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I first drove an Alfa in 1978, a Sprint Veloce - Alfetta GT that my Brother owned. I really loved the uniqueness of the car and the way it drove. At 17 I was not in a position to buy one and when the car was sold a year later my bro had to use it as a trade to get his crappy Peugeot ...... Probably didn't want his little brother enjoying his car that "needed so much work to keep running right". Anyway after my rusted out 73 Mustang went to the junkyard and I bought a 83 Escort EXP which even with a European XR3 suspension was the worst car I ever had anything to do with. Teaches you to do a head gasket in no time though! So in 88 I got my first Alfa; a lightly used 87 Milano Verde with just 11 K-miles on the clock. I enjoyed her until there were about 145K on the meter. Then I got a GTV6 and a 164L in 2015 and 2016. I fixed up the 164 and added 65K more great miles to it. I have only driven the GTV6 about 10K miles but what I really noticed was the similarity in handling characteristics to the Giulia. I noticed it as soon as I had a test drive, that perfect weight distribution and lack of body roll in corners. The Giulia maintains the classic Alfa handling in a beautiful modern design. I doubt I will change brands anytime soon!
 

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BMW drove me to Alfa :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Had always had BMW M cars since my first 1989 E30 M3,..had each gen of M3...get to the F80 M3, loved the styling etc etc., but the drive:( was very disappointing than my E92 M3 V8, even though it was a better car from performance metrics. Start looking around for a replacement, drove AMG & Audi, meh left me cold. Decided maybe it's time for a Porsche. Then my son says Alfa is coming back to the USA with a Halo Sports Sedan called the Quadrifoglio.
I have two dealer options nearby: 1 is a FIAT/ALFA/JEEP dealer (where I bought) the other is a very high end dealer ALFA/MASERATI/FERRARI plus many others (where I service).
Left a $1k deposit to be on "the list" for MSRP waited a year & a half, never looked back.
 

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I have only driven the GTV6 about 10K miles but what I really noticed was the similarity in handling characteristics to the Giulia. I noticed it as soon as I had a test drive, that perfect weight distribution and lack of body roll in corners. The Giulia maintains the classic Alfa handling in a beautiful modern design. I doubt I will change brands anytime soon!
Love it! It's truly amazing how consistent Alfa Romeo has been across this particular point...for such a long time. Honestly one of the most evident strengths any brand has at the moment, Alfa Romeo and their handling experience
 
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BMW drove me to Alfa :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Had always had BMW M cars since my first 1989 E30 M3,..had each gen of M3...get to the F80 M3, loved the styling etc etc., but the drive:( was very disappointing than my E92 M3 V8, even though it was a better car from performance metrics. Start looking around for a replacement, drove AMG & Audi, meh left me cold. Decided maybe it's time for a Porsche. Then my son says Alfa is coming back to the USA with a Halo Sports Sedan called the Quadrifoglio.
I have two dealer options nearby: 1 is a FIAT/ALFA/JEEP dealer (where I bought) the other is a very high end dealer ALFA/MASERATI/FERRARI plus many others (where I service).
Left a $1k deposit to be on "the list" for MSRP waited a year & a half, never looked back.
It's crazy how so many of us were in the same boat of looking elsewhere (my example being Audi and Tesla), being left cold with the test drive and/or suddenly being told to consider Alfa by someone else...and then immediately hooked once you realize it's possible. I never considered Alfa Romeo an option (which speaks to the lack of targeted marketing in the US), until I was randomly told.

Led me to do research over the course of the next year and just couldn't decide against Alfa after the test drive. Audi and Tesla were this close to having me, and now I'm likely with Alfa for the unforeseen future.
 
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My collision repair man brought me to the Giulia. I had heard of it and read about the QV but that was out of my price range. Plus the reliability issues turned me off. I have to drive some for work so put a lot of miles on my cars.

Anyway, I have been alternating between BMW and Infiniti for the past 18 years and tried to get back in a WRX when the pandemic started (had one when they first came to US) and got a car from a dealer long distance and it had aftermarket exhaust from manifold back so was disqualified from warranty. Returned it and ended up in an F22 BMW instead and, while I like the turbo 4 f22 it just didn't have the feel of the old E cars I had owned. They were magic in the turns like this car.

Anyway, I had a fender bender back in the spring of 21 and my collision guy had a Giulia and he had always been a BMW guy and raved about it. He is an immigrant from Bosnia and a big european car enthusiast. That got my attention but I wasn't ready to change up my little F22 yet.

Fast forward to this spring and my son, who I had given my last car, a 2013 Infiniti G37S coupe, turned right from the left lane in front of someone and totaled the car. I went to see my collision guy about it and now he had a Stelvio and his brother had the Giulia. Once again he raved about it and also said he had gotten it recently below MSRP! I had been searching for a manual BMW with CPO warranty and prices were ridiculous. I also was looking at the new BMW 2 series but they were all going for well over MSRP.

Fortunately a local honda dealer had a used 20 Guilia TI RWD, so I test drove that and loved it. If it were not white I probably would have bought that one but I have been wanting an AWD car again for years and kept ending up with RWD anyway so when I realized that they had .9% financing I decided to buy a new car for the first time since 1986 and here I am.

Nothing has really surprised me about the car yet, as I read this forum very thoroughly in the weeks leading up to my purchase. Love that the AWD handles so amazingly well.

Sorry! that was longer than I meant to go.
 

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My collision repair man brought me to the Giulia. I had heard of it and read about the QV but that was out of my price range. Plus the reliability issues turned me off. I have to drive some for work so put a lot of miles on my cars.

Anyway, I have been alternating between BMW and Infiniti for the past 18 years and tried to get back in a WRX when the pandemic started (had one when they first came to US) and got a car from a dealer long distance and it had aftermarket exhaust from manifold back so was disqualified from warranty. Returned it and ended up in an F22 BMW instead and, while I like the turbo 4 f22 it just didn't have the feel of the old E cars I had owned. They were magic in the turns like this car.

Anyway, I had a fender bender back in the spring of 21 and my collision guy had a Giulia and he had always been a BMW guy and raved about it. He is an immigrant from Bosnia and a big european car enthusiast. That got my attention but I wasn't ready to change up my little F22 yet.

Fast forward to this spring and my son, who I had given my last car, a 2013 Infiniti G37S coupe, turned right from the left lane in front of someone and totaled the car. I went to see my collision guy about it and now he had a Stelvio and his brother had the Giulia. Once again he raved about it and also said he had gotten it recently below MSRP! I had been searching for a manual BMW with CPO warranty and prices were ridiculous. I also was looking at the new BMW 2 series but they were all going for well over MSRP.

Fortunately a local honda dealer had a used 20 Guilia TI RWD, so I test drove that and loved it. If it were not white I probably would have bought that one but I have been wanting an AWD car again for years and kept ending up with RWD anyway so when I realized that they had .9% financing I decided to buy a new car for the first time since 1986 and here I am.

Nothing has really surprised me about the car yet, as I read this forum very thoroughly in the weeks leading up to my purchase. Love that the AWD handles so amazingly well.

Sorry! that was longer than I meant to go.
Haha, sometimes the longer the better! Great story, Rollo!
 
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With you on the lack of dipstick, especially since some of the Alfa notifications on oil are time and mile sensitive rather than actual monitoring of oil level.

I miss being able to assess the oil level and quality on my own rather than not.

As been mentioned, and you stated here, there’s something so unique about the steering…clearly something Alfa definitively got right.
Steering is special even my wife who does not really care much about cars mentioned the steering was better on the Alfa.

I drove a Lexus SUV and it drove like a tank and the same weekend the GLA 250 steering feel was numb.
 

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Steering is special even my wife who does not really care much about cars mentioned the steering was better on the Alfa.

I drove a Lexus SUV and it drove like a tank and the same weekend the GLA 250 steering feel was numb.
Yeah, it's one of these things where once you drive a car with this level of control/feel for the driving experience; it ruins other cars. Wife and I have a Jeep Trailhawk. Now, I fully concede the Trailhawk isn't exactly made for on-road comfort and it's an unjust comparison, but holy hell it's death now. Lol
 

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I've wanted a Giulia forever and when I got the wife interested I pulled the trigger on a Lipari Gray Ti, wanting to go for the single year paint color. Found out the clean Carfax was the only thing clean, it had scam bodywork on the bumper cover and fender, which both required replacement and paint. I got hosed but the car came together beautifully and I love it, probably drive it three days a week. In fact, I just got both sweeties cleaned up this afternoon and tucked in for the night. Most surprising thing about the car? That I found body parts so easily to get it repaired and quickly back on the road. We have a nearby Alfa dealership and they're pretty easy to work with, which is also a surprise from what I've heard. Exclusivity isn't so much here in my area, we have a healthy Alfa population in town, 4Cs, QVs, Giulias and Stelvios galore, and even a few oldies that go to cars and coffee...
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I've wanted a Giulia forever and when I got the wife interested I pulled the trigger on a Lipari Gray Ti, wanting to go for the single year paint color. Found out the clean Carfax was the only thing clean, it had scam bodywork on the bumper cover and fender, which both required replacement and paint. I got hosed but the car came together beautifully and I love it, probably drive it three days a week. In fact, I just got both sweeties cleaned up this afternoon and tucked in for the night. Most surprising thing about the car? That I found body parts so easily to get it repaired and quickly back on the road. We have a nearby Alfa dealership and they're pretty easy to work with, which is also a surprise from what I've heard. Exclusivity isn't so much here in my area, we have a healthy Alfa population in town, 4Cs, QVs, Giulias and Stelvios galore, and even a few oldies that go to cars and coffee... View attachment 130575
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I didn't even know Alfa existed, even though the dealership is just 2 miles away. I started looking for a fun to drive daily commuter but wanted something with a real transmission instead of the dull CVT's found in several of the JDM cars. I was originally interested in the Mazda hatchback, but saw my Rosso Ti Sport with the 8 speed and paddle shifters. Took it for a test drive and bought it on the spot. I've never driven something that is so much fun. It's beauty is a bonus.
 

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I didn't even know Alfa existed, even though the dealership is just 2 miles away. I started looking for a fun to drive daily commuter but wanted something with a real transmission instead of the dull CVT's found in several of the JDM cars. I was originally interested in the Mazda hatchback, but saw my Rosso Ti Sport with the 8 speed and paddle shifters. Took it for a test drive and bought it on the spot. I've never driven something that is so much fun. It's beauty is a bonus.
Seemingly takes something incredibly wrong with the particular car for a test driver not to fall in love with an Alfa. As soon as someone gets in the cockpit…they’re sold.
 

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It started when I needed to buy a cheap cash car. This was to avoid driving my Porsche and Aston Martin in certain places. My requirements were brand new car, lowest cost possible that I won’t be embarrassed to be seen in. Well most new cars are in the 30s. I felt like the BMW 3 series lost its driving dynamics long ago. I kept hearing about alfas sublime driving dynamics. So I bought a brand new Giulia sprint at the right time and was able to get the dealer to discount a few thousand. On the test drive it felt ok, but after a week of ownership I was in love with the feel. It drone like a giant Miata with double the horsepower.

I immediately started searching for a QV and once a 2022 was located I made the upgrade.

it’s Sunday morning I’m about to head to cars and coffee. I’m taking the QV today rather than the GT4. The GT4 is cool but I don’t feel like being beat up and going deaf today. The QV is a true masterpiece. It’s an absolute Swiss Army knife. There are so many ways you can drive it. Unlike BMW M cars the modes and suspension settings actually feel perfect for the task at hand. The competition gives you a bunch of settings and none of them feel right.
 

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It started when I needed to buy a cheap cash car. This was to avoid driving my Porsche and Aston Martin in certain places. My requirements were brand new car, lowest cost possible that I won’t be embarrassed to be seen in. Well most new cars are in the 30s. I felt like the BMW 3 series lost its driving dynamics long ago. I kept hearing about alfas sublime driving dynamics. So I bought a brand new Giulia sprint at the right time and was able to get the dealer to discount a few thousand. On the test drive it felt ok, but after a week of ownership I was in love with the feel. It drone like a giant Miata with double the horsepower.

I immediately started searching for a QV and once a 2022 was located I made the upgrade.

it’s Sunday morning I’m about to head to cars and coffee. I’m taking the QV today rather than the GT4. The GT4 is cool but I don’t feel like being beat up and going deaf today. The QV is a true masterpiece. It’s an absolute Swiss Army knife. There are so many ways you can drive it. Unlike BMW M cars the modes and suspension settings actually feel perfect for the task at hand. The competition gives you a bunch of settings and none of them feel right.
Damn, I want to be you in my next life. Facing that tough daily decision about whether to drive my Porsche Cayman GT4, Aston Martin anything or Alfa QV. :)
 

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My two favorite cars have both been Alfas- First, a 1981 GTV6 that was sublime. -That marvelous V6, 50/50 weight distribution, (thanks to rear transaxle), the rear inboard brakes, compact design by Giugiaro (sp) 80k miles daily driver through brutal Chicago winters and auto crossing with AROC at Blackhawk Farms racetrack…And now my Q4 TI Giulia in Alfa Rosso with a tan interior and the amazing 2.0 liter 4 with it’s almost 300hp and great sound thanks to an aftermarket Sprint Race exhaust…Both cars have that Italian soul that makes them so about the driver with great style. As the GTV6 was from the time when things were mechanically direct and simpler with a manual tranny, I would give it the first spot, but still the Giulia always brings a smile while driving and a look-back each time I walk away
 
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