[Boo2boy]

Had to do the rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each. Ended up with CEL when done.

Did a DEL ERRORS from the scan tool for another rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each.

Repeated DEL ERRORS, AGAIN! Still CEL.

Now what?

So annoying!

6500 makes sense given the increased rev limit, but the instructions say 6000. Are these the old instructions for P1?

 

[Racer Z]

Had to do the rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each. Ended up with CEL when done.

Did a DEL ERRORS from the scan tool for another rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each.

Repeated DEL ERRORS, AGAIN! Still CEL.

Now what?

So annoying!

With the P1, if you don't rev it just right, there are CELs. I'll assume that the P2 is the same.

It's my understanding that the revving is needed to correct something and remove the CELs. You're probably going to need to restore the tune back to stock and start the install over.

 

[Tony Bonanno]

OK, the new tune makes a real difference. Can't quantify it, but definitely feel it. I opted for just the dual map with increased speed limiter and traction control. Unfortunately have CEL flashing. I reinstalled the Phase 1 and everything working as before, and no flashing CEL. Carefully installed Phase 2 again. Feel the difference for sure, but STILL HAVE CEL flashing. I'm sure Chris and Toby will sort it out. Calling it quits for tonight (unless I hear from them with something elseo to try) :smile2:

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

Had to do the rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each. Ended up with CEL when done.

Did a DEL ERRORS from the scan tool for another rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each.

Repeated DEL ERRORS, AGAIN! Still CEL.

Now what?

So annoying!

similar situation here.
the tuner kept asking for more revs.
haven't tried del errors yet.

she was fine for the first few miles, but then I got hit with limp mode.
so I can't really speak for the performance of P2 at all yet, but for the Pops and Bangs...
WOW.

you guys didn't do it any justice at all in the video.
the sound is almost everything I could have asked for.
it's pretty difficult to get used to the throttle tap, but I don't even care.


sound clips coming next...

 

[Tony Bonanno]

Had to do the rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each. Ended up with CEL when done.

Did a DEL ERRORS from the scan tool for another rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each.

Repeated DEL ERRORS, AGAIN! Still CEL.

Now what?

So annoying!

Hmm, I'm having same problem. I ordered dual map with just traction control and raised speed limiter (not revs). Sounds like we may have the same tune ? I'm sure Chris and Toby will get on it. I've emailed them. I can really feel the difference though. In D mode, goes like a banshee and I haven't even put any miles on the new tune.. now to get rid of that pesky CEL ..

 

[Tony Bonanno]

With the P1, if you don't rev it just right, there are CELs. I'll assume that the P2 is the same..

I've not had any trouble installing the P1 tune (twice now), but maybe the P2 is a bit more sensitive to the revving routine.. can you elaborate a bit more on how it is suppose to be done ?
Thanks,
Tony

 

[Racer Z]

With the P1, if you don't rev it just right, there are CELs. I'll assume that the P2 is the same..

I've not had any trouble installing the P1 tune (twice now), but maybe the P2 is a bit more sensitive to the revving routine.. can you elaborate a bit more on how it is suppose to be done ?
Thanks,
Tony

Basically, a slow and gentle climb up to red line. If you climb to fast, as in stand on it, it won't clear the CELs. They give you plenty of time to do three revs. Keep it at wide open a few seconds longer than seems safe.

For me, with the P1, I could only get past 3500 during the first set, after that the RPM stopped at 3500.

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

@Tony Bonanno and @ttaidapos

Do you guys just have CELs or are you locked in limp mode like me?

 

[ttaidapos]

@Tony Bonanno and @ttaidapos

Do you guys just have CELs or are you locked in limp mode like me?

CEL + "Start/Stop Deactivated"

My 3 Revs were so slow up/down that it actually took the whole time allowed. With the P2 tune you'll rev all the way to 6,500 and nothing short of it. Enough for the engine to knock.

How many cycles did you guys go through? Mine was 4 for P2 and 4 for each DEL ERROR I tried. After doing that 12 times in total within 30min, it just didn't feel right and the car needed a break.

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

CEL + "Start/Stop Deactivated"

My 3 Revs were so slow up/down that it actually took the whole time allowed. With the P2 you're rev all the way to 6,500 and nothing short of it. Enough for the engine to knock.

How many cycles did you guys go through? Mine was 4 for P2 and 4 for each DEL ERROR I tried. After doing that 12 times in total within 30min, it just didn't feel right and the car needed a break.

so you can still change modes using the DNA dial?

I only did like 2 cycles. Trying "DEL ERROR" now.

 

[Eagle7]

I wonder if you have to return it to stock first, then add P1, then add P2? What are you guys getting for a file to download?

 

[Tony Bonanno]

@JohnnyTheBeast and @ttaidapos

I'm just getting CELs and the "start/stop deactivated"... no limp mode (yet). I can still change modes and I like how it feels in the short time I've run it. I was mapped for dual mode.

 

[mtb.ck]

Had to do the rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each. Ended up with CEL when done.

Did a DEL ERRORS from the scan tool for another rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each.

Repeated DEL ERRORS, AGAIN! Still CEL.

Now what?

So annoying!

dont rev too slowly... In Sept when I reinstalled P1, I got a CEL until I reved in about 5-10 secs, then all was good. maybe that?

Toby helped me out with that,

 

[Tony Bonanno]

I wonder if you have to return it to stock first, then add P1, then add P2? What are you guys getting for a file to download?

I wondered that too. I didn't return it to stock, but DID return it to P1 and it ran perfectly in P1 again. I then reinstalled P2 and had the same results as previously (CEL's and "start/stop deactivated"). At this point I'm just going to wait and see what the EC guys advise. My tune was the dual map with raised speed limiter and traction control. No pops and bangs.

 

[stocki]

Just speculating here, but I'm pretty sure the reving process has nothing to do with the parameters in the map.

I've found something called "Phonic wheel reset" in MultiEcuScan which is the same process (rev to 6k 3 times).

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

I wondered that too. I didn't return it to stock, but DID return it to P1 and it ran perfectly in P1 again. I then reinstalled P2 and had the same results as previously (CEL's and "start/stop deactivated"). At this point I'm just going to wait and see what the EC guys advise. My tune was the dual map with raised speed limiter and traction control. No pops and bangs.

yeah, same here.

I'm sure they'll have it taken care of soon.


How does that traction control feel tho??

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

Just speculating here, but I'm pretty sure the reving process has nothing to do with the parameters in the map.

I've found something called "Phonic wheel reset" in MultiEcuScan which is the same process (rev to 6k 3 times).

This is good to know.
I've seen them do it multiple times on cars at the dealership and assumed that they were re-flashing the ECU or something.

Any indication as to what it actually does?

 

[stocki]

This is good to know.

I've seen them do it multiple times on cars at the dealership and assumed that they were re-flashing the ECU or something.



Any indication as to what it actually does?

That is beyond my knowledge.
Maybe someone from EC could step in and answer this.

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

hahahah throwback to when @Eagle7 was giving me sh*t for wanting P2 months ago...

him: "They're perfecting it so (this) doesn't happen."

me: "It's no big deal, at worst we'll just have to flash back to stock or P1 if anything malfunctions. I guarantee there'll still be bugs even when they do finally release it."

him: "No, EC would never release a tune with bugs. It's going to be perfect. They gave you a date. Stop asking."

...well... that date came and passed, as expected we got hit with the "we need a few more weeks", but that new traction control feature sounded so cool that nobody even cared, and here we are just over two weeks later with the finished product finally released.

Guess what @Eagle7-- It still has bugs.

I'm not at all mad or anything.
This is totally normal and expected.
I just wanted to point out that no amount of time spent on research and development could possibly prevent such an occurrence.

This is why beta testing is important.
There is nothing wrong with working with a few individuals that don't mind experiencing some issues at first prior to a full release rather than having people expect a finished product and end up with this.
I really don't care and even though the car's stuck in limp mode, I'm still gonna drive her. The sound is perfect.

Regardless, I'm sure @toby@eurocompulsion will be able to figure out what's going on here pretty quickly.

I just hope he doesn't need to be in the office to do it, cuz that would mean waiting till Tuesday...
@Dorifto lol, it looks like they decided to wait for you after all.

 

[Chris@Eurocompulsion]

What codes are present? How many drive cycles do you have on the car?