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I think this one is a very unbiased review. I guess unless you get the Ti sport or the QV, the A4 is definitely worth considering.
https://youtu.be/wPFHlggOlJc
Let's see, front wheel drive German car vs rear wheel drive FCA. Hmm, a few years ago this would have been consider Bizarro world.
As for the review the front wheel drive average looking one wins. I will stop right here people.
 
I know, wished they had put in little more on the interior. When you drive around the powerful versions of the RWD Giulia, you can easily look past these things. You are so engaged in the driving emotion of it all. That being said, when you consider the base versions and I don't think they sell the FwD A4 in the US, so Quattro is not a bad option.imho.
I think this one is a very unbiased review. I guess unless you get the Ti sport or the QV, the A4 is definitely worth considering.
https://youtu.be/wPFHlggOlJc
Let's see, front wheel drive German car vs rear wheel drive FCA. Hmm, a few years ago this would have been consider Bizarro world.
As for the review the front wheel drive average looking one wins. I will stop right here people.
 
So would you say the Giulia is more comfortable/same/less comfortable then the Audi? And same for the road noise. If I'm going to be doing a lot of highway driving is the noise/fun ride going to get old and become loud and annoying? ?
I was kind of flogging the S3 so I couldn't really say how quiet it might be compared to the Giulia, but I can say the Giulia is quiet, smooth and quick at highway speeds. Really, in terms of performance, I've got nothing bad to say about the Giulia whatsoever, it's just an exceedingly exceptional car. I guess the infotainment isn't the best, supposedly, but I far prefer it to my '18 Mustang GT's touchscreen when it comes to everything but Nav; I can't stand trying to hit the right button on the screen while the car is bouncing along less than completely smooth roads; I far prefer the Giulia's dial. Again, with the exception of Nav. With Nav touchscreen works best but I use non-Nav functions a hundred times more frequently than I use Nav.
 
I would have thought road noise would be related mostly to the tires (and the road surface) and wind noise the aerodynamics of the car.

When I was shopping around for my previous car I test drive an A4. I found the ride generally ok however there was a lot of thump from the rear when going over expansion joints. I ended up going for a Bmw 435 instead.
Road noise depends on the tires, tire inflation pressure, road surface, and the construction of the car. I do not know what Cadillac varied to do their tests, but if I was doing it I would have altered the sound dampening materials in the car to change the road noise.

Similarly wind noise depends on exterior aerodynamics and the construction of the car.

Anyway, the Q4 that I test drove had the sunroof and it telegraphed quite a bit of road noise, especially on the rough pavement found on Arden Way in Sacramento in front of the dealership. My Q4 has no sun roof and is much quieter on the same rough pavement. On smooth pavement I believe the noise level in the two cars was comparable.
 
5 time audi owner here.
1998 A4 1.8t 2002 A4 1.8T,2006 a4 2.0t avant,2007 audi a3 3.2q ,2009 audi a4 avant 2.0t

I loved all my audis. The A3 was by far my favorite. As audi continued to define thea3, they took all the sport out. They took a lot of nice german thoughtful things out and cheapened it to compete, while also adding luxury bits for an aging demographic. The latest a4 is a snooze.

The latest a3, while still basic isnt any different from the a4. The s3 I was cross shopping is not available anywhere so I couldn't compare it to the giulia.

So why did I go w Giulia? The power, the simple layout, the refined interior luxury. It hit everything I wanted minus the 5doors, but nobody is making a good 5 door. The transmission not as good as the 6 speed dsg from the a4 but better than the auto one in the a4. It's the same as my wife's x3. When I drove it it reminded me of my first a4. Everything you want in sport, still really nice inside, no compromises to get performance. Small company feel to the experience.

Audi lost their way with their sport and tech lean. Alfa is taking their place.

Audi dealer and service also has gone downhill, so I won't miss that. The oil sludge issue, the airbags, the coil packs . Not that alfa wont have issues but I don't want to get insulted everytime i come in with the same issue that I know about to find audi isnt as knowledgable, willing to acknowledge the issue and repair it the first time. Hopefully alfa will do better.

If they bring an awd giulietta here then I will have all the boxes checked.
 
I've had an Audi S4 manual and now have the Giulia. Get the Giulia unless you plan to put a ton of miles on the car in a reasonably short period of time. None of us know if the Giulia will hold up mechanically. So far most if not all the problems have been software related. I like the Giulia on trips (Q4 with adaptive cruise in N mode, don't put the car in D mode and cruise control, the computer doesn't like that and will probably throw an error and set the car to limp mode). Carry a cheap OBD II reader with you to reset the car if needed (not as bad as it sounds, quite easy).
 
I live in South Africa and drive my 4th Alfa Romeo, which is the Giulia 2 litre (in South Africa at the moment the 147 kW version).
If you look at YouTube tests, then you will find that German testers take about three quarters of the time to look at the car, and a bit at the end to drive the car. And it is generally accepted that German cars have better interiors - larger screens, nicer buttons, and so on, so their is a lot to look at.
But other testers are the other way around - have a quick look, and then actually drive in the car. And that is where Alfa Romeo comes in - there are 2 instruments looking at you - a rev counter and a speedometer, both with zero at the bottom, and working area at the top, and the rest of the instrumentation and hardware is for practical convenience, and not to sit and look at.
Comments already made - the Alfa Romeo has direct and sharp steering (the lowest ratio of any production car), brakes are equally responsive, throttle response in D (of the DNA) is immediate, and you have full control over the gearbox in D and Manual. All this needs getting used to - you have to learn to use the controls in order to drive the car efficiently and smoothly, much more so than in an Mercedes Benz or a Lexus, but the end result is satisfaction that is without peer.
By this time you know my thoughts - buy the Alfa Romeo!
 
Audi are not designed for driving fun. They are heavier, They are not pointy, they understeer for the exact reason you mention above. In simple layman terms they put safety first.

They are very well appointed just like a Coach purses and they have amazing tech. I had a few A4s and A6s so I speck from "some" experience.

These days I'd buy an Audi for my wife so that she can safely take kids to places but that is it. For myself I want a Giulia for a family car transporter and one with a badge.

Life is too short to compromise.

But remember that the Alfa Romeo Giulia received the highest ever marks by the Euro NCAP for occupant safety (98%).
 
That could be why the headroom was too low
Indeed, I'm 1m93 (6'4") and I specifically ordered without the sunroof since the headroom would have suffered a lot. 5'8" shouldn't be an issue though?

Anyway - my take on choosing for a Giulia - but not having received it yet (I get it next week).

I've driven quite a few cars, including a rental A4 for a few months. I also owned an Alfa 147, and before I got this, I was actually not that into cars. Back-then I compared it to other hatchback alternatives back-then (BMW/Audi/VW/Ford/...) - and up until the test-drive - I never even considered the Alfa as a serious option. Was the 147 perfect? Far from, but driving it, was loads of fun, although it was a FWD car and actual handling was only ok-ish. The 1-series lost out mainly due to it's very cramped interior, and in the end I was happy it did. Initially I had some doubts about reliability, but over the 10 years I owned it, driving 350k km's - I've had very few issues, nothing really out of the ordinary until the end when the gearbox gave up (also a bit my fault, chiptuned diesel, simply couldn't handle the extra torque in the long run). Overall I was a lot happier with that car reliability-wise than a lease VW Golf I drove for a while, which had more than it's fair share of gremlins. This car made me take German reliability with a large grain of salt, you can always have bad luck.

When looking at the new car now, the Giulia was my first choice, but I did look into alternatives. The A4 however was never really an option for me, having driven one for a few months, I thought it was bland and was nothing more than a device to carry me from point A to B. If that's what you want - go for the A4. It's undeniable that the tech is a lot better, and the interior build is probably better, but the styling was nothing I could get excited about. Other than that it just worked. Personally for me, I could not see this as an alternative for the Giulia. I also looked into the Kia Stinger, which is actually pretty impressive, but there's just something about the look I can't get used to. The 2 and 3-series were also on the radar, but again being a tall guy, BMW's "driver focussed cockpit" feels very claustrophobic, and not something I see myself driving for longer periods of time. The Giulia's interior just felt right, it's driving experience was one of the best, and while the tech is a bit behind, it has Apple Carplay, which is what I'll be using 95% of the time.

The choice is very personal, just go and have a test-drive. For me - that was the moment I decided I wanted the 147, I still remember the moment it convinced me. I had high expectations from the Giulia before the first test-drive after reading a lot of good stuff, and the initial drive was a bit disappointing because the dealer only had the oh-so-underpowered 136bhp diesel available at the time. After that I test-drove a few others and at last the dealer got a 2L petrol for me to test-drive, which pretty much sealed the deal for me.
 
I have had four Audi A4's in a row. The 2018 was going to be my next car. Mainly because I knew what I was getting, and I always got a good deal. This time no good deals. I started looking around and the Alfa kept coming around. Great deal, great sales guy, great fun car. The Audi is a safe bet. Hits all the right buttons. But, you see them all over. Conservative is what I think. Where are you in life? Do you want the same old thing or new and exciting? How about this. A4 equals wife/husband Alfa equals girlfriend, (mistress)/ boyfriend. I'm single.
 
Good morning,
Sooo. The amazing dealer by where I live gave me the Alfa for a couple of hours to see how I feel about it.

I gotta tell you.... I'm torn.

The A4 is so quiet, so comfortable, so high techy. But the Alfa is so unique, so fun, sporty.

What do I do???

Opinions appreciated. ?
Depends if you're a LEADER or a FOLLOWER.....Traded my S 5 for a Quad....No comparison between the two....If you are comparing A 4 to Q 4 Giulia Ti Sport...remember, the Audi is a gussied up VW ...no two ways about it...the Giulia Ti is a detuned Quad, which in turn is a detuned Ferrari....I hope this helps...
 
I think I would be bored as **** after getting four of the same car in a row.
 
owns 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport AWD
Depends if you're a LEADER or a FOLLOWER.....Traded my S 5 for a Quad....No comparison between the two....If you are comparing A 4 to Q 4 Giulia Ti Sport...remember, the Audi is a gussied up VW ...no two ways about it...the Giulia Ti is a detuned Quad, which in turn is a detuned Ferrari....I hope this helps...
A4 is a guised up VW? Come on now I expect Audi bashing in an Alfa forum but there isn't a single VW branded car sharing the A4's underlying MLB platform. The last time a VW used an Audi platform was the Passat from 15 years ago when they used a stretched out older B5 platform when the Audi A4 was about to move on to the newer B6 platform. The Porsche Macan, however, shares the current A4's underlying MLB platform. I love the engine in the Ti but calling the 4-cylinder a "detuned Ferrari" is as far a stretch as calling the A4 a VW, since there isn't a single 4-cylinder, (or for that matter, a 6-cylinder) in the Ferrari road car lineup. It might be based on a prancing horse engine but significant engineering rework beyond "detuning" is required when you lose cylinders.
 
Depends if you're a LEADER or a FOLLOWER.....Traded my S 5 for a Quad....No comparison between the two....If you are comparing A 4 to Q 4 Giulia Ti Sport...remember, the Audi is a gussied up VW ...no two ways about it...the Giulia Ti is a detuned Quad, which in turn is a detuned Ferrari....I hope this helps...
A4 is a guised up VW? Come on now I expect Audi bashing in an Alfa forum but there isn't a single VW branded car sharing the A4's underlying MLB platform. The last time a VW used an Audi platform was the Passat from 15 years ago when they used a stretched out older B5 platform when the Audi A4 was about to move on to the newer B6 platform. The Porsche Macan, however, shares the current A4's underlying MLB platform. I love the engine in the Ti but calling the 4-cylinder a "detuned Ferrari" is as far a stretch as calling the A4 a VW, since there isn't a single 4-cylinder, (or for that matter, a 6-cylinder) in the Ferrari road car lineup. It might be based on a prancing horse engine but significant engineering rework beyond "detuning" is required when you lose cylinders.
^ +1 Uninformed are easily misled by MQB platform that is shared by VW and Audi in say versions of A3, TT, Golf and underpins also numerous Skodas and Seats.

MLB Evo has more in common with Bentley than than Giulia has with Ferrari lol

MLB Evo has only one flaw, engines are mounted too far forward (in front of front axle actually) and no amount of fiddling with rest of chassis will give Audi the handling characteristics of Giorgio based car...it comes however with lots more passenger and trunk space

Also push for Quattro ultra in EU leads to many misconceptions, in US all MLB evo cars (except Allroad) are permanent Quattro with crown central differential and 40:60 rear bias, often with rear torque vectoring differential, MQB cars have different AWD which is very similar to Giulia except that it actually is FWD until rear needs power
 
There is absolutely no car on the road today that drives like the Alfa, whether it be an A4, Jag XF,XE, Mercedes C, CLA, E. I have had them all during my lifetime and , if you enjoy driving, the Giulia is your car. I was on the highway yesterday tooling at 80mph and the sensation is so unique, like you are floati g on a cloud...hard to describe. No other car has ever come close to this feeling.
 
There is absolutely no car on the road today that drives like the Alfa, whether it be an A4, Jag XF,XE, Mercedes C, CLA, E. I have had them all during my lifetime and , if you enjoy driving, the Giulia is your car. I was on the highway yesterday tooling at 80mph and the sensation is so unique, like you are floati g on a cloud...hard to describe. No other car has ever come close to this feeling.
Floating on a cloud is the exact description that has come to my mind
 
Mainly because I knew what I was getting, and I always got a good deal. This time no good deals.
Every dealer I looked at within 500 miles was marking up their A4 sport pkg leases at least $100 a month over what they should have been given the residual, MF, and promotional credits. I thought the slow death of sedans would help even more, but Audi didn't get the memo. Ended up in my Alfa and am HOOKED.
 
Why are we even having this conversation?>:)
 
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