[Tony Bonanno]

I've put about 600 miles on my dual map P2, (no pops and bangs). Not one CEL. All is good.. very good!

 

[moddeR]

How does car handle on turns wit new power and awd?

Very impressive for stock suspension. It is great to have stability control reduced but the car still cuts power frequently when driven aggressively; even with AWD...


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[Il_Conte]

I was able to floor it and get to 6500. I kept reviving there.
YMMV

6500 sounds right as stock limit is 6000.
7500 is not even on the tachometer

 

[moddeR]

Getting better on the same stretch of road (also colder out/better DA than on previous runs) - essentially 13 flat at 104 on a slight incline. Usual 60 foot:

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[beaups]

Getting better on the same stretch of road (also colder out/better DA than on previous runs) - essentially 13 flat at 104 on a slight incline. Usual 60 foot:

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. Where are you placing your dragy? Those altitudes and g's and everything else are all over the place. Wonder if you are getting bad or unreliable signals?

 

[moddeR]

. Where are you placing your dragy? Those altitudes and g's and everything else are all over the place. Wonder if you are getting bad or unreliable signals?

I have a piece of Velcro on the windshield that I attach the dragy or my EZ Pass to. Maybe I need to try a different stretch of road?


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[Dorifto]

Just checked, over p1 i picked up 0.6g on acceleration even with some wheel spin on my open lsd rwd, id say on track should be getting even harder acceleration with much lower 60feet than my 1st run on drag strip with p1 which was 2.05sec

 

[chaadster]

I have a piece of Velcro on the windshield that I attach the dragy or my EZ Pass to. Maybe I need to try a different stretch of road?


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on the windscreen? Isn't Dragy supposed to be level mounted? I find it sits nicely on the center console next to the E-Brake switch, with a bit of it wedged under the arm rest. It's pretty flat and secure.

 

[beaups]

I have a piece of Velcro on the windshield that I attach the dragy or my EZ Pass to. Maybe I need to try a different stretch of road?


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on the windscreen? Isn't Dragy supposed to be level mounted? I find it sits nicely on the center console next to the E-Brake switch, with a bit of it wedged under the arm rest. It's pretty flat and secure.

Mine wedges nicely to the right of the shifter trim. Between that and the edge of the center console. Windshield doesn't sound optimal.

 

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[moddeR]

Mine wedges nicely to the right of the shifter trim. Between that and the edge of the center console. Windshield doesn't sound optimal.

Good to know! Will try it out [emoji106]


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[chaadster]

Good to know! Will try it out [emoji106]


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Hmm, I dunno...what keeps it in place, from sliding and bouncing all over the place?

 

[beaups]

Good to know! Will try it out [emoji106]


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Hmm, I dunno...what keeps it in place, from sliding and bouncing all over the place?

Place it to the right of the shifter, front by the edge of the cupholder, then sort of press down and slide it back. It will sort of wedge itself in place. Don't know how to better describe it, will snap a photo tomorrow.

 

[mtb.ck]

OK, 200 miles Post Tune...

.. and all is well!!

Much like P1, performance took 200 miles to unlock.

But first, a little background on my struggle to get it installed. Went through many attempts to get either of the P2 maps installed... no luck just doing it like the P1 install. No matter what I tried, the Rev process never cleared the CEL. I know how to Rev, with 100% immediate success during the first round and CEL disappearing on the 3rd Rev with Stock and P1 maps.

With P2, did 40-50 revs across multiple installs and DEL events with two shots at standard P1+P2 and the P&B version each. So 160-200 revs were driving me crazy (and it's a short drive, anyway) when Toby sent me what looked like Voodo instructions for one last try.

So following his method, involving battery disconnect, seat belts, clearing the maps off, etc. (contact Toby, I'm not gonna recap his instructions, since I not the tuner) I made a run at P2 with P&B first. Probably missed a step, since I had another fail, and another bunch of Revs (laughing nervously...) resulting in CELagain!!

So last Sunday, made a run at it with the P1+P2 no Pops and Bangs, and it worked only taking 4 revs during the first cycle. Felt exactly like doing a Stock or P1, except the new raised rev limiter took another rev (two limited at 6,200 and then two to the new nearly 6,500 limit. Zap went the CEL, and P2 was online.

Driving P2

First, the P1 N map came on strong early, at about 30-40 miles, and got stronger for the next 75 mile. Now feels slightly more burly than the earlier P1 N map, but probably just my imagination. Would expect a low 5 second 0-60 from this, and I'll find out soon.

Now the fun part, D mode P2. Pretty much out of the gate at mile 20+, it seemed pretty close to the fully aclimated P1 D mode, except at the top of the RPM range seemed a bit meek, without the growling shift from 1-2 and 2-3.

During the past 200 miles, D mode just got stronger and stronger. Did two timed 0-60 runs at about mile 80 (4.82 and creeping on launch, a 5.02). No doubt these number can be beat. In the last 120 miles, P2 D mode has come on like a monster..... almost scary. Unfortunately our weather has been cold and icy, and I've had to drive with restraint for traction reasons. On a short stretch of dry canyon curve to curve, my benchmark speeds were being exceeded by 15, almost 20 mph at WOT between turns. Yikes! Snapping on the throttle mid turn breaks the back end loose, until Q4 magic pulls Giulia back onto the line. Roll it on, no stomping.

I have the Euro+Drive Pedal thingy, which I've pretty much disabled in D mode (turned it down from 4 to 2, but mostly have been running in 0 defeated setting).

Now at 200 miles, first three shifts in P2 D mode, at 5,600-5,800 rpm bark a raspy snort. Power is strong from 3,000 to 5,500, with distinct torqueless 500 rpm between 5,500 and 6,000. Seems like the rev limiter in 1st and 2nd gear get's hit with indicated RPM lagging probably 500 rpm, which is not a suprise cuz it revs up so fast.

Not sure I'm seeing any real changes in traction control on my Q4 when cornering. On the icy roads, I can't swap ends or do donuts, feeling TC and front wheel drive kick in. Maybe the open diff test car at EC can burn rubber, my Q4 doesn't deliver the 390HP to "light em up" like it should with the car weight and power if I'm steering a turn. I never see the TC light come on the dash like before, though. Strangely powering straight only, can I redline with wheelspin. It feels like "hooning" that I did on a 600WHP WRX, where all four corners are spinning, because the car stays arrow-straight. But this is on slightly icy/moist roads. 0-60 launches on the dry feel like TC is intervening, using "Soft" dampner settings, I feel little or no wheelspin.

I can tell D mode is loading more fuel because my mpg 10-15% less during this initial 200 miles. Seems like N mode is running like before with brief testing showing about 24mpg in mixed driving. Need more data to make conclusive observations.

What a wild ride thus far.

I'll put another tank on this P1+P2, non P&B, before I try to load the Pops and Bangs map. Perhaps EC will have a cleaner process, or new Dimsport code will clear up the lumpiness with clear CEL on my car.

Most importantly, NO CELS, NO Codes, absolutely clean running during this first tank.


Happy and getting happier. Ciao Alfisi,

 

[mtb.ck]

Oh yeah... forgot to say...

Bravo Eurocompulsion. Thanks Toby and Chris.

Issues yes -- supported with ideas and prompt and courteous customer support. It's easy when everything works without incident to do good service... P2 hasn't been as smooth as previous releases, but EC has been 100% behind making things work.

Thanks!! Keep up the good work EC.

 

[Eagle7]

@mtb.ck it's good to hear you've gotten it sorted out. Do you have the dual mode map where N is now like P1 D mode?

 

[moddeR]

Hmm, I dunno...what keeps it in place, from sliding and bouncing all over the place?

Tried this instead - essentially invisible, especially with tint.

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[chaadster]

Tried this instead - essentially invisible, especially with tint.

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Works, but rather inconvenient, IMO. Definitely better than having a mount plate or velcro anywhere up front.

 

[Dorifto]

100mi on my p2-p1 (non pops n bangs) only one issue, car keeps getting faster >

 

[moddeR]

Works, but rather inconvenient, IMO. Definitely better than having a mount plate or velcro anywhere up front.

Not inconvenient IMHO - only time I need to touch it is to grab it to charge it. Otherwise my plan is just to have it ‘permanently’ mounted there. Also put a small piece of tape over the blue light.


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