The greatest help at this stage I could wish for would be if anyone with early QV equipped with Sparco seats for the United States market could let me know the value of Byte 84 they are seing in Proxi + picture of pinout of those seats connectors (driver and passenger)

 

i retrofitted sparcos in my giulia but that is through putting a comfort seat harness into the sparco seat so that the CSWM still stays attached plugged in and no errors or flashing odometer, my stelvio has sparcos from factory but im not sure i can access the proxi settings since i dont have cables

 

Interested in this as I have in storage 2 EMEA Sparco seats in the US that I'd like to sell.

I can take pictures of US Sparco seats connectors later today.

 

what stitching color ?

 

If it came with Sparcos from the factory then no, they're not wired for the comfort module.

 

So if Sparcos don't come equipped with seat track position sensors and comfort seat module it means they are not necessary for the airbag system to operate.
Has anyone managed to make this conversion work other way then fitting sensors and wires but coding it out in e.g using MES?

 

The comfort module is definitely not needed for the airbags. If it’s missing, all that’s going to happen is that the odometer will flash at you.

 

Is there still chance You might take/post pictures of those connectors before the seats sell?

 

If only that... In my case the wants to see seat track position sensors which when it's missing results in permanent Airbag fault light

 

do you still need a picture of the pins for the US sparco seat?

 

Hi, Yes I desperately need it.

As proven in the thread below this should be a PnP swap only needing Proxi alignment but it's not in my case

(3) Carbon Sparco Seat Swap w QV Comfort Seats | Alfa Romeo Giulia Forum

In order to identify where the problem might be Pinout of seat connectors as well as Proxi table off of the car with factory installed Sparcos would be super useful.
I'd be over the moon if someone could take those 2 pics and perhaps a proxi table.

 

Ok sorry it took a while. Those are the connectors for my US Sparco seats, the driver side has been modified to accept a comfort module.

Driver side:

Passenger side:

If it’s not clear from the pictures:

 

Thank You very very much.
This pretty much explains all the differences between NAFTA and EMEA Sparcos.
The question remains the mounting interface between the seat position sensor and the seat rail.

It's the last missing puzzle here.

 

On the Comfort seats they’re mounted differently on each seat.

driver side

Passenger side:

 

@Attylla you could buy a US wiring harness for the seats, they're around $50 on eBay. Seat position sensors are around $20. I'm not sure how to mount the sensors to the seats though.

 

That's exactly what I did.
To be able to fabricate those sensor mounts I need a clear picture of how they look like on Sparcos

 

That’s the only picture I have from underneath a US Sparco seat. Not very useful.

 

@Attylla, did you make any progress? I'm wondering if there are parts number for the brackets. Did you solve the belt buckle side of the issue?

 

I did buy both US market under seat harnesses L+R and seat frames off of the comfort seats. It will however take some time before this gets delivered (I'm based in Europe)
When I complete the task and make them work I will report here so that next person attempting this has a much easier life then me.

 

ok. to add some information because this thread interest me.

i have a my2018 giulia, originally came with comfort seats, i got my hand brand new sports seats, from italy, MY24 so should be EU specs, but i got some issues when putting them in the car:

lost easy entry and seat memories. plus when my passenger seat and buckle up it chimes and i have the instrument led that light up, and not if she remove the belt.

i tried to find information and it looked like the seats are equipped like US specs. i think reading your thread that the best course of action would be to uncover the harness below to see which pins are seatbelt on both EU and US specs for passengers and driver side.

i don’t have my giulia for 2 weeks, but after that i can have a look.

 

@Alfissimo do you happen to know, or able to find out, if we can order the brackets that hold the seat occupancy sensors as separate pieces?

 

I've already asked. Not possible

 

Ah my bad, sorry and thanks!

 

I am curious how this will all turn out, so please keep us updated! I just picked up Opportun's EMEA seats, so I am in the same boat. Please keep us updated with your progress once the harnesses and parts arrive.

 

Parts have now arrived.
I get down to work on Monday.
I'll report soon

 

i’d be happy to know the wiring of passenger seatbuckle switch difference between US and EU 🫡

 

Ok so I've managed to finish the passenger side today.
Seat buckle are pin 15 green wire and pin 16 white wire. Their color and location are 100% identical in both US and EU Spec.
In case of the passenger seat the only difference between EU and US Sparcos is the presence of crash sensors mounted to the seat rail.
These are pin 20 orange wire and pin 21 black/pink wire

I've reproduce the original mounts

Wired the sensor harness into the main seat harness

These are the sensor pins 20 and 21 missing in EU Spec Sparcos

and voila, that is the passenger seat done
Now I'll be attempting to tackle driver's side with intention to add the CSWM module which should allow me to keep the steering wheel heating.
More to come...

 

Ok so I've managed to finish the passenger side today.
Seat buckle are pin 15 green wire and 16 white wire. They are 100% identical in both US and EU Spec.\
So in case of the passenger seat the only difference between EU and US Sparcos is the presence of Crash sensors mounted to the seat rail.
These are pin 20 - orange wire and pin 21 black/pink wire

happy for you that you could get this but this is looking strange on my side. that does not explain why my seat buckle is not seen as it should 😭

 

Awesome work and thank you for the information! Patiently waiting on the drivers seat. I will hold any questions I may have until you get finished with everything.

 

My harnesses and parts will arrive in the next few days. Let me know how those driver seat modifications go. I know those should be a little more complex than the passenger. Attylla do you think you'll be getting around to it this week?

 

I believe I should finish by the end of the week

 

@Attylla, @Evosabe, that's so great to see that you folks are getting this working!