I've uploaded my tune request, but need to capture my stock map. Received the handheld last week and just tried to capture the stock map this morning.

Work/Abarth is all I see. No Giulia. Handheld and My Genius Client are both updated. Thoughts?

 

Contact EC directly via email.

 

Man...so when you say, EC, that Pops & Bangs doesn’t sound good with a muffler, would that be true for the Remus Axle-back system as well? I totally get the proper, raw sound of P&B on “race” pipes, but do you think the Remus AB would even burble if not bang?

 

I think it will burble. I've seen this muffler in person, it's not nearly as restrictive as the stock unit. So you will get some sounds, they may just sound a bit different from what we show in the video.

 

Is it possible that:

A - stock Natural

N - P1

D - P2

??

 

A mode will be better than it is stock. P1 in natural is very drivable in a stock manner when in automatic mode. We are going to leave the configuration for dual map mode as I have described it previously.

 

Can't wait to hear back from people's P2 results/opinions! Especially those who jumped from stock and straight into P2 while skipping P1.

 

Is it possible to have P2 only? Would there be a difference in performance between P2 in N mode and D mode? So essentially A mode would be what it is now, and both N and D would be P2?

 

P2



Yes. My understanding from talking to Toby was that if you ask for P2 only (not Dual Map) you will get:

D = Phase 2 with the Dynamic Traction setting
N = Phase 2 with normal traction controls
A = Slightly modified A mode (same that we got on Phase 1 tune)
Pops and Bangs (if you paid the add-on)

Dual map:

D = Phase 2 with the Dynamic Traction setting
N = Phase 1 with normal traction controls
A = Slightly modified A mode (same that we got on Phase 1 tune)
Pops and Bangs (if you paid the add-on)

 

Anyone received their P2 map yet? Just curious if they will start rolling out today. I know EC is probably getting bombarded with requests and questions.

 

Just flashed the phase 2. I may have just burned up my cat playing with the pops and bangs a thousand times lol. It sounds so badass with the catback

 

How's the performance difference compared to P1?

 

I haven't left the driveway yet. I was in the middle of something when i got the tune so i uploaded it real quick. Then revved a thousand times lol. Will be driving it shortly.

 

Which exhaust do you have? Corsa, Remus, or ???

 

Corsa and v2 intake

 

I'm on my way as we speak. Stay tuned.

My Setup:
-V1+BMC Filter
-Custom Muffler Delete 2.5"

Tune:
-N Mode=P1
-D Mode=P2 + Dynamic Traction Option

Note: No popping and banging

 

Had to do the rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each. Ended up with CEL when done.

Did a DEL ERRORS from the scan tool for another rev to 6,500 4 cycles, 3 times each.

Repeated DEL ERRORS, AGAIN! Still CEL.

Now what?

So annoying!

 

Just got my notification that my tune is ready. Starting the install now... will keep you posted .. YAY !

 

Ditto!!


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Who will serve us Donuts (Video) first?

 

Can anyone tell me if I do not need to buy the pedal pro if I buy the tune? I don't want to waste money on the pedal pro if I do not need it. Lol

 

Wait until you have some seat time before making the next desicion. You can always buy it later.

I don't have the P2 yet, but with the P1 I haven't had any reason to buy a pedal pro.

 

First drive just completed. The car has a totally different feel. Acceleration is smooth and effortless. Roads are wet so i am limited on what i can do but there is a very noticeable difference from phase 1 tune.

 

Does P1 feel any different? I got the impression he tweaked some of the features of P1 based on what he learned on P2.

 

The response is even better with phase 2 so the pedal pro is probably not needed.

 

Got everything working and just uploaded my files to the portal!

 

OK, the new tune makes a real difference. Can't quantify it, but definitely feel it. I opted for just the dual map with increased speed limiter and traction control. Unfortunately have CEL flashing. I reinstalled the Phase 1 and everything working as before, and no flashing CEL. Carefully installed Phase 2 again. Feel the difference for sure, but STILL HAVE CEL flashing. I'm sure Chris and Toby will sort it out. Calling it quits for tonight (unless I hear from them with something elseo to try) :smile2:

 

@Tony Bonanno and @ttaidapos

Do you guys just have CELs or are you locked in limp mode like me?

 

CEL + "Start/Stop Deactivated"

My 3 Revs were so slow up/down that it actually took the whole time allowed. With the P2 tune you'll rev all the way to 6,500 and nothing short of it. Enough for the engine to knock.

How many cycles did you guys go through? Mine was 4 for P2 and 4 for each DEL ERROR I tried. After doing that 12 times in total within 30min, it just didn't feel right and the car needed a break.

 

I wonder if you have to return it to stock first, then add P1, then add P2? What are you guys getting for a file to download?

 

I wondered that too. I didn't return it to stock, but DID return it to P1 and it ran perfectly in P1 again. I then reinstalled P2 and had the same results as previously (CEL's and "start/stop deactivated"). At this point I'm just going to wait and see what the EC guys advise. My tune was the dual map with raised speed limiter and traction control. No pops and bangs.

 

@JohnnyTheBeast and @ttaidapos

I'm just getting CELs and the "start/stop deactivated"... no limp mode (yet). I can still change modes and I like how it feels in the short time I've run it. I was mapped for dual mode.

 

Just speculating here, but I'm pretty sure the reving process has nothing to do with the parameters in the map.

I've found something called "Phonic wheel reset" in MultiEcuScan which is the same process (rev to 6k 3 times).

 

This is good to know.
I've seen them do it multiple times on cars at the dealership and assumed that they were re-flashing the ECU or something.

Any indication as to what it actually does?

 

hahahah throwback to when @Eagle7 was giving me sh*t for wanting P2 months ago...

him: "They're perfecting it so (this) doesn't happen."

me: "It's no big deal, at worst we'll just have to flash back to stock or P1 if anything malfunctions. I guarantee there'll still be bugs even when they do finally release it."

him: "No, EC would never release a tune with bugs. It's going to be perfect. They gave you a date. Stop asking."

...well... that date came and passed, as expected we got hit with the "we need a few more weeks", but that new traction control feature sounded so cool that nobody even cared, and here we are just over two weeks later with the finished product finally released.

Guess what @Eagle7-- It still has bugs.

I'm not at all mad or anything.
This is totally normal and expected.
I just wanted to point out that no amount of time spent on research and development could possibly prevent such an occurrence.

This is why beta testing is important.
There is nothing wrong with working with a few individuals that don't mind experiencing some issues at first prior to a full release rather than having people expect a finished product and end up with this.
I really don't care and even though the car's stuck in limp mode, I'm still gonna drive her. The sound is perfect.

Regardless, I'm sure @toby@eurocompulsion will be able to figure out what's going on here pretty quickly.

I just hope he doesn't need to be in the office to do it, cuz that would mean waiting till Tuesday...
@Dorifto lol, it looks like they decided to wait for you after all.

 

Geez I'm sorry you guys are having these issues, but this is what happens when a developer is under pressure to release software, whether it's something like this or a game. Having done beta testing for years, I know how difficult it can be to track down a bug. The key is always being able to figure out how to reliably reproduce it so the programmer can figure out what to do to fix it. Sometimes that can be ridiculously difficult on a bug that appears to be random.

The issue with beta testing software that modifies a car's performance is the liability. The potential for damage is considerable and so is the cost depending on what might be damaged. I well understand Toby's desire to iron out any and every bug he could find. I mean look at what the factory has had to do to find and fix issues in the original software, and that's a factory team. Toby is by himself as far as I know. He's done a fantastic job so far, and I too have every confidence he'll get this sorted out. It may come down to some of you having to send in your ECU so he can see exactly what's going on. With all these regional versions the factory issues, even though it's supposed to be the same update i.e. T57, UA4, it wouldn't be surprising if there are variants that Toby hasn't seen yet.

 

What codes are present? How many drive cycles do you have on the car?

 

Check Engine, Service Throttle, and Change Oil Pop-Up.
Full Limp Mode.

I've done at least two dozen drive cycles.

 

Codes if possible.