorrow the Giulia is being traded-in, after a 46 month adventure. I’m simply not willing to deal with the costs and frustrations of ownership outside of warranty coverage, given the litany of component failures my early ‘17 has experienced. I’ve been lucky to have two dealerships within 45 minutes, but have found myself ping-ponging between them as managers, advisors and staff change. While the dealerships generally attempt to provide good service, Alfa Romeo USA (read as FCA) cripples their efforts with poor parts stock and supply, an idiotic parts system that demands a VIN and then often delivers the incorrect part anyway, and slow approval of warranty parts replacement.

The overall quality of Alfa Romeo seems comparable with most mainstream vehicles, and I fully understand my case was on the extreme end, but the costs of parts if I was out of warranty are breathtaking. Normal service at Alfa dealers is an exercise in cost containment, as they seek to maximize revenue. Software support for the ’17’s and early ‘18’s has now almost completely stopped, and the repeated unfulfilled promises on ACP and AA were a bitter pill. The navigation map fiasco , still continuing, was just a minor example of FCA’s failure to respect owners expenditures for a navigation system that was near useless.

The vehicle is itself is an absolute joy to drive, but the intrusive traction control and stability programs on the 2.0 kill some of the fun. Turbo lag is something you become accustomed to, but is clearly excessive versus competitive vehicles. The Giulia eats tires like candy, no matter how you police alignment and wear. The low front end is a self own waiting to happen, poorly designed for modern driving.

Would I buy it again, yes! Is it the best car I’ve ever owned, no. With a manual transmission, and a little FCA support, this car could be a world beater, and I will miss her. She was everything my old Acura TSX 6-speed could have been with a better engine.

Stay safe, and keep enjoying the ride!
Sorry to see you go. And sorrier too that you had so many problems. I have a friend with a 2017 Giulia and he too has had problems. I have a 2018 Stelvio and a 2019 Giulia Quad. We've had zero problems with both, and Stelvio is on original tires. I swapped out the stock pirelli tires after 10K on the Quad, because I prefer the Pilots for foul weather traction. We've had no service issues thus far. I've owned many German cars, including 3 Porsches, and 3 Mercs, and an Audi. Had to do repairs on all three while still under warranty. Maintenance on the Porsche is extremely expensive with lousy service too. So for a high end European car Alfa is no worse.
 
I will be returning for the same reasons. The car is an unbelievable bargain for what it is, but the running costs are substantial, and as you said, it doesn't like to sit unused. Our car has eaten 2.5 sets of tires in 28K miles and a full set of pads. She also burns a fair amount of fuel even when not driven in anger, and our lifetime mpg is around 21 mpg in mixed driving. Before our Tesla was totaled by a Karen running a red, it cost us 25 bucks a month to run, and we never had to wait for the engine to warm up to give it the beans.

Some of the little rough spots have also become pretty grating. My Android Auto has gone from crashing occasionally to only working occasionally and is not phone dependent. Really maddening to have to now troubleshoot it every time I get in. The parking sensors blaring in Park, start / stop BS, and inability to disable easy entry just add to the frustration.

As you said, unbeatable second vehicle. Probably the best sport seats I've ever experienced and some of the best paint you get under 6 figures.
There is something odd about Android Auto, it is problematic on my 2020 Mercedes as well. And wouldn't work in my Son's 2020 Kia.
 
12 days from lease end, my car threw a check engine and start/stop-disabled sign. I'm guessing the battery is going, but I'm going to get the car taken to the nearest dealer, if I can find an appointment. WTF. First the bumper, now this? All in a car I've leased close to 2 years and put 27K miles on including 2 absolutely trouble free 3day/3,000 mile drives. Breathe...
 
Not saying every problem is the same, but most common issue with AA & especially with CarPlay is bad cables. In case of Car Play, it almost always disappears with full price cables bought in the apple store. :|
There is something odd about Android Auto, it is problematic on my 2020 Mercedes as well. And wouldn't work in my Son's 2020 Kia.
 
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My decision was done a while back. Give up the lease at lease end. There's two new cars entering the household this year. An S cabrio that was ordered for wife's birthday and the EQS at the end of the year. I will replace the XC90 at it's lease end next April with a Giulia tentatively.

The point being, while we enjoy having and driving fun cars, never before have we felt so much pain at the end of a lease.

So what's your plan? Keep the best Italian sports sedan ever made, or....?
 
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The Giulia is gone, as for Friday 5pm.
Some 19yr old with white hightops is going to pick her up for a song, vomit in the passenger seat after trying Lagavulin for the first time, put 21" wheels and 20 profile tires on her, fill the trunk with a giant speaker and then run her into a telephone post. Will decide that the damage looks cool once he uses matt finish rustoleum paint to touch it up, removes the front bumper, and puts a glowing LED Lambo raging bull in the center of the grill. Will use that cherry fragrant deodorizer to try to get rid of the musty smell from when he left the sunroof open in the rain.

She will never forgive you...
 
In all seriousness, life is about different eperiences and you absolutely can't treat every car like a marriage. Remember her and go enjoy your next totally revolutionary EQS! At some point drop us a line and let us know how it is to pilot a roadgoing starship...Engage!
 
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Some 19yr old with white hightops is going to pick her up for a song, vomit in the passenger seat after trying Lagavulin for the first time, put 21" wheels and 20 profile tires on her, fill the trunk with a giant speaker and then run her into a telephone post. Will decide that the damage looks cool once he uses matt finish rustoleum paint to touch it up, removes the front bumper, and puts a glowing LED Lambo raging bull in the center of the grill. Will use that cherry fragrant deodorizer to try to get rid of the musty smell from when he left the sunroof open in the rain.

She will never forgive you...
"Pick her up for a song...". nope. They priced my old ride at $24,500 on the Honda used lot and sold it within two weeks...they paid me $18,500, so they made up the $5,000 discount on the Accord. Of course, they could even advertise the color correctly, but someone his hopefully driving it like they stole it. Used car prices are truely insane now.

Honda Accord Hybrid Touring review: Magnificent ride, perfectly acceptable acceleration, nice wireless ACP/AA, no Alfa quirks and the dealer knows how to deal with the car and doesn't hate the owners. 42-46 mpg due to the 19" rims, but corners very nicely.
 
"Pick her up for a song...". nope. They priced my old ride at $24,500 on the Honda used lot and sold it within two weeks...they paid me $18,500, so they made up the $5,000 discount on the Accord. Of course, they could even advertise the color correctly, but someone his hopefully driving it like they stole it. Used car prices are truely insane now.

Honda Accord Hybrid Touring review: Magnificent ride, perfectly acceptable acceleration, nice wireless ACP/AA, no Alfa quirks and the dealer knows how to deal with the car and doesn't hate the owners. 42-46 mpg due to the 19" rims, but corners very nicely.
can’t really get any more reliable than a Honda Accord. That car will run forever with general maintenance. That’s exactly why you will
Be back in an Alfa one day. The Honda is a great daily driver. But you will soon itch for that driving experience and fun/frustration that the Alfa brings. As much as I hate somethings about my QV I know I could never drive a boring car. I’m a gluten for punishment I guess. My exes would all agree.
 
Hello all. Just reading your posts and love your loyalty. I'm just about to order a 2021 Guilia QV as the drive and looks are so much more satisfying than the new M3. It's a real driver's car. I can't help but read about issues and I need reliability as this is my everyday driver. I've had three SRTs from FCA and two were lemons and lived in the shop yet the current 2015 has been virtually flawless. Please tell me there are plenty of you out there who haven't had nagging issues. I really want an Alfa! Thanks for reading and listening.
As an owner of a 17 Quad delivered in May 2017 I can tell that mine has been rock solid. A couple of CEL that went away on their own. Discovered that it does not like to be started and stopped a few times just to move it so that can clean the wheels, by the way. The auto/start stopped working but I am not complaining. 17K miles, 3 sets of tires and currently on Michelin, much better that the Pirelli. Still on the original battery. I cant imagine driving anything else that will bring such joy every time I am behind the wheel. It is an addictive machine. I do have the luxury of having two rather competent dealerships less than one hour away, Charlotte area.
 
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can’t really get any more reliable than a Honda Accord. That car will run forever with general maintenance. That’s exactly why you will
Be back in an Alfa one day. The Honda is a great daily driver. But you will soon itch for that driving experience and fun/frustration that the Alfa brings. As much as I hate somethings about my QV I know I could never drive a boring car. I’m a gluten for punishment I guess. My exes would all agree.
Stopping by to visit and saw this…ah, no. I drive a little slower in the Accord Hybrid, but not so much that you’d notice it in my travel times. The Touring has lower profile tires than my Giulia had and corners nearly as well. It is enjoyable to drive and comfortable too, in a way the Giulia wasn’t. Simply put, this particular Honda isn’t really boring, much to my surprise.

The infotainment is massively upgraded over my poor ‘17, and the safety systems are better…but the Giulia still had the best Active Cruise Control of any car I’ve driven. I’ve also visited the dealer exactly zero times so far, and already received a map update (free for five years, with traffic!).
 
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Stopping by to visit and saw this…ah, no. I drive a little slower in the Accord Hybrid, but not so much that you’d notice it in my travel times. The Touring has lower profile tires than my Giulia had and corners nearly as well. It is enjoyable to drive and comfortable too, in a way the Giulia wasn’t. Simply put, this particular Honda isn’t really boring, much to my surprise.

The infotainment is massively upgraded over my poor ‘17, and the safety systems are better…but the Giulia still had the best Active Cruise Control of any car I’ve driven. I’ve also visited the dealer exactly zero times so far, and already received a map update (free for five years, with traffic!).
That car will run forever. Lb for lb best daily driver in price, performance and quality. Enjoy. God bless
 
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