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Anyone that's tracking done a flush yet? My fluid isn't more than 6 months so I don't intend changing as the spec looks impressive (HT Dot 4 etc.) but thinking i'm going to do 2 or more days a year (note i'm Novice rather than going nuts in the red class) so was wondering what people were generally doing. I have been reading on other forums some flush once a year and do 6/7 days others much more frequently.

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If you did not have any fade at your last event, just bleed them and change to better fluid next year as you will (hopefully) get faster by then.....:grin2:
 
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Due to the extreme circumstances along with the importance of stopping during track days, I would highly recommend a complete flush and refill with your Dot 4 fluid of choice (Motul/RBF600 or 660 is my choice). I'll take your word for it that the OEM fluid is Dot 4 which is great (didn't check manual), but I would do the flush for piece of mind. Confidence in your equipment is key on track and safe is fast.
 

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If you did not have any fade at your last event, just bleed them and change to better fluid next year as you will (hopefully) get faster by then.....:grin2:
Guess that's what I'm debating in my head. It's new, didn't have any problem so is it a waste of money for peace of mind. Either way I'm getting the car teched, found a local place that is HPDE approved so hopefully it'll be free (so I've read).

Due to the extreme circumstances along with the importance of stopping during track days, I would highly recommend a complete flush and refill with your Dot 4 fluid of choice (Motul/RBF600 or 660 is my choice). I'll take your word for it that the OEM fluid is Dot 4 which is great (didn't check manual), but I would do the flush for piece of mind. Confidence in your equipment is key on track and safe is fast.
Thanks for the Motul recommendation. How often do you so yours? Every event or periodically? Can I ask what you pay too I'm expecting around $70?
 

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Exactly save the $$$
If you want I'll take her out for a few hot laps for you, to test her out!
Your well being is my main interest, so I will endanger myself and check her out for you!:wink2:
BTW when you change it you should go with Castrol SRF
 
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Exactly save the $$$
If you want I'll take her out for a few hot laps for you, to test her out!
Your well being is my main interest, so I will endanger myself and check her out for you!:wink2:
BTW when you change it you should go with Castrol SRF
Ahh so you're on the Castrol fence. Did you prefer it over Motul or just your pref? Thanks for the sound words, I always panic the week before lol. Do you or will you (with the QV) change every year... I know you're in a different league to me though just wondering
 

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I have tried pretty much everything in my Porsche (911 and spec Boxster) racecars and I found Castrol to be the best for my needs and Driving/braking style. Although it is more expensive than the Motul, SRF for me is definitely worth it. In the racecars, I have it flushed every race weekend. In the QV and the CS, not as often as they don't get driven with the same intensity. I would bleed them between events and probably flush after 5-6 track days or so.
 
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Cool thanks. If I like the tech place the might end up being my local tuner so I'll see what they offer too.
 

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Thanks for the Motul recommendation. How often do you so yours? Every event or periodically? Can I ask what you pay too I'm expecting around $70?
I haven't taken the Giulia out on track yet, but when I do, I will be flushing and refilling with Motul RBF600. I'm speaking from past experience tracking my Evos and 370Zs.

I would go through a season before doing a flush and refill. In other words, I would do a flush and refill after the summer season, etc. I wouldn't recommend a flush and refill after every event. That would be overkill for most weekend warriors like us, but to each their own.

I think $70 for a flush and refill is very reasonable. There are some things you don't skimp on when tracking. The braking system is one. Another is safety equipment. Take it from someone who went off side ways doing over 100 mph with zero injuries (car sustained $15k worth of damage).

One more thing to consider. Once you start getting more comfortable with the car on track and you start pushing the boundaries a bit, you may want to look into pads that operate at higher temps. I used Hawk HP+ in my Evos and 370zs. Along with RBF, I never encountered a brake failure. I also left them in during DD, but they're noisy on the street.

Happy tracking my friend! Stay safe!
 
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Thanks a lot...all good info. Get out on a track with her, it's a fantastic handling car. That's from an RX7 ex owner :) I had Hawks too and loved them. In addition to the Nurburgring a few times, I've been out on Palmer in MA already, Limerock is my second track day in the US with the Q4 which is my local track.. looking forward to this. I'm 100% taking it at my pace, I'm a cautious but fun guy not the prat who goes full tank without knowing the track and right into the wall.. I've seen them! :)

I bumped into my neighbor and mechanic who reinforced I'm fine and echoed what you both said.

My 'ex' at the Ring, I do miss her



Check out my palmer vid with @BostonDMD was a cool day :D take her out dude!

https://youtu.be/lEshSHEQFZ8
 

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bringing this back to life... anyone know how much fluid the Guilia takes? Going to get a bottle for when my free service comes up. One bottle enough?
 

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When you refill with the new fluid, whatever fluid is left over throw away. Never use or reuse brake fluid once it's been exposed to open air. It can quickly absorb moisture which causes deterioration in it's ability to function as a brake fluid. On the track, you want your brakes to work and work well. Always refill from a freshly opened can of fluid. I know it seems like a waste of money, but cost is not the issue; safety is. If you're down that much on fluid after a session that you need to add fluid, you were probably pretty hard on the brakes. At that point, do an entire flush and refill instead of opening a can for a partial refill.
 

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Here's a link to a nice comparison:

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=BRAKEFLUID

I run Prospeed RS683 brake fluid in my track car. It has the best pedal feel for the price since they have a process that removes tiny air bubbles from the fluid. Much less expensive than the castrol also.
Side question, how are the painted calipers holding up for serious track people? On other cars with brembos I've seen the paint discolor badly, especially red.
 

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Update: Castrol on its way as you need 1L and there was a difference of like $10 between Motul etc after you buy a couple of bottles. I'm booked in for Tuesday with my anniversary service; they quoted me $145 for the fluid change (hours labor) which I know is stupid high but right now I'm just going to pay and shut up for this year. I'll aim to do it myself when my garage is built :)

Franz - not noticed any fade on mine or read other trackers reporting it
 
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