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I know the Pirelli's are a decent enough tire as I have a set of P-Zero's on my Maserati and I've heard the Michelin Pilot Sport is an excellent alternative. Any thoughts or suggestions for possible upgrades on the Guilia? Anyone planning on changing?
 

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That depends on what tire comes with the wheel choice that I will pick. If it comes with a summer tire I might change it to an all season. The answer to your question also depends on where you live and what's important for you. If you live in a snowy climate and performance is important factor then you might want to consider running a dedicated winter/summer set up. If you are okay with an all season setup then I recommend checking out the Continental DSW tire. I am running that on my Audi and I am very satisfied with it.
 

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Thanks, Silverstroke... You make some very good points to consider. I guess I should have been more specific in wanting to know more about dedicated summer tire alternatives.
I probably will garage the Guilia for the winter as it can get pretty brutal around here. I have my "winter car" to count on which is a Volkswagen CC, which happens to have the exact same tires, (Continental DWS), as your Audi. They really are an excellent tire, highly recommended for winter driving.
 

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I know the Pirelli's are a decent enough tire as I have a set of P-Zero's on my Maserati and I've heard the Michelin Pilot Sport is an excellent alternative. Any thoughts or suggestions for possible upgrades on the Guilia? Anyone planning on changing?
I know this is an old thread but I just wanted to add that the Cuadrifoglio tires are Pzero Corsas, not the conventional Pzeros so all the tires mentioned here are a downgrade if dry grip is what you want. The Corsas are a very sticky tire with very low thread wear. The Michelin equivalent would be the the Pilot Sports Cup, also a near-racing tire.
 

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I know this is an old thread but I just wanted to add that the Cuadrifoglio tires are Pzero Corsas, not the conventional Pzeros so all the tires mentioned here are a downgrade if dry grip is what you want. The Corsas are a very sticky tire with very low thread wear. The Michelin equivalent would be the the Pilot Sports Cup, also a near-racing tire.
Corsas are basically track tires. No wonder they were able to get such a good 'ring time.
Corsas will wear out after ~2000 miles. Treadwear = 60. :surprise:

For reference, MSS has treadwear 300, and I can barely make a set of rears last 10,000 miles (no track/autox miles either).
 

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Pirelli TW ratings cannot be conmpared with Michelin. Each manufacture provides these simply as a guide between tyres in their range, not against other manufacturers.

For example TTW on MPSC2 is double that of AR Trofeo R (the more aggressive tyre from the Corsa). However they dont last twice as long. Infact on all our GT4 and GT3 Porsche track cars we have found the Trofeo lasts at least as long as the Cup2...

The AR Corsa for QV talking with European/UK owners that have now done decent mileage looks like it will last somewhere between the Michelin Cup2 and the Supersport.

If the car is used for fast back road drives on tight bends or on the track the wear on the shoulders of the front tyres will necessitate front tyre replacement prior to rear tyre replacement.

I would imagine for a street driven car the AR Corsa should see at least 6000 miles before need for replacement dependent on the driving style. Howver if you drive the car aggressively at the track i suspect the front tyres will need replacing within two days maximum due to the very conservative front camber that the factory provide (negative half a degree). The rear is -1.5 degrees from factory which inst too bad. Unfortunately there is no front camber adjustment on the QV. It is understood the factory choose conservative front negative camber settings primarily to reduce the wheel judder on hard lock that the ackermann effect of the suspension orientation they have chosen creates...
 

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Pirelli TW ratings cannot be conmpared with Michelin. Each manufacture provides these simply as a guide between tyres in their range, not against other manufacturers.

For example TTW on MPSC2 is double that of AR Trofeo R (the more aggressive tyre from the Corsa). However they dont last twice as long. Infact on all our GT4 and GT3 Porsche track cars we have found the Trofeo lasts at least as long as the Cup2...

The AR Corsa for QV talking with European/UK owners that have now done decent mileage looks like it will last somewhere between the Michelin Cup2 and the Supersport.

If the car is used for fast back road drives on tight bends or on the track the wear on the shoulders of the front tyres will necessitate front tyre replacement prior to rear tyre replacement.

I would imagine for a street driven car the AR Corsa should see at least 6000 miles before need for replacement dependent on the driving style. Howver if you drive the car aggressively at the track i suspect the front tyres will need replacing within two days maximum due to the very conservative front camber that the factory provide (negative half a degree). The rear is -1.5 degrees from factory which inst too bad. Unfortunately there is no front camber adjustment on the QV. It is understood the factory choose conservative front negative camber settings primarily to reduce the wheel judder on hard lock that the ackermann effect of the suspension orientation they have chosen creates...
I have 6,500 miles already on my Corsas and they seem to have another 5-6K left in them despite very spirited driving including a recent 700 mile trip at high speeds through Adirondack Park last weekend. These Corsa AR1 model tires are excellent!
 
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The Quads come with Pirelli Corsas...for high performance I don't think you can do better....for all season all around basic driving and still providing excellent performance driving...Michelin Pilot Super Sports...
 

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I have 6,500 miles already on my Corsas and they seem to have another 5-6K left in them despite very spirited driving including a recent 700 mile trip at high speeds through Adirondack Park last weekend. These Corsa AR1 model tires are excellent!
I realize this is a very old thread; but, just wanted to say I have over 8,600 miles on my OEM Corsa AR's and they look like they may be good for 10,000 miles if I don't track it. I drive primarily in Dynamic, quickly, depending on traffic and road conditions. And, I don't usually drive when temps are very low. (Northern VA roads.)

But, I'm looking for a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports on a second set of wheels for cross-country driving. They seem to be capable of all weather, at least in the lower half of the 48. Anyone have a better suggestion?
 

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I have over 8,600 miles on my OEM Corsa AR's and they look like they may be good for 10,000 miles if I don't track the car. I drive primarily in Dynamic, quickly, depending on traffic and road conditions. And, I don't usually drive when temps are very low. (Northern VA roads.)

But, I'm looking for a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports on a second set of wheels for cross-country driving. They seem to be capable of all weather, at least in the lower half of the 48. I still want to have the Pirellis for track use. Anyone have a better suggestion?
 

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I have over 8,600 miles on my OEM Corsa AR's and they look like they may be good for 10,000 miles if I don't track the car. I drive primarily in Dynamic, quickly, depending on traffic and road conditions. And, I don't usually drive when temps are very low. (Northern VA roads.)

But, I'm looking for a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports on a second set of wheels for cross-country driving. They seem to be capable of all weather, at least in the lower half of the 48. I still want to have the Pirellis for track use. Anyone have a better suggestion?
Michelin pilot A/S 4 if you can find them.
 

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I have over 8,600 miles on my OEM Corsa AR's and they look like they may be good for 10,000 miles if I don't track the car. I drive primarily in Dynamic, quickly, depending on traffic and road conditions. And, I don't usually drive when temps are very low. (Northern VA roads.)

But, I'm looking for a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports on a second set of wheels for cross-country driving. They seem to be capable of all weather, at least in the lower half of the 48. I still want to have the Pirellis for track use. Anyone have a better suggestion?
I just drove on PSS in Omaha, ~30 degrees, and they were scary hockey pucks. I'll use them up (maybe another 5K or single track day left on them) and then use Firestone Firehawks for summer, DWS06+ (on the car now, on a second rim set) for winter.
 

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I switched the OEM to MPS4S on the front and Bridgstone Potenza 007 on the rear. Much better wet handling without comprising on warm dry handling too much. Looking for a little better grip in the rear from standing start, so considering Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport next. Has anyone tried these on the QV?
 
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