Thread title triggered my PTSD

 

Maybe verify you’re actually pushing the click tab in. I used a stub screwdriver and got it unlocked after spending an hour jamming my fingertips in there!

 

Hey guys, a bit confused here! Does the Giulia MY2022 has the sgw integrated into bcm? Will just a sgw bypass work? I was looking on ali for a sgw bypass, and seller said that sgw bypass will not work on a 2022+ model!

 

While many have had decent luck with Ali Express, I prefer to buy electronics components from verified good dealers, such as Alfissimo who is a long time supporter of Alfa Romeo and our Giulia's and Stelvios.

Every 2019+ Giulia/Stelvio needs an SGW Bypass. I am unsure of the dates for the MY18 models, but yes, you need one.
If the Ali one specifically says it won't work for yours, don't buy it.

 

While many have had decent luck with Ali Express, I prefer to buy electronics components from verified good dealers, such as Alfissimo who is a long time supporter of Alfa Romeo and our Giulia's and Stelvios.

Every 2019+ Giulia/Stelvio needs an SGW Bypass. I am unsure of the dates for the MY18 models, but yes, you need one.
If the Ali one specifically says it won't work for yours, don't buy it.

 

So, when you take the car to the dealer for a service do they disconnect the plugs and temporarily install the SGW bypass to reset the service meters??
Would it be easier to 'unbolt' the SGW from its mount and pull it down to be more accessible?

 

No, it is in no way easy to unbolt the SGW.
The dealer has software that bypasses the security gateway by default. The Bypass just bypasses it.
The dealer doesn't have to mess with it at all.

 

Would it be easier to 'unbolt' the SGW from its mount and pull it down to be more accessible?

For my '22 Stelvio, that is exactly what I did.
The SGW is in an even worse location in the Stelvio than the Giulia, so I had to go through the gauge cluster opening to reach it.

I unbolted it from its mounting location, unplugged it from the wiring harness, and then relocated it into the opening behind the cubby.
I used a pair of harness extenders to plug the SGW back into the harness to normal day to day driving, and then when I need to connect my laptop and use MultiECUScan on the Stelvio, I just remove the cubby, then remove the SGW from the wiring harness and plug in the bypass module.

If I need to give the car to the dealer for warranty servicing, I don't tell them anything about the car, because when they hook up their equipment, they don't know that anything is different about the car. As long as the SGW itself never has a failure, they won't ever need to go looking for it.

 

Thank-you. Another 'road block' for users.

 

Need help please - trying to find the SGW. RHD MY22 Quad. I have removed the sunglasses compartment ( 1 torx screw and trim tool) but i cant seem to see the SGW. Please see photos. Help appreciated. There's a metal box mounted vertically which seens to have some coloured connectors on top but they look small and up very high. The connectors on the far right are inaccessible because of the silver metal bracing strut.

 

Up from underneath the steering column, on the right side wall, you'll find the cables.

 

As you can see there is nothing attached to the right of the steering column. It must be behind the instrucment cluster - interested to know how you disconnected it.

 

Do you think its likely to be these connectors on the far right???

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Just did a search for RHD SGW and found two threads that confirm that the SGW is to the left of the steering column on a RHD vehicle.

This post says explicitly that it is to the left of the steering column:

https://www.giuliaforums.com/threads/what-did-you-do-to-your-alfa-romeo-giulia-today.3994/page-79?post_id=1098877&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-1098877

This thread has a video posted by the same person that show his SGW on the left side of his steering column, not the right.

https://www.giuliaforums.com/threads/sgw-module-location-for-rhd-giulia.65290/

If you view that video on YouTube, read the comments. Someone asks if it is to the left of the column and he confirms that it is indeed to the left of the column on a RHD vehicle.

So on LHD car, SGW is right of the steering column. But on a RHD car, the SGW is to the left of the column.

 

Yeah, who would have even thought the difference between LHD & RHD!? I’m dumb! Thanks!

 

Eureka!! You, Sir, are a gentleman! It seems to be on the LEFT side. Up high. Can't be seen from below unless cables are pulled to the side (and i had to cut a cable tie that was in the way). I can feel the little plastic tab to push in but cant get them out (index finger a bit sore). Will try some leverage etc later.
Again, thank-you!

 

I had to use a stubby screwdriver. Same index finger pain!!

 

Found this info on another forum

https://www.alfaowner.com/threads/sgw-location-2019-right-hand-drive.1212285/

BigjeffukDiscussion starter
30 posts · Joined 2023

#7 · May 6, 2023 (Edited)
Had another look this morning and found it. So here’s a bit of a guide for people also stuck with a 2019 RHD.

1. remove the coin box by unscrewing a torx screw located in the hole where the coin box latches. Once removed pry the coin box unit away from the main dash. It should come away from the tip. There’s a locating pin at the bottom of the unit that holds the lower part in.

2. Remove the steering column shroud with two torx screws underneath the steering wheel. Pry the top and bottom apart. I used my fingers to separate.

3. roll the driver seat back as far as possible and adjust the steering wheel out (towards driver) and up . Kneel down outside the car and look at the steering column through the hole where the column adjust is. To the left side and back from the cylindrical part of the column is the sgw. The harness is hanging down and the ports accessible. In the pictures below I have my fingers in the sgw.

when starting the car after you will get all the warning. Ignore. Rotate full lock left then full lock right. Return wheel to centre and switch engine off. Wait 30 seconds and start. I more errors


You Could get away without removing the coin box but it helped me when looking and feeling.
If you have small wrists you could also get your hand in without removing the shroud. I can just buy for the sake of 2 screws and lacerating my wrists it’s easier to take off.

 

something like these help - Right hand up through coin box with 'pliers'. Left hand guiding them from under steering wheel.

 

I did, it just seems like the release on the bigger connector doesn’t want to release no matter what I do, and I’m a little terrified of breaking it 😂

 

If you're not in a rush, maybe end of April will be looking better to meet up. Though, no promises I could help...and I won't be responsible if something breaks.

I do recommend getting 2 pairs of the extension cables, 2 for each connector for the SGW bypass. This way you don't have to worry about reaching so far up into the column to install/remove the bypass. I got these: Extension Leads (for SGW Bypass)-Pair (10"/18" Length)

 

I’m having exact same “problem”. Please tell me that you found some good solution

 

I literally just sucked up the pain and pulled it out. My finger hurt for like 4 days.

 

Thanks a lot for a reply! I’ll try to do that.

 

I just installed mine today (Giulia 2.0 from 2023). Fingers still hurt

Do you guys drive with the bypass installed? I drove around for 20 min and everything was just fine.

The iOS Alfa app still works as before. Multiecuscan worked great to reset interval. Any reason to unplug it?
Thanks!

 

I unplug it if it's not needed. It's easier to add it in when needed with the extension cables.

 

Whether you should leave the SGW in place depends on the relationship with your dealer.
My tech at the dealership knows it is installed; he installed it for me.

I have had MOPAR extended warranty repairs (e.g., sunroof cable, oil pump solenoid, etc.), performed on the car after SGW was installed without any hassle.

I could see if you were using MES on the car and something happened where the car had to be towed in, and the dealership wasn't a dealership you patronized, where there might be an issue. As @WoodmanMN said, "I have seen no reports of any warranty work denied for having one installed." It's a gray area.

 

Yes, the classic "I am cool with the dealer so they turn an blind eye to my mods" reply.

No offense, but I have been reading that reply for decades(literally) in every "can a mod void a extended warranty?" thread in every forum I have been part of.

There are always members bragging about how their local dealer is cool and even installed the aftermarket mods whether is was an air intake or upgraded turbo. However, in the real world(for most owners) most dealers are not that "cool" and will report the modification to the extended warranty company who may or may not foot the bill if an major repair is needed based on the modification.

 

Well, the thing is I don’t have warranty anymore (only 2 years is transmissible in Germany) so I have no worries regarding the dealers.

I was wondering more if I could be causing any type of problems for the car by leaving it there.

 

No engine related issues should occur by keeping it installed full time.