[Filip]

Hello,
I wonder if there are other Giulia owners that also have the same "problem" when turning to the end radius of front wheels that tires are slipping / gliding and shaking a bit over the surface ?
Garage says it's due to special front suspension. I have 18" rims Veloce dark.
Greetings
Filip
Belgium

 

[conradnarra]

Hello,
I wonder if there are other Giulia owners that also have the same "problem" when turning to the end radius of front wheels that tires are slipping / gliding and shaking a bit over the surface ?
Garage says it's due to special front suspension. I have 18" rims Veloce dark.
Greetings
Filip
Belgium

It might be due to summer (warm weather) tires in the cold. My Giulia does the same thing, and I am thinking about all-season tires for winter. The Alfa 4C forum has photos of a Giulia getting all-seasons -- the only detail mentioned was: "Getting All seasons installed today. The Rcomps it comes with really hates this weather..." http://4c-forums.com/8-alfa-romeo-4c-general-discussion/37041-giulia-s-us-landing-11.html I have another car that just does not drive well with summer tires in the cold -- not just for lack of traction, but for handling and issues that remind me of the Giulia shaking. "Performance car" guys might have better experience and advice for you on such matters than the garage. Elsewhere on the internet you will find that some people think summer tires are damaged by cold weather use. Some tire dealer websites mention this. Good luck Filip!

 

[pennellotref]

It depends on the front suspension architecture and on the setting of it. It's completly normal, don't worry and happy new year !

 

[conradnarra]

It depends on the front suspension architecture and on the setting of it. It's completly normal, don't worry and happy new year !

Makes sense -- it will be interesting to rule out the tires.

 

[kanundrum]

I switched tires and I still get a little feedback I am sure it has something to do with temps as well.

 

[Filip]

all thx for info but still I had scratching since day one, even at 17°C. Technical dpt Alfa Belgium say sit's due to angle of front wheels when turning to max. Car handles fantastic and very direct but scratching stays a strange side-effect mostly when other people drive with me, they tend to ask what is the strange scratching sound of the tires ??

 

[conradnarra]

Today I switched to Mich Pilot tires. Much less shaking in low speed turns. Back to stock tires in the spring!

 

[RKul]

Decided to research this same topic, noticed I'm responding 1.5 years from post. Posting info in case others need confirmation. I've owned my QV for a year, I've been experiencing the same issue with maintaining traction on front right tire with slow hard turns for about 8 months. I was assured the same thing from mechanics that this is normal due to suspension, even had Alfa engineers come check it out for 2 days in Fall of 2017, they aligned and tightened everything. Surprisingly drove even better, if that can be believed. They mention this also occurs on certain Maseratis (maybe an Italian manu. thing?). This diagnostic was prompted by my hearing popping noise from what I believed was the suspension after some personal testing. Then front right tire began to skip and jump (losing traction) along the pavement as winter came with cooler temps and wet pavement. Now that it is warmer, I don't get the skipping or traction loss, but I've experience wobbling randomly, trying to duplicate that for the mechanics has been tough. I admit at speeds above 15 mph, the car has shown no issues. Drives incredibly well... The wobbling is a bit of a concern and I'm interested if you've experienced that as well around 12-13 mph on a turn....

Tire- Pirelli PZero Corsa

Houston, TX

 

[Racer Z]

Hello,
I wonder if there are other Giulia owners that also have the same "problem" when turning to the end radius of front wheels that tires are slipping / gliding and shaking a bit over the surface ?
Garage says it's due to special front suspension. I have 18" rims Veloce dark.
Greetings
Filip
Belgium

It depends on the front suspension architecture and on the setting of it. It's completly normal, don't worry and happy new year !

It's a normal thing with high performance cars. It's a compromise of having the geometry 'tuned' for best performance at speed rather than best comfort in the parking lot. As you've probably noticed, the slipping, of jerking only happens at full steering lock, which we only do at parking-lot speeds.

Yes, that can be tuned out, but at the expense of having a mediocre car while tooling through the winding mountain roads, or while on the track.

 

[CoulsonT]

It's normal due to the front end design of the Giulia and the QV.

 

[GMcA]

It's normal due to the front end design of the Giulia and the QV.

This

See attached for details :grin2: Toe-out on turns is achieved through using appropriately angled steering arms: known as the 'Ackerman angle'.

 

[dietje91]

I can confirm that my father's Maserati Ghibli has exactly the same 'problem' and that he's been confirmed by Maserati that it's perfectly normal and simply a feat of every Ghibli. I haven't collected my Giulia yet, but good to know that I needn't worry when it happens. I do have to say that it's indeed a strange thing to experience in the Maserati and you get the feeling that something's terribly wrong and you're damaging the car. But apparently not.