[Dorifto]

like always with my luck, dealer didnt update the software to the latest version for my car even though they did both recalls, and Toby has to do extra work to get it done for my Soft version..

my luck just never runs out lol

How do you check what software the car is running and what is the current version? Id like to know if I need this done before I install p2. Thanks.

Toby wrote me an email, o guess its in the mygfile we send to them
Here is what he wrote to me:
Current software: G500BA90

New software: G522BA10

Keep in mind my car is 2017 model

 

[Racer Z]

Uploaded my OEM file to the portal just now. Going to install the V2 intake now. It's a nice day here to be under the hood :grin2: Come on P2!

 

[Eagle7]

Just ordered the Remus axle back exhaust from matt@alfa9supply; it seems to be the least obnoxious sound-wise of the aftermarket units I've been able to listen to videos of. Hopefully it'll arrive soon and I can join the P2 club.

 

[AlfaAndy]

Before I email Chris-Toby, does anyone here know if they have described (in detail) what the difference is between the new P2 N mode and the old P1 D mode?

 

[Boo2boy]

Just ordered the Remus axle back exhaust from matt@alfa9supply; it seems to be the least obnoxious sound-wise of the aftermarket units I've been able to listen to videos of. Hopefully it'll arrive soon and I can join the P2 club.

We have similar tastes. I just had the Ragazzon 3” resonated mid-pipe installed on my 3” axle-back exhaust yesterday and I’m pretty pleased with the results. Under throttle it’s actually slightly more subdued than the axle-back alone. You can still hear it and is sporty, but exhaust note under normal driving can be drowned out by the radio. Cold starts are still fairly loud, but also has a deeper idle tone. The stock mid-pipe is resonated so I think you should be good with the Remus you have ordered. I think since I increased the pipe to 3”, the matching mid-pipe was probably more tuned to diameter increase.

 

[Pr03MVi]

We have similar tastes. I just had the Ragazzon 3” resonated mid-pipe installed on my 3” axle-back exhaust yesterday and I’m pretty pleased with the results. Under throttle it’s actually slightly more subdued than the axle-back alone. You can still hear it and is sporty, but exhaust note under normal driving can be drowned out by the radio. Cold starts are still fairly loud, but also has a deeper idle tone. The stock mid-pipe is resonated so I think you should be good with the Remus you have ordered. I think since I increased the pipe to 3”, the matching mid-pipe was probably more tuned to diameter increase.

Which brand is your 3" axle-back? Does it has a muffler?
I am looking for an exhaust that has TUV/CEE certification...
I personally like loud exhausts but I am not comfortable using something Street ilegal.
Any advice?

 

[toby@eurocompulsion]

Before I email Chris-Toby, does anyone here know if they have described (in detail) what the difference is between the new P2 N mode and the old P1 D mode?

From the first page of the thread:

- DUAL MAP MODE -
Via programming, the DNA switch can be changed to run a selected map in a specified mode. Our Phase 1 map will be placed in Natural, while Phase 2 remains in Dynamic. A mode will be the same as it is with the current Phase 1. At this time, the dual map option is only available with the Phase 2 map, and only in this configuration. When testing, Phase 2 did not run quite as aggressively in Natural mode as it did in Dynamic. It did not feel as if the map switching convenience offered by the DNA system was being utilized to it's potential. As we release more mapping options later on, this will change.

This option effectively removes the existing Natural mode. If you do not select this option, N and A modes will remain the same as they currently are configured on our Phase 1 map.

 

[Boo2boy]

Which brand is your 3" axle-back? Does it has a muffler?
I am looking for an exhaust that has TUV/CEE certification...
I personally like loud exhausts but I am not comfortable using something Street ilegal.
Any advice?

I have the Ragazzon sport system. Yes it has a muffler. My choice would be this or super sprint. Both made in Italy with 3” piping and both offer resonated versions. You really can’t go wrong with Remus, centerline, or the madness systems either. Just a matter of personal preference.

 

[MJEWETT]

Well... I can confirm that the flashing back to stock then to P2 doesn’t work... as I never had P1. First install was today for P2 with pops and bangs, dual map. After driving around for just about five minutes, car went into limo home mode. Service engine came up, throttle position failure, air start stop unavailable. Can hardly get up to 3mph...

Not sure what to do. Restarted car a few times. Still in limp home mode. I am starting to think it might be an issue with maybe the Dual Map tunes?

Need help please!

 

[Boo2boy]

Well... I can confirm that the flashing back to stock then to P2 doesn’t work... as I never had P1. First install was today for P2 with pops and bangs, dual map. After driving around for just about five minutes, car went into limo home mode. Service engine came up, throttle position failure, air start stop unavailable. Can hardly get up to 3mph...

Not sure what to do. Restarted car a few times. Still in limp home mode. I am starting to think it might be an issue with maybe the Dual Map tunes?

Need help please!

Sorry to hear that! What mods do you have in your car?

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

Not sure what to do. Restarted car a few times. Still in limp home mode. I am starting to think it might be an issue with maybe the Dual Map tunes?

Disconnect the battery for a minute or two.
That should at least allow the car to get up to normal speeds.

I've been experiencing some similar problems, but not since I flashed to stock and then P2.
I'm also running Dual Map with Pops & Bangs.

 

[moddeR]

Just ordered the Remus axle back exhaust from matt@alfa9supply; it seems to be the least obnoxious sound-wise of the aftermarket units I've been able to listen to videos of. Hopefully it'll arrive soon and I can join the P2 club.

That was exactly why I went with the Remus.


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[ParagonBuilder]

Before I email Chris-Toby, does anyone here know if they have described (in detail) what the difference is between the new P2 N mode and the old P1 D mode?

From the first page of the thread:

- DUAL MAP MODE -
Via programming, the DNA switch can be changed to run a selected map in a specified mode. Our Phase 1 map will be placed in Natural, while Phase 2 remains in Dynamic. A mode will be the same as it is with the current Phase 1. At this time, the dual map option is only available with the Phase 2 map, and only in this configuration. When testing, Phase 2 did not run quite as aggressively in Natural mode as it did in Dynamic. It did not feel as if the map switching convenience offered by the DNA system was being utilized to it's potential. As we release more mapping options later on, this will change.

This option effectively removes the existing Natural mode. If you do not select this option, N and A modes will remain the same as they currently are configured on our Phase 1 map.

**** I missed this!
Thought we would have P2 in D and N.
I need to change my sheet to Dual mode!!!

 

[Tony Bonanno]

Well... I can confirm that the flashing back to stock then to P2 doesn’t work... as I never had P1. First install was today for P2 with pops and bangs, dual map. After driving around for just about five minutes, car went into limo home mode. Service engine came up, throttle position failure, air start stop unavailable. Can hardly get up to 3mph...

Not sure what to do. Restarted car a few times. Still in limp home mode. I am starting to think it might be an issue with maybe the Dual Map tunes?

Need help please!

Give it another try. Go back to STOCK and note that everything is working OK in Stock mode. Then load the new P2. Remember to start the process with the engine off (the handheld comes on as soon as you plug it in). When it's time to do the "rev to 6500", I found that if I did it fairly fast and then HELD it at the limit for 4 or 5 seconds and then released the pedal and let it drop back to idle on its own, that it worked well.

Note Toby's comment in post earlier today: "It's important to watch the install video, as Eagle7 says, you will see that I take a hefty stab at redline and don't immediately back down. The communication speed is important, which is why I try to allow the ECU and handheld to communicate with ample amount of time." I added the underscore.

I'm not sure if going back to stock was really the key. It may have been how you "rev to 6500"...

 

[Racer Z]

Reset my handheld just now. Need to warm up the car so I can read the current ECU and start the process from OEM to P2. I'll install my intake today while waiting for the P2 tune to be created. I still don't have an upgraded exhaust. I'm going to try and make it to the driving school (Streets of Willow with AROSC) this weekend and play with the Giulia and the new Dynamic Traction Control. :grin2:

Just finished installing EuroCompulsion's V2 intake to find an email stating my P2 is ready for download. Thanks Toby, I wasn't expecting it this quick.

After supper and a break, I will probably install the P2 tune. This is the Dual Mode without P&B. That almost looks like PB&J lol. You guys and your CEL's have me scared. I'm wondering if it's the Pops & Bangs that are setting off your CEL's.

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

Well... I can confirm that the flashing back to stock then to P2 doesn’t work.

Okay, nevermind. @MJEWETT I'm with you on this.

I left the house a little while ago and barely got a block away before the car went into limp mode.
It was totally fine last night, but it randomly broke down now.
I was barely giving it any throttle.

The car refused to move at all.
I had to pull over and disconnect the battery for a few minutes before I could "limp" it home.


@Racer Z I'm sure you'll fill us in on how the non-P&B upload and first drive goes.

 

[ttaidapos]

Okay, nevermind. @MJEWETT I'm with you on this.

I left the house a little while ago and barely got a block away before the car went into limp mode.
It was totally fine last night, but it randomly broke down now.
I was barely giving it any throttle.

The car refused to move at all.
I had to pull over and disconnect the battery for a few minutes before I could "limp" it home.


@Racer Z I'm sure you'll fill us in on how the non-P&B upload and first drive goes.

Like others said... you have another underlying issue. Revert back to stock and take it back to dealer.

 

[JohnnyTheBeast]

Like others said... you have another underlying issue. Revert back to stock and take it back to dealer.

Wrong. The only person that has said I have another underlying issue is @Eagle7 and I think he's just picking on me cuz I may have offended him a little bit. (sorry lol)


As I've said multiple times before, I have never encountered a single issue like this in the past.

Furthermore, both @Musaabo and @MJEWETT literally just reported back with the exact same problem as me, so I have no idea why you would assume this is an isolated issue with my car.

 

[Hill0138]

I have put a couple of hundred miles on my dual map pops and bangs tune without any issue. I have only had it in D mode and i do pops and bangs every chance I get. I had cels sometimes with phase 1 when i would go to stock and back to the tune for dealer trips. The revs were what always got me. I haven't had that issue anymore since getting used to the procedure in the video.

 

[Racer Z]

P2 Dual Mode installed no problem. Easy peazy. Drove around for about 30 minutes trying all three modes, really liking this. Stopped for gas at my usual station thinking I'd drive around more. After fueling, I've got a CEL and Auto Stop unavailable. I restarted the engine with no change. Checked the fuel cap and hood with no change. Drove home and parked.

The trip home was good. The car (engine) works as if there's no CEL.

The install was my quickest yet. It only had to rev the engine for one set of three and I was done. Before doing the P2 flash, I drove around until the entire engine and drive-line was fully warmed. When asked to rev out the engine, I let her bounce off the rev limiter a bit longer than I liked.

A Mode has more oomph than it used to. Not so much that it's a problem and not enough that I want to use A Mode again.

N Mode is definitely P1.

D Mode is unreal :grin2: I am lost for words, it's that farting unreal.

The bulk of my thirty minute drive was in city traffic in auto-shift, trying the three modes. Cruising at a steady 40 mph and switching modes, A Mode rises a gear from N, while D Mode drops a gear from N.

N Mode is probably where I'll spend most of my time driving, it's smooth with adequate performance. D Mode has tons of oomph right off the line, not much throttle and your moving fast. With more seat time, I'm sure I'll get used to the quick throttle response, there is no need for a Pedal Pro with P2.

I strategically picked a known road where I could drag race my own shadow. Manual shift mode, Dynamic P2 mode. Floored her from a dead stop. She took off like a rocket. I've never experienced that with P1. P1 is quick, but not like this. She felt like the rear tires were slipping at the top of first and second. I did not hear any tire squeal (windows closed as it was cold) nor did the car squirm around. The OEM tune and P1 will cut power at traction loss, this time there was no traction loss and no flashing lights.

D Mode, I could hear the intake breathing even at low RPM. N Mode, similar conditions and I could not hear the intake breath as much. Yes, I'm hearing the intake cause I have the V2 intake now, but, the turbo is working more at lower RPMs as compared to the lesser modes. I can hear the wastegate on deceleration too. N Mode (P1) doesn't really do this (as much). For the most part, it's not that loud and it's controllable. My wife, for example, who drives different than I do, would probably never drive hard enough to excite the intake noises.

I'm really digging this new P2 tune and I really like the Dual Mode setup. Basically: Race Mode, Sport Mode and Granny Mode.
Currently, I have the V2 intake, stock exhaust and P2 Dual Mode, and a CEL. Hopefully Toby can work out the issue with our CEL's.