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Good night, good night! Parting is such sweet sorrow.

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15K views 78 replies 30 participants last post by  radosuaf  
#1 ·
Tomorrow the Giulia is being traded-in, after a 46 month adventure. I’m simply not willing to deal with the costs and frustrations of ownership outside of warranty coverage, given the litany of component failures my early ‘17 has experienced. I’ve been lucky to have two dealerships within 45 minutes, but have found myself ping-ponging between them as managers, advisors and staff change. While the dealerships generally attempt to provide good service, Alfa Romeo USA (read as FCA) cripples their efforts with poor parts stock and supply, an idiotic parts system that demands a VIN and then often delivers the incorrect part anyway, and slow approval of warranty parts replacement.

The overall quality of Alfa Romeo seems comparable with most mainstream vehicles, and I fully understand my case was on the extreme end, but the costs of parts if I was out of warranty are breathtaking. Normal service at Alfa dealers is an exercise in cost containment, as they seek to maximize revenue. Software support for the ’17’s and early ‘18’s has now almost completely stopped, and the repeated unfulfilled promises on ACP and AA were a bitter pill. The navigation map fiasco , still continuing, was just a minor example of FCA’s failure to respect owners expenditures for a navigation system that was near useless.

The vehicle is itself is an absolute joy to drive, but the intrusive traction control and stability programs on the 2.0 kill some of the fun. Turbo lag is something you become accustomed to, but is clearly excessive versus competitive vehicles. The Giulia eats tires like candy, no matter how you police alignment and wear. The low front end is a self own waiting to happen, poorly designed for modern driving.

Would I buy it again, yes! Is it the best car I’ve ever owned, no. With a manual transmission, and a little FCA support, this car could be a world beater, and I will miss her. She was everything my old Acura TSX 6-speed could have been with a better engine.

Stay safe, and keep enjoying the ride!
 
#60 ·
I was being facetious...

but generally speaking, in M&A, there is never ever a merger of equals. Never. It's just a sham to not piss off one or other set of shareholders. Who is the losing side becomes evident in about 12-15 months.

That said, no matter who buys who or what and when, Stellantis is likely headed for more than one bankruptcy in the next 10 years. When we look back at this in say 2030, we'll see a company with maybe 5 brands under it total, if lucky.
 
#61 ·
Sorry to see you go. And sorrier too that you had so many problems. I have a friend with a 2017 Giulia and he too has had problems. I have a 2018 Stelvio and a 2019 Giulia Quad. We've had zero problems with both, and Stelvio is on original tires. I swapped out the stock pirelli tires after 10K on the Quad, because I prefer the Pilots for foul weather traction. We've had no service issues thus far. I've owned many German cars, including 3 Porsches, and 3 Mercs, and an Audi. Had to do repairs on all three while still under warranty. Maintenance on the Porsche is extremely expensive with lousy service too. So for a high end European car Alfa is no worse.
 
#64 ·
12 days from lease end, my car threw a check engine and start/stop-disabled sign. I'm guessing the battery is going, but I'm going to get the car taken to the nearest dealer, if I can find an appointment. WTF. First the bumper, now this? All in a car I've leased close to 2 years and put 27K miles on including 2 absolutely trouble free 3day/3,000 mile drives. Breathe...
 
#72 ·
Some 19yr old with white hightops is going to pick her up for a song, vomit in the passenger seat after trying Lagavulin for the first time, put 21" wheels and 20 profile tires on her, fill the trunk with a giant speaker and then run her into a telephone post. Will decide that the damage looks cool once he uses matt finish rustoleum paint to touch it up, removes the front bumper, and puts a glowing LED Lambo raging bull in the center of the grill. Will use that cherry fragrant deodorizer to try to get rid of the musty smell from when he left the sunroof open in the rain.

She will never forgive you...