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Is this new Giulia the first RWD sedan ALFA has ever made? Some review say the previous ALFA sedan is just a FIAT car with a Romeo badge
 

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Oh God no! The Milano and the Alfetta Sedan were both RWD. Before that were the original Giulias. Google 1965 Giulia Berlina Ti. What about the 2600 Berlina? Before that were a whole slew of custom coach built cars. All 4 doors and RWD.
 

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So....the 70's and 80's were tough financial times for Alfa....After a stint of government ownership, Alfa was up for sale.....Ford was a willing purchaser but in the 11th hour FIAT put up a bid to purchase Alfa in its entirety and keep Alfa Italian.....Alfa joined Lancia and FIAT as part of the Alfa Lancia Industriale S.p.A.....during this time, R & D was minimal and there was significant group development ....the 164 (a FWD sedan and Alfa's last sedan offering in the US) was based on the development of the Lancia Thema and SAAB 9000....Although still a fun car and extremely elegant for its time (and clearly the best looking variant of the three), it suffered from the basic limitations of FWD....The 75 or MILANO as it was known stateside, was the last RWD sedan Alfa offered.....Not only RWD but a racing transaxle with inboard rotors to reduce unsprung weight....a little polorizing aesthetically, but a blast to drive......Hope that helps....D
 
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And the comment that the prior sedan sold in the US was just a Fiat with Alfa badges isn’t fair. True, it was designed and built in a consortium with Lancia and Saab. Also true that it was under Fiat corporate development. BUT that Busso design V6 was PURE Alfa, even if it was spinning the front wheels! Europe had its share of Alfa/Fiat designed FWD sedans which, though beautiful, were less inspired.
 

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Some reviewers have no grasp of history (or don't care about it).
 
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My 1991 164 S ......
 

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Brera was one of the best looking more modern time Alfas, looks like italians miss it too, a concept pic
Like a Ferrari FF Junior.
 
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So....the 70's and 80's were tough financial times for Alfa....After a stint of government ownership, Alfa was up for sale.....Ford was a willing purchaser but in the 11th hour FIAT put up a bid to purchase Alfa in its entirety and keep Alfa Italian.....Alfa joined Lancia and FIAT as part of the Alfa Lancia Industriale S.p.A.....during this time, R & D was minimal and there was significant group development ....the 164 (a FWD sedan and Alfa's last sedan offering in the US) was based on the development of the Lancia Thema and SAAB 9000....Although still a fun car and extremely elegant for its time (and clearly the best looking variant of the three), it suffered from the basic limitations of FWD....The 75 or MILANO as it was known stateside, was the last RWD sedan Alfa offered.....Not only RWD but a racing transaxle with inboard rotors to reduce unsprung weight....a little polorizing aesthetically, but a blast to drive......Hope that helps....D
thanks for sharing this. It's really nice to know this history.
 

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As others have said, the 75 (as it was known in the rest of the world) or Milano (USA only naming) was the last RWD sedan Alfa produced. They are really the final development on the Alfetta chassis which was an amazing achievement - a rear transaxle layout with inboard rear brakes for perfect weight distribution - paired with Alfa's amazing Busso V6. It really can't be overstressed just how hard you can lean on this chassis and how forgiving and neutral it remains due to the transaxle layout. It really is something that needs to be felt to be believed.

My 1989 Milano Verde is the one car I will probably keep forever...

 

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....The 75 or MILANO as it was known stateside, was the last RWD sedan Alfa offered.....Not only RWD but a racing transaxle with inboard rotors to reduce unsprung weight....a little polorizing aesthetically, but a blast to drive......Hope that helps....D
It can't be stressed enough the type of engineering Alfa put in their cars at that time, that made them such a blast to drive. Even the entry level FWD Alfasud also had inboard brake rotors, a lovely 4 cylinder boxer engine, and some smart rear suspension geometry. The challenges they had was more build quality issues like rust. But the engineering....from the V6 bussos....to the twin sparks with hydraulically driven variable valve timing variators (that started to sound diesel like when it was wearing out lol), etc. were years ahead.

I saw a 75 at the lights the other day. I followed it from behind, and the pace it was keeping, and the balance was beautiful to watch.
 
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