Has anyone put coilovers on a Q4? What are your pros and cons. I’ll also take those that have put them on a Q2. But not really interested in those that have done it to a Quadrifoglio.
Coilovers on a Q4
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Manual ride height adjusters are a massive PITA and the change in ride height changes wheel alignment.
What is ideal is the KW HLS system which is basically a height adjustable hydraulic spring spacer (otherwise known as a hydraulic button jack). So you set your ideal ride height and alignment and just raise the car briefly for the rare snowstorm or obstacle ... Of course it's lol expensive for a not really good reason though.
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So how does that differ in terms of the alignment issues compared to a screw adjustable spring spacer that is the usual feature of coil overs? With a twice yearly manual height adjustment it should be possible to use a "cheat sheet" to adjust the toe in.
When I drive into a snow storm I am typically driving 60-100 miles in it. HLS is not designed to deal with that.
My Polaris has adjustable height suspension but for the life of me I cannot adjust it. It uses a motorcycle style stepped spring landing. I may need a spring compressor. You know you got snow when you scrape the bash plate on your Polaris with snow tracks. My floor jack has trouble reaching the frame.
HLS is rated up to 50mph (which really means "hey you have less than ideal alignment so don't push things") so it should be fine for a any snow storm where you have to lift the car. Once the hydraulic rams are open and valves are shut there is nothing that's going to wear out from extended trips.
Air cups are similar and a fraction of the price, but air is less optimal then hydraulics.
Using the coilovers ride height adjusters with the spring not compressed is just a cursing match. You need to make sure everything is clean, try to lubricate the threads, and then start cursing. It's also a pain to dial in a specific ride height as you need to work with the car jacked up, make your adjustments, let the suspension settle, and then recheck the ride height... and then restart the cursing match.
Air cups are similar and a fraction of the price, but air is less optimal then hydraulics.
Using the coilovers ride height adjusters with the spring not compressed is just a cursing match. You need to make sure everything is clean, try to lubricate the threads, and then start cursing. It's also a pain to dial in a specific ride height as you need to work with the car jacked up, make your adjustments, let the suspension settle, and then recheck the ride height... and then restart the cursing match.
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thats true on the factory warranty, but i bought a extended warranty through Mopar, and the rules are different
Still illegal. The act is to prevent a warranty from being cancelled due to aftermarket parts. They can’t void your entire warranty because you installed different brake pads than OEM. The act requires that the warranter prove the aftermarket part was the cause of the problem.
If you have witnessed a warranty of any kind, be completely voided, then you have witnessed an illegal procedure and the victim probably didn’t know they could fight that. Go ask them about the Act and if they tell you something different. Tell them to prove it. If they can prove it, then I’ll admit I was wrong.
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What is the difference between the k1 and k3 I have a 2017 q2 and I love the fitment on the stock wheels I am considering aftermarket wheels from ESR in the future
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Hiro and redline make them for about $1000
Whatever works for you. This post was awhile ago. I don't carry KW anymore nor do I want to work at all with intrax and have no plans on a Q4 coilover. We are developing springs instead. Thanks
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The KWV3 would be way too expensive for me anyway the ones I’m going to try. We’re about 1000 for the set. Hopefully that does the trick if not the next step would be a frame stiffening kit. Hopefully I don’t have to go there if you’re working on springs are you going to work on shocks as well, I’ve heard BM. I’ve heard Bill is going to be getting rid of the B6 for the alpha which doesn’t leave much for an aftermarket stiffer shock. Then they come out of the factory. I haven’t driven a 2020 or newer, but hopefully they are firmer and without as much wobble and sway as the 2019 has , and again 30 posts have been invested in my question and not one viable suggestion
Maybe proofread before hitting that Post reply button so people don't have to wonder what the F you're talking about.
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The Hiro coilovers went on my Q4, and have proven to be a good investment. The ride is improved, handling in tight cornering situations is much better. My car is now. almost as much fun to drive as my 18 with the electronic shocks. The most noticeable improvements are no more road wobble, she tracks straight, the front no longer rises with hard acceleration, nor dips with hard braking. she snaps out of tight corners, and adjustments are easy to make. costing far less than the electronic shocks on the 18, they are well worth it if you want to get more out of a traditionally sprung Giulia.
Good info. Hope you get decent longevity out of them.
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you may want to consider Hiro. I put them on my 2019 Q4, and they helped a lot.
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thanks, I'll post something in a year or so to see how they wear. I put about 20k per year on a car, so after a full Vermont winter I'll know a lot more after a year on them. one thing that scared me a bit is the manufacturer recommends putting them near the softest settings when the temps drop below 30 as the nitrogen compresses with the cold. Makes sense, but have not heard this before and Bilsteins are nitrogen pressured and have no adjustments. Will just have to wait and see on this one.
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got the rear ones on, didn't make a huge difference, but no question the car handles much better than stock now. time will tell how well they wear. overall impressed with the quality and customer service of Hiro, regardless of how people with no experience with them feel. My car now drives and handles like it should!
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