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Discussion starter · #21 ·
Good info, thanks. Exactly what I was looking for, as I come from the BMW world where they are fairly well regarded.

However, its worth saying I didn't make the number up, Ideal Race has them for $4,294.95 right at this moment. Unless there is some slightly different variant in the world with the same name.
I have updated the link on the website too. More info there.

Map pricing is what I stated from KW. Likely what you see is unsold or old pricing not updated in many years. That price has not been around in awhile. Last MAP pricing before dropping KW was around $4500+

Correct current pricing for DDC that is 18+ weeks out : https://www.kwsuspensions.com/products/kw-suspensions-kw-ddc-plug-play-coilover-kit-39015001.html
 
Since most of my driving is on bumpy SC rural roads I really appreciate my QV’s adaptive, switchable suspension. And would replace with something like these if someday necessary. I no longer like to be jostled around when I am driving to get cat food. NV
 
Finally!

It took some time but the engineer at Nitron just informed me they are done and have been tested with excellent results. We have been in touch working on this for the last 2-3 years, I am ecstatic these are ready.

Maintain your adaptive suspension with Nitrons elec-TRON coilover kit. CORSA style springs. ;)

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Introducing our Nitron elec-TRON range to the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio.

This post is about the ERS or elec-TRON RoadSport. Using our proportional solenoid valve we are able to calibrate the shocks allowing them to connect directly into the OEM drive select system.

Unmatched quality, unrivalled performance and a cost effective alternative to the OEM system.

Elec-TRON available now in RoadSport, R1 and R3.


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I have a 2024 Giulia Competzione with the Adaptive Suspension. Would this work for my car, or is the Quadrifoglio Adaptive Suspension different than my car.
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
I have a 2024 Giulia Competzione with the Adaptive Suspension. Would this work for my car, or is the Quadrifoglio Adaptive Suspension different than my car.
I think we can adapt it very easily. We just need to adapt the springs. I have already talked to the engineer about it. I will bring it up to the owner tomorrow when I am at Nitron. Ciao
 
@Alfissimo, thanks for updating your website it is more informative now.
Please feed back to Nitron that a range of -10 to -40mm suspension height is not good for road use for an already very low to the ground Giulia. Particularly for a Q4, I would suggest 0 to -30mm or +10 to -20mm.
 
KW has QV plug and play adaptive coilovers for like $4300. What makes these so much better?
Monotube vs TwinTube and Aluminium vs Steel.
Taking into account all the cost of fitting them and doing the necessary alignment, the price is more or less the same.

Nitron also offers the R1 and R3 with extra manual adjustments if you want.
 
First lets look at that price. $4300 is incorrect.

KW DDC mapping price is : $4,799.00
Shipping is $95
So the KW DDC : $4, 894 +15% tariff as they all come from Germany. (Nitron is only charging 5% to cover tariffs)
$5,628.00
KW is also easily 18+++ weeks out for theirs. Nitron maybe 2-4 weeks.

Nitron eRS kit: eRS = $5,345.00 (with tariff) Plus shipping for a much better designed kit.

What's the difference?

Direct development with the QV. A dedicated development. KW lacks in its performance in my opinion. Not enough R&D, or just copy of OEM and made them an adjustable coilover, nothing more. Springs are still weak, shocks are not much better than stock. The KW does not handle the road well, valving is off, it's a mediocre product for the Alfa. They do well with BMW but not in the Alfa realm. I never felt the KW was very good at what it did, our springs on stock shocks and GTAm suspension software is far superior.

Nitron had a a QV in for a good time to develop these, the car was the engineers friends so they could use it for a good time to develop. This makes a big difference vs KW.

We can also service the shocks if ever needed right here locally in the US. I am 20 min. away from Nitron and have a great relationship with them.

The elec-TRON RoadSport coilover kit features Nitron's advanced proportional solenoid valve, with all damping control managed by the dedicated control system. This kit also includes a specially formed spring designed to work seamlessly with the OEM top mount, providing enhanced compliance for everyday driving comfort.

I know the Nitrons will outperform the KW.
I have to agree on that.
@Alfissimo you remember our discussion about electronic vs non electronic shocks... I still believe in the electronic shocks, so as Nitron. I reached out to Curtis and offered my support with logs and data of my Veloce with QV CDCM.
I have to say that they never rushed and really took their time to develop things in order to make sure that everything is done properly.
Curtis was really happy about the outcome of their product when they tested the roadsport.
 
Long post but I think I barely understood why this product is worth it. I read more comfortable everyday driving and that oem shocks are backordered and may not be available in future. Are these the main selling points? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to attack this product, my knowledge of coilovers is limited. Do stock shocks always fail eventually after certain mileage?
 
Long post but I think I barely understood why this product is worth it. I read more comfortable everyday driving and that oem shocks are backordered and may not be available in future. Are these the main selling points? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to attack this product, my knowledge of coilovers is limited. Do stock shocks always fail eventually after certain mileage?
These start as a better then OEM option for only a little more money and offer ride height adjustment, then progressively get more more track focused as you go up the product stack for a bit of a price increase. That is probably the most simple way to explain it. Another benefit is these can be rebuilt so by the time you are ready for your 3rd set instead of buying another set of these you rebuild them for cheaper then replacement

I personally plan to get the street ones as my car never sees track use and the extra money spent would be wasted as I will never utilize them to what they are capable of.
 
Long post but I think I barely understood why this product is worth it. I read more comfortable everyday driving and that oem shocks are backordered and may not be available in future. Are these the main selling points? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to attack this product, my knowledge of coilovers is limited. Do stock shocks always fail eventually after certain mileage?
All shocks eventually fail and either replace or rebuild is a must. There are many factors that accelerate shock ageing (e.g. hard driving, bad roads etc).
ZF recommends up to 150k km for replacing their shocks. So that time will eventually come for all of us.

So at a similar price point you might as well go for the upgraded option of the coilover instead of OEM. See it like that, you don't need to upgrade now, but when you need to replace your OEM you have a good alternative.
These shocks are monotube and OEM are twin tube. By design the monotube performs better than twin tube and manages the heat better (e.g. track driving).
 
I've been following the updates on the Nitron R3 Electron version and have a few questions:

Does the damping provided by the proportional solenoid valve rely on the original car's CDCM, or is it based on several preset values configured by Nitron? If the GTAM version's CDCM is used, will the damping change?

The R3 version retains the high-speed/low-speed compression adjustment knobs. How do they interact with the solenoid valve?

Compared to the mechanical version of the R3, will the Electron version perform worse on the track, or will it be comparable?
 
I've been following the updates on the Nitron R3 Electron version and have a few questions:

Does the damping provided by the proportional solenoid valve rely on the original car's CDCM, or is it based on several preset values configured by Nitron? If the GTAM version's CDCM is used, will the damping change?

The R3 version retains the high-speed/low-speed compression adjustment knobs. How do they interact with the solenoid valve?
The CDCM controls the valve and there is no live configuration by Nitron. The damping of QV and GTAm is different so you will have a different behaviour with different SW.
So far they tested with QV spec, not GTAm. Nevertheless, I think GTAm SW will work pretty well.

There is video from nitron on Porsche and BMW explaining the interaction of solenoid valve and your adjustments. In principle you set the baseline from which the electric adjustment starts.
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
I've been following the updates on the Nitron R3 Electron version and have a few questions:

Does the damping provided by the proportional solenoid valve rely on the original car's CDCM, or is it based on several preset values configured by Nitron? If the GTAM version's CDCM is used, will the damping change?

The R3 version retains the high-speed/low-speed compression adjustment knobs. How do they interact with the solenoid valve?

Compared to the mechanical version of the R3, will the Electron version perform worse on the track, or will it be comparable?

The Nitron Electron valve is a proportional valve that works between 0-1800mA, using the OEM Alfa CDCM it adjust to the desired position which is generated according to Alfas calibration file and outputted in a PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) current, resulting in continuous variation control of the fluid, in other words fully stiff or fully soft and every variation in between, rather than a simple on/off solenoid.

The R3 version keeps the High/Low speed compression, which allows you to set the base point of the damping curve, the electron valve then effects the "global" damping feel as a whole. We've had great results as there is so much adjustment available to the user.

I've not tested the Electron ER3 against the manual R3 on this particular platform, but other users have loved the results of the ER3.
 
Discussion starter · #36 ·
Just a little tour of the New USA Nitron Facility near us.

I talked with the owner for about an hour and discussed getting things done with the 2.0L and Stelvio. They are very very busy right now as SEMA is coming etc... But I think we can work on the 2.0L and stelvio here in CA developing.

My elec-TRON's are on order and I am very excited to have them installed, we will bring the car to Nitron to fine tune, we will have some footage of that later this coming year. Discussing install and adjustment.

I have changed some things with the ordering of these. If those who want R3, we can swap out springs so you can still run OEM top mounts for a more comfortable ride. But we beleive most will be fine with R1 and eRS.

Anyway, we plan to keep working with Nitron and help develop these cars and future cars. The new CA facility is top notch and developing here is not an issue.

More to come....

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Looking forward to your review on the electronic setup. I know Nitron is good stuff, just as good as Ohlins, at least in the bike world that seems to be the case. Very happy with my R3 on my XSR900
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
Looking forward to your review on the electronic setup. I know Nitron is good stuff, just as good as Ohlins, at least in the bike world that seems to be the case. Very happy with my R3 on my XSR900
Will do. I agree with you. Nitron is as good as Ohlins. Nitron is much smaller. I prefer working with them as well.

I will update here when they are installed and time on them.
 
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