Damn.... Unfortunatly i've seen the advise too late.
Your friend use a solution like ENG custom?

 

Yes. Only other option is different etm but here getting pin in most of cases is problematic as fca often rejects and often you do not onow what you are buying (already locked aa/acp as some did your mistake or in terms of legality since nowadays a lot giulua/stelvios get stolen)

 

Considering dead my etm, what i should have to do have the possibility to activate AA?

 

Ok thanks for tour support

 

Sorry last question... I've seen that peoples that change ETM for an ugrade or similar could ask to FCA unlock code to install It. Maybe could be a possibility to unlock my etm or it's a different thing?

 

Totally different thing, that's just for when you move an ETM from a car to another.
Anyway you are still with hopes, just, instead of tampering the ETM which is now blocked, get the Imperium module from Eng-Custom, which now also uses the original Alfa microphones.

 

@Alex_GenTLe I read you fitted an ETM from a Stelvio. What vehicle do you get on the screen when changing DNA modes? Giulia or Stelvio? What vehicle is shown in the onboard manual? Do you see Stelvio anywhere?

Grazie

 

Hello I found a new in box 50553591 part. Will this work with Android auto and car play?

 

It can, but most probably you will need to offline activate AA/ACP at a dealer. If it was already set to OFF, then it is not possible to turn it ON, so pretty risky. (or buy an ETM from a car that had it. Ask for VIN before buying and check the window sticker).
You will also possibly need a USB hub that supports AA/ACP.
The biggest challenge will be to get the anti-theft code for the ETM. Read this thread back, everything is written down.

 

@Beta Romeo , is there a workflow built out for doing the coding utilizing ONLY wiTech? Appreciate the help my friend!

 

No, because you can't edit the proxi table with WiTech.

 

With witech rather unlikely. You need mes or alfaobd or other which allows diggng in proxi

 

is there advantage to using the MES or ALFAOBD? are the proxi tables/procedures the same on both?

 

Alfaobd on my interface always fails proxi on airbag, so anyway need to finish on mes. Mes (i use multiplexed) passes usually ( random failing modules). Alfaobd has complete proxi settings list, mes only say 20 of hundreds, rest needs to be set in hex edit. Alfaobd diagnostics has only a few modules, mes has majority. In other hand alfaobd has complete list of procedures in abs module, mes nearly nothing and so cant go out of errors eg after critical damage repair. Alfaobd can get keyfob programming code mes cant. There is no perfect tool, my friend who runs independant workshop and does mainly current alfas uses mes, alfaobd, texa and witech as none is complete and perfect

 

standard MES + some proven OBD interface and adapters (blue and grey). Maybe in US talk to Alfissimo, he must have ready sets. But that is only proxi preparation part. Sitll for activation you need Witech2 as last stage (unless some other tools nowadays also can do procedure, but Im not aware, do not follow this since 1.5 year ago I stopped doing any car jobs - too much hassle/phonecalls/emails/FB and no time for such and no fun after nearly 200 Giulia/Stelvios in my house garage). anyway before evrerything you need also AA/ACP compatible USB hub installed, and your ETM must support AA/ACP. I do not know what is your situation, do you change ETM for newer (and have pin code for it), or is your own good to upgrade?

 

Totally get it and thats a lot of wrenching my friend! The details are:

1. Car is a 2018 pre AA/ACP PRE compatible vehicle.

2. NEW Gen 2 AA/ACP compatible ETM is being sourced from @Alfissimo as we speak.

3.New never synced dual USB media Hub has been sourced already and is my possession. Confirmed by @Alfissimo that I have the correct unit.

4. Local dealership is on board to complete the WiTech procedures necessary after MES proxis are set by either myself or the tech.

Biggest question i have left are:

1. Do I only need the pin code for the new ETM OR do I need the PIN and VIN coded in as well? For either of these when is the proper time to input this data (since etm is new) as to not mess anything up for proxi settings via MES?

2. What are the proper OBD to USB cables needed? you mentioned blue and gray?

Thanks again @epsonix

 

until PIN is entered you'll see only prompt to enter "anti-theft code" and "Settings" menu. there will be no sound from radio. PIN is only available from dealer network through online.
VIN should be written automatically into new unit the moment you plug in your radio and turn ignition on.

 

thank you for the info on that! And I assume the PIN code notification willonly be displayed/entered via WiTech correct?

I am ordering a new ETM from Alfa through @Alfissimo and should come with a code I’d imagine.

does it matter if I have the Harmon kardon system or not? Is that enable through WiTech through some setting?

 

in older alfas also car came with codes both for radio and reprogramming code - both on cards. they do not do this anymore neither for car nor for standalone new radio

 

So,

i've short proxi (157 byte) and i will expand to 250 changing 106 from 9D to FA filling 158 ~ 250 with 00.

i've ETM Gen 1 and i will replace with ETM Gen 2 only after proxi expansion.

AA/CP Bytes with right usb module, remote usb under climate control, ETM Gen 2, are:

115 -> from 14 to 15
157 -> from 34 to 31
161 -> from 00 to 03
163 -> from 00 to ?
174 -> from 00 to ?

right?

 

your byte 157 if was 34 I woudl change to 35 as we want to set bit 0 to enable projection mode, but leave others whatever they mean (I see according to docuemntation three is not used max oil temperature setting on bits 2 to 6)
163 I do not think it is any important, but my car with stock AA/ACP had there 02
174 I do not set leave it 00 as my car stock had such and there are rather not any use settings there for prefacelift cars

Proven approach (we didnt risk otherwise) is that USB hub needs to change before proxi and activation (mean Witech activation done as last stage unless you have ETM 2nd hand with already active AA/ACP) for one with number compatible with AA/ACP option, but surelly does not need to change if your ETM is already activated for AA/ACP - mean works on old hubs and likely single USB as well

 

hello all, do you think that by opening a 1 generation etm and inserting the processor of a second generation etm, it can work at least to speed up the system?

 

No, it's a different processor family, so also requires different firmware (and has different pinout)


(newer NXP i.MX6, vs. the old system's nVidia Tegra).

 

I can offer unlocked/tested 2nd gens with aa/acp activated and with support if my posts on this forum are not sufficient. Dab, nav, nav 3d and nav 3d +dab config etms in stock. Nav versions with latest maps. Starting at 600eur + shipping (ue around 30eur) bit up for higher spec etms.pm me if you are interested.

 

Hi. My name is Stefan, I'm from Romania and I have an Alfa Giulia from 2017 (ZAREAECU7H7546723). I want to, somehow, solve the problem with Android Auto. I have a few questions related to your offer: Do the units you offer fit my car without modifications? Do I also need to install the dual port USB for it to work? Does this hub need software installed or does the car just recognize it?

 

yes of course I know this but if I physically switch the processor from one etm to another, do you think it can work? as you see in the photo it comes off with the whole card and it is possible to transfer it without problems.

 

motherboard PCBs are copletely different between 1st and 2nd gen ETMs, 3rd and 2nd gens only look the same (maybe memory size is bit different, not sure what are differences/gates preventing upgrade from 2nd to 3rd gen really). I had once opened 2nd and 1st gen, and other day 2nd and 3rd gen ETMs on my desk. Must have picures somewhere. I never tried to mix processor boards, I had no reason to do so, so can't say more.

 

Do you think trying will do harm?

 

Without at least some level of comparison i would not try. Without i wouldnt risk. Even if things were compatible enough, small/silly setup on motherboard could stop operation or even do misbehaviours or damage. At the end its conplex elecytonics with a lot of things both elecytical and setup which could just get chcanged between 1 and 2 gen. Up to you.

In other hand, there is easy path of paying for proven solution, other guys like me and guy I cooperate with who spend time to get etms unlocked and ready tor sell.

 

Interesting sales pitch

 

I read that some single port usb hub includes ACP support. The following picture shows mine. Is it there a way to check if i can use it with ACP?

 

I read that some single port usb hub includes ACP support. The following picture shows mine. Is it there a way to check if i can use it with ACP?
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This is definitely not good. Although, I think no one actually verified, that there is a single usb hub which works for them.

Is it there any chance that after Proxy alignment and ACP enabling with witech2, the ACP will work by means of Bluetooth connection?

It will only work if you plug it into the USB

 

Is it there any chance that after Proxy alignment and ACP enabling with witech2, the ACP will work by means of Bluetooth connection?