@epsonix So good news! AAWireless just released an update today that allows beta firmware 3.1.0. I can confirm AA over CarPlay works in full screen! Navigating the menus is a little wonky, (press left on our control stick to select different portions on the screen, it's weird, but you can figure it out). Google assistant works with steering wheel, but pressing the call button uses the car's phone menu instead of AA.

 

Thx for info. I wish all they will get control working better.

In carplay phone button does nothing (unless call is comming or you want hang out).
Try holding it maybe for a few seconds, in carplay voice commands needs to be hold to get siri, otherwise radio commands go on dhort press. Anyway AA users are bit lucky on other matters, you get aa nav pictograms on navigation. Also you get google assistant in many languages, where siri for polish names is useless- and use of english is no option in real life- although understands english commans with my accent, it has no chances to handle polish place or people names. Luckily waze i use for cqrplay nav has own voice recognition working perfect in polish, and for in car calls i mainly use favourites and rotary or touch.

 

Sale going on currently for 20% off Apple Carplay for Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio 2017-2020

Go get it

 

Looking for factory Android auto not a piggyback system

 

I just got back from visit to ENG-CUSTOM.

They were able to activate my Giulia '18 oem carplay/android auto. Price (including USB modul replacement) was similour to their aftermarket modul.
But I preffered OEM integration.

Bit shoud out to ENG-CUSTOM

 

I just got mine to work! Thanks everyone!

 

How did you go about it? Now get the AAwireless dongle and then you can use AA over carplay and get full screen.

 

Hi all, I tried reading quite all the thread but I didn't found a solution to my problem.... My car is a Stelvio super MY 2018 and I've got 8" Infotainment with software MV-072.001.002. I've got a twin USB port under my armrest. My phone is Samsung galaxy S21+with Android Auto installed and when I connect via a good USB cable I get the notification "Android Auto connected" on my phone. I still can't see any change on the car infotainment... running google maps I can't see it in the car. Am I supposed to do all the procedure using MultiEcuscan and so on ?

 

I assume you have car with factory AA option? If ylso no need for any proxi changes. Note, various carmaker forums had many complaints on lack of operation of Samsung S2x phones. Over time car radio firmwares got improved(probably newer libraries from google included) and for most cases it resolved issues for S2x phones. I recellect from one of giulia forums similar case when user updated infotainment to MV090 and resolved issue.

 

Thank you, I Updated and it works!!! Yes it has AA option that should come with Super options package for 2018 cars.

 

You are welcome - happy I could help and solution was so easy.

 

Dear @epsonix , I read this and other related threads.
I have second generation hardware, all proxy bytes are properly set, apart mirroring bit, which I updated with proxy alignment procedure. The byte which should enable CarPlay is still set to 0x03, therefore CarPlay should be ready to be enabled via witech2.
You wrote that I also need to change usb port, but I do not technically understand this requirement. In fact my current usb hub (usb+ aux) has direct connection between input harness connector and usb pins, therefore no electronic is on the usb hub pcb. Is it there some information source about pcb differences between my standard hub and hub compatible with CarPlay? Is it there any technical explanation about differences in the usb hubs for CarPlay ? Are we sure there is this need to change usb hub or is it just a theory?

 

There is no information about hubs, but most of hubs at least these 2016/17 won't work with AA/ACP - e.g. if you fit such into car with factory AA/ACP, these features will disapper. Only some hubs have officially option code for AA/ACP, but I suspect some without work. I would not though risk activation without proven hub number - at the end, if that is also checked during activation, and if it is reason for fail, then you would have trouble with locked off AA/ACP forever (well, I know the guy who can revert it, but it is soldering out BGA chip and doing not cheap job - hub is cheaper and hassle free).

 

My short story: purchased 2 ports usb, written proxy bytes (align procedure), asked dealer to enable CarPlay thru witech2.

AlfaRomeo Dealer1 answer1: new ETM is required (400€ or more)

AlfaRomeo Dealer2 (main Alfa Romeo dealer) answer2: we don’t do it, find someone else.

I contacted @SniZ and he enabled it by remote, with his device plugged in, in 15 minutes.

problem solved!

I use it with iPhone. Mirroring byte was set in proxy but I can’t mirror the screen. Is it normal?

 

Later I tried to reinstall old usb port but CarPlay doesn’t start. New usb is required. I will never technically understand this fact

 

Later I tried to reinstall old usb port but CarPlay doesn’t start. New usb is required. I will never technically understand this fact

usb hub is carrier of some kind of licens say - maybe even nothing fancy, just setting to allow which firmware in checks to fire up aa/acp. aside, your 6.5 display does not look too good (cracks), probably time to look around for good 8.8 as upgrade ine the same time, especially that carplay on 2nd gen uses full 8.8area.

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AlfaRomeo Dealer1 answer1: new ETM is required (400€ or more)

no, official prices are near to EUR2000 and still all acrivations/hubs required. its only ETMs from say excessive stock sales from stellantis could be significantly cheaper than MRP - I know as once I bought whole EUR palette of goods for giulia/stelvio from Stellantis (including 12 ETMs 2nd and 3rd gen, 3 last MY20 HIGH/NAV/AA/ACP/reversing camera ETM virgins available)

 

usb hub is carrier of some kind of licens say - maybe even nothing fancy, just setting to allow which firmware in checks to fire up aa/acp. aside, your 6.5 display does not look too good (cracks), probably time to look around for good 8.8 as upgrade ine the same time, especially that carplay on 2nd gen uses full 8.8area.

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no, official prices are near to EUR2000 and still all acrivations/hubs required. its only ETMs from say excessive stock sales from stellantis could be significantly cheaper than MRP - I know as once I bought whole EUR palette of goods for giulia/stelvio from Stellantis (including 12 ETMs 2nd and 3rd gen, 3 last MY20 HIGH/NAV/AA/ACP/reversing camera ETM virgins available)

Bigger display is expensive unfortunately. No cracks in mine.

 

Cracks

 

I’ve never seen it. I will better look next time in car.

 

You see it from angle on contrasting colour chabge edges, eg black-white, pink/blue -black, white-red etc. Yours started cracking

 

Very useful and interesting theme.
Thanks for all participants and especially for experts which made possible that old "1st gen" hardware of Giulia (2017, 002.010.043) has AA and CP only by change of a few bytes in the PROXI configuration and proper alignment.
Excellent! Cheers!

 

No 1st gen mv001/002 requires unit/hub change, then proxi then activation. Cars with 2nd gen units but no factory aa/acp are lije you saying

 

I am incorrectly understand, in that case.
Unit/hub are AA/ACP ready device instead of standard ETM device and double USB hub?

 

To activate AA/ACP in car you do not have this you need following:
1.ETM with 2nd generation hardware (to be recognized by original firmware higher than MV051.xxx.xxx, according to some FCA documents MV003.xxx.xxx I never seen such in real car)
2.Update ETM to minimum firmware MV056.xxx.xxx, of course better go for latest MV090 for 2nd gen hardware
3.Have proper hub installed. It is IMHO mistake people say dual hub. I would not say this ever as guarantee. Also some single hubs may work, but I do not know how to recognize these by part numbers (maybe looking inside at PCB?). Really according to ePer spare part system, only these which we can recognize are some which explicitly mention proper option for AA/ACP were dual but newer part number like 2018+ production or so.
4.Modify proxi 3 bytes 115 (hub type), 157(projection mode enabled - bit 0) and 161 (AA and ACP enabled at bits 0 and 1) - all the rest mentioned on forums are not needed and for something else; and run proxi, and allow full ETM sleep so it restarts fully with AR logo etc (say 2 minutes after ignition off and door open)
5.ETM must never be earlier tried to activate AA/ACP in Witech2 (or other tool like Autel etc)
6.Get on Witech2 or Autel or other Launch and active in ETM "carplay offline activation" - if message "Set on" it is success, if "set off" then ETM must been earlier tried to activate without proxi/hub or something from above was not done.

 

Thank you very much @epsonix!
It was summary of a whole theme and I completely understand whole procedure now.
I have only two questions:

• what is the source of mentioned "ETM with 2nd gen hardware" and what is its approx. price (new or used)?
• who could be in charge to make "carplay offline activation" by use of proper software (MES isn't)?

Btw, my Giulia is produced on the end of 2017. Which way is for detection of actual generation of ETM hardware?

 

You either buy new ETM (on top discounts if you have somebody like that around expect around EUR1000), or 2nd hand (EUR 250-350?) and unlock it (here is problem - Stellantis does all not to sell PINs (EUR100?) - procedures are rejected by Italians(or now other countries since revolutions in company?) without reason or with stupid reason, takes months and only sometimes succeed, surelly help needed from dealer to keep pushing so you need rather friend dealer; or a few guys can do unlock of these ETMs including pre-activation of AA/ACP so then step #6 is not needed). I can give you contact to guy who can unlock (possibly offer also of his stock ) 2nd hand ETM and preactivate AA/ACP if not yet activated. send me PM if you like - expecting around EUR700-750 for such unit ready so you only do proxi and hub replace. Bit difficulty is you are outside EU, so Customs come to play, so it would need to be send low value to have minimal taxes in your country (or be below tax threshold if such exist), still though couriers may charge for doing paperwork on this for you.

Normally though, if unit is not actiavted, after all steps 1-5, carplay offline activation needs to be done either on Witech2 tool (dealers have it, rarelly independant Alfa/Fiat specialzing garages) or a few other tools can do also this procedure (not MES, not AlfaOBD), surelly I use Autel IM508S myself for this (and used sister company product Otofix IM1 as well on some stage), I heard some Launch tools also can do this - expected many garages may have these tools, not necessarily Alfa/Fiat, as tools are generic for all cars, and also the ones I mentioned are often used by car keysmiths - so such companies could help as well - you would need to call around your area to find somebody who has this.
In my case, before I had my own tool, I either used one guy who had Witech2 himself - he did activations for like EUR90 or so, and later used a few times local Alfa dealer who I had good enough relations and they charged me like EUR12 for activation (quick job really).

 

According to this AA/ACP isn't too cheap and simple entertainment.
Maybe you warning me on time.
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Giulia version of this chineese 10.2 is with bit diagonally placed display LOL...
No experience myself, in 2019 my friend bought it, it didn't worked in terms of ETM menu, only its own android. He got through seller suppoprt, got to expert menu, set things like support said, no luck, he returned it. It was 2016 Giulia with ETM replaced on warranty to 2nd gen, but he did mistake in the time, didn't set proxi/replaced hub but straight with his dealer went to activation and so locked ETM.

there are also box devices which work with your current display - cost order of EUR300, but there are mixed opinons on these. in my experience, I did replaced a few such units (3 various manufacturers) after 1-2 years of use, as many started rebooting, hanging etc so a few customers I had to install 2nd or 3rd gen ETM at the end.

In terms of replacing ETM from 1st gen. Yes, it is not that cheap. Usually it is best if you have car with either factory 2nd gen unit but no AA/ACP in car config or got ETM warranty replaced and get 2nd gen unit (it was matter of luck, some got brand new 2nd gen units, other got 2nd hand either 2nd gen or often 1st gen factory refurbished and updated). I did activated AA/ACP in number of such cars as well.
1st gen units sometimes have issue of more and more rebooting and not always firmware upgrade helps there, so then there is bigger motivation to get ETM replaced and so in the same time gain AA/ACP.

 

If needed can change vin on used etm.. solution on bench only, tested and no pin requires after 20min as other common trick. I’m in Italy just write pm for other info

 

A related question. Is witech needed from dealer if a 2nd gen head unit is installed and only firmware is updated but the 3 proxi bits are not updated. Will radio function correctly with the newer firmware but obviously without cwrplayI understand the newer hardware is faster and hopefully less buggy than gen 1. would potentially do proxi bits and CarPlay once witech source is found thanks Len