Yesterday I was trying to installed the SGW bypass so I could use MultiECUscan. But the harness was so tightly plugged in, I couldn’t get it out and didn’t want to risk damage. I know there’s a tab on each plug and I was able to get one off but the 12 pin was just too snug. Anyone got any tips/methods of removal that you’ve found will help? Last thing I want to do is damage that wiring harness.
SGW Bypass Installation
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And that picture is taken thru the space just under the steering wheel/column?
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Crappy picture, but I don't see anything that resembles the SGW or any wires going to anything. Could mine be somewhere else? Mine is a MY2018 build date of 06/2018. I know I have a SGW because I ran a scan of the modules and it came back at the end saying: Warning :SGW Module Detected! Active Diagnostics will not be possible on this vehicle..
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Got it. My picture was with the camera pointing down. I have now reach UP and found it, but it's not as easy to see in my car as it is in your picture, there's more wires in the way in mine.
Anyway, I should have the bypass today and will see if I can get the connectors off the SGW. I didn't want to do it until I had the bypass, but I did a little wiggling of the plugs, it seemed as if the smaller plug would come right off and the larger one not so much, but I didn't force the issue. I'll update when I try it.
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Now that I was able to find the SGW module. I had to reach pretty far up there and I was able to unplug the two connectors. I don't know if I just got lucky but they both come off pretty easily, the smaller one came right off and the bigger one took a little wiggling, but it was not crazy difficult like I have read from some other posts....
Getting the bypass on is a little challenging because the wires that come off the SGW aren't that long, and you can't get two hands up there to hold the wires to plug them into the bypass, so you have to do it one handed, which takes a few times to get it plugged in but it worked...
Thanks to everyone who helped me with this, I really appreciate it.
I ran the scan of the modules in MES, the same scan as I ran before that said I have a SGW, and now it doesn't say I have a SGW, so I should be good to reset things.
Getting the bypass on is a little challenging because the wires that come off the SGW aren't that long, and you can't get two hands up there to hold the wires to plug them into the bypass, so you have to do it one handed, which takes a few times to get it plugged in but it worked...
Thanks to everyone who helped me with this, I really appreciate it.
I ran the scan of the modules in MES, the same scan as I ran before that said I have a SGW, and now it doesn't say I have a SGW, so I should be good to reset things.
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So someone can connect to the car wirelessly with the car being off and no key nearby?
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you can get a special pliers from harbor friend that helps with this. Best $10 I ever spent
Finally got around to pulling mine yesterday, pain in the A. Tried under the steering column method, not a chance. So, pulled the knee airbag, four bolts, easy. This gives one the ability to gain leverage on the clips, was able to get the eight plug connector out in about fifteen minutes using just my hand. The twelve plug wouldn't come out no matter how much I jiggled and tugged. Finally had to use a screwdriver and/or angled pick to press down on clip and an angled pick on lip of connector to gain leverage hand couldn't supply, this did the trick! I assumed job was going to be tough since I practiced with my sgw bypass module and pigtails out of the car, even with ease of access I always had to use a screwdriver to finally get total separation, hands alone could never do it. I'd say expect the worst, hope for the best, these connectors are designed not to come apart, very little space to press clip down and no lip on male connector with which to gain leverage.
i also purchased mine with two pigtails so I can pull sgw bypass out through steering column and have great access to unplug the sgw bypass when not needed. Hacking into one's car is an issue with push to start, this has already been an issue with my drivers side instrument panel notifying me of an attempt to hack into my car. Without sgw car can be hacked, I also keep both key fobs in faraday bags at all times.
i also purchased mine with two pigtails so I can pull sgw bypass out through steering column and have great access to unplug the sgw bypass when not needed. Hacking into one's car is an issue with push to start, this has already been an issue with my drivers side instrument panel notifying me of an attempt to hack into my car. Without sgw car can be hacked, I also keep both key fobs in faraday bags at all times.
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Car can be hacked and stolen even with the SGW in place, so I don't really know why you would be worried about it either way.
This was the trick for me. Sitting in the seat and birthing a cow is the only way I could get it to work. Thanks for the suggestion.After taking an hour break—went back out and tried one last time before going to bed, and it finally popped loose.
It occurred to me in the shower that I needed a different leverage point due to the odd angle (the SGW back rests towards the LHD, and you kind of have to pull down and towards you if sitting in the driver’s seat, or up and away if outside the door, on your knees, praying to the auto Gods).
I put my back on the driver’s seat, face pushed against the steering wheel, legs dangling out, reached all the way in under the steering column with my right hand like I was pulling a newborn calf from a cow.
Instead of using my index finger to apply pressure on the tab and pull with my middle and thumb, I turned my my hand clockwise, used my thumb for the tab.
This provided me with more fingers to grip, and I just wiggled a bit and then pulled towards me with what leverage I had and any muscle fiber stretched across my pecs to delts—and boom came out in the first try.
I got everything connected and closed back up. Plugged in my shiny new Performance Logger from Squadra via Alfissimo and all was right.
MES changes today… what I was really after with this install
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@dananton485 Can you please send a link for this tool from HB?
Just curious, because I’ve pulled a hundred or more calves, which is harder? The SGW or calves. A pry bar is a cowboys/farmers best friend when pulling calves! Maybe same for the SGW!?After taking an hour break—went back out and tried one last time before going to bed, and it finally popped loose.
It occurred to me in the shower that I needed a different leverage point due to the odd angle (the SGW back rests towards the LHD, and you kind of have to pull down and towards you if sitting in the driver’s seat, or up and away if outside the door, on your knees, praying to the auto Gods).
I put my back on the driver’s seat, face pushed against the steering wheel, legs dangling out, reached all the way in under the steering column with my right hand like I was pulling a newborn calf from a cow.
Instead of using my index finger to apply pressure on the tab and pull with my middle and thumb, I turned my my hand clockwise, used my thumb for the tab.
This provided me with more fingers to grip, and I just wiggled a bit and then pulled towards me with what leverage I had and any muscle fiber stretched across my pecs to delts—and boom came out in the first try.
I got everything connected and closed back up. Plugged in my shiny new Performance Logger from Squadra via Alfissimo and all was right.
MES changes today… what I was really after with this install
While many have had decent luck with Ali Express, I prefer to buy electronics components from verified good dealers, such as Alfissimo who is a long time supporter of Alfa Romeo and our Giulia's and Stelvios.
Every 2019+ Giulia/Stelvio needs an SGW Bypass. I am unsure of the dates for the MY18 models, but yes, you need one.
If the Ali one specifically says it won't work for yours, don't buy it.
While many have had decent luck with Ali Express, I prefer to buy electronics components from verified good dealers, such as Alfissimo who is a long time supporter of Alfa Romeo and our Giulia's and Stelvios.
Every 2019+ Giulia/Stelvio needs an SGW Bypass. I am unsure of the dates for the MY18 models, but yes, you need one.
If the Ali one specifically says it won't work for yours, don't buy it.
Every 2019+ Giulia/Stelvio needs an SGW Bypass. I am unsure of the dates for the MY18 models, but yes, you need one.
If the Ali one specifically says it won't work for yours, don't buy it.
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To answer this question, no, the SGW is not integrated in the BCM for the 2022 model Giulia, and yes, you do need a sgw bypass.
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