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So I was talking to a Service Advisor today because twice in the last couple of weeks my Giulia has stalled right after a start. Nothing terrible, but just wanted to ask if there was anything out there. He mentioned a PCM reflash is available for affected cars, but it isn't a full RRT because they haven't figured out the impacted cars. The symptoms seem to be occasional stalling after start, surging after start after a fuel fillup, and stuttering.

As a bonus, a customer who chopped off their exhaust right after the cats had some drivability issues and complained. After Alfa got pictures of the modified exhaust, when the customer told them he'd done nothing to the car, they theatened to void the warrany. I mention this because is seems he modifed the exhaust in such a way as to remove or relocate a couple of sensors, which might have given Alfa some ground to stand on.
 

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So I was talking to a Service Advisor today because twice in the last couple of weeks my Giulia has stalled right after a start. Nothing terrible, but just wanted to ask if there was anything out there. He mentioned a PCM reflash is available for affected cars, but it isn't a full RRT because they haven't figured out the impacted cars. The symptoms seem to be occasional stalling after start, surging after start after a fuel fillup, and stuttering.
As a bonus, a customer who chopped off their exhaust right after the cats had some drivability issues and complained. After Alfa got pictures of the modified exhaust, when the customer told them he'd done nothing to the car, they theatened to void the warrany. I mention this because is seems he modifed the exhaust in such a way as to remove or relocate a couple of sensors, which might have given Alfa some ground to stand on.
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As a bonus, a customer who chopped off their exhaust right after the cats had some drivability issues and complained. After Alfa got pictures of the modified exhaust, when the customer told them he'd done nothing to the car, they theatened to void the warrany. I mention this because is seems he modifed the exhaust in such a way as to remove or relocate a couple of sensors, which might have given Alfa some ground to stand on.
Itresting, there are no sensors after catalytic converter on the cars, so something doesnt add up on your story
 

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I specifically asked dealer about exhausts and Alfa’s position was warranty is ok if you change anything behind cats....as stated all the emissions equipment works unchanged with anything catback.....
I asked my dealer about this the other day and they gave me the old corporate answer. "If it is determined that your failure is tied to any modification, the warranty will not be honored." I asked if they had any examples of the warranty not being covered they said that on Fiat, a customer upgraded the intake and then had a clutch problem, and they wouldn't cover it. So unless that intake added an extra 100 lb-ft of torque somehow and was well out of the clutch's tolerances, I'd say FCA is gonna try to screw you if they can.
 

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...So unless that intake added an extra 100 lb-ft of torque somehow and was well out of the clutch's tolerances, I'd say FCA is gonna try to screw you if they can.
You can go ahead and substitute almost and manufacturer for FCA in that statement.

As for no sensors, that’s interesting.
 

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You can go ahead and substitute almost and manufacturer for FCA in that statement.

As for no sensors, that’s interesting.
That's a true statement. Hate that mentality. I should be able to personalize my car within reason. A cat back exhaust or an intake should be allowed. I can understand how messing with the ECU is more dangerous, but the other easy bolt ons should be allowed. They could even say, "If you have the item installed at a dealership, we'll allow it if it's in these categories..." That would be cool and probably more profitable for them.
 
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