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Hi Guys,
New to the forum as i just got my first Afla a week ago. So far in love with the car but knowing its an Alfa there are going to be those small annoying issues like the start/stop which has been discussed on this forum.

I know i can turn off the Start/Stop completely with the push of a button. My question/concern is about it when start/stop is active.

When i get to a light the car turns off as its suppose to, i keep my legs on the break at the same level as when i started but the car randomly just starts back up without any input by me on the break. I havent had the car stay off for one full light. Typically turns off for 10-15 seconds and turns right back on. Is this normal? Coming form an A4 which had a Start/Stop as well and it would always keep the car off until i got off the break and stayed off throughtout the stop light.

Is this a software update that may be missing on my car? how do i check if thats the case without going to the dealer. I know i need to go to the dealer when the Android Auto update gets relaesed (whenever that is).

PS its a 2018 Base model.

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Hi Guys,
New to the forum as i just got my first Afla a week ago. So far in love with the car but knowing its an Alfa there are going to be those small annoying issues like the start/stop which has been discussed on this forum.

I know i can turn off the Start/Stop completely with the push of a button. My question/concern is about it when start/stop is active.

When i get to a light the car turns off as its suppose to, i keep my legs on the break at the same level as when i started but the car randomly just starts back up without any input by me on the break. I havent had the car stay off for one full light. Typically turns off for 10-15 seconds and turns right back on. Is this normal? Coming form an A4 which had a Start/Stop as well and it would always keep the car off until i got off the break and stayed off throughtout the stop light.

Is this a software update that may be missing on my car? how do i check if thats the case without going to the dealer. I know i need to go to the dealer when the Android Auto update gets relaesed (whenever that is).

PS its a 2018 Base model.

Thanks
Hello,

Congratulations on your new Giulia! Page 47 of your owner's manual shows what conditions can cause the Stop/Start system to deactivate:

"Stop/Start will deactivate in the following scenarios:
- The climate control system is in AUTO mode (indicator illuminated), and the vehicle has yet to reach the set temperature
- The climate control system is in LO maximum cooling
- The climate control system is in HI maximum heating
- The climate control system is in the MAX-DEF status

When the Stop/Start system is active, the engine will restart if the inside temperature changes significantly, or if the LO setting, or MAX-DEF setting, is activated."

If you have any additional questions please let me know.

Andrea
Alfa Romeo Social Care Specialist
 

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The feature is affected by many factors (engine temp, ambient temp, oil pressure, electric consumption, etc). It will not turn off for a set number of seconds, but there will also be a maximum amount of time it will stay off. This is because the engine has to stay 'ready' by keeping oil pressure and other items within a set parameter. Alfa most likely has theirs programmed different from Audi.

What you are experiencing I would call normal. I however just normally turn this feature off.
 

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Has anybody else noticed an uncomfortable amount of vehicle rollback due to slow restart of the engine when on an incline? I read a magazine review somewhere that listed pros and cons about the Giulia and slow restart of the engine start/stop feature was listed as one of the cons. If I'm in any sort of traffic or on an incline I'll disable the feature now after one too many uncomfortable moments with someone on my rear bumper and a slow restart causing vehicle rollback. It seems the Hill Start Assist system only works when the engine is running.
 

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I would disable this feature (Start/Stop) especially in the USA where gas is not as expensive as in other European or Asian countries.
The stress induced by this feature on the starter and on the battery is alarming, especially if you do a lot of city driving.

Manufacturers have tried to implement this to come up with pollution numbers that match what the EPA agencies are requesting, but in the long run, it is going to cost a lot more to the consumer when you have to replace batteries and starters on a regular basis. Do not believe that the starter is beefier....it is the same part or even weaker than the old ones. Batteries are also weaker, computer controlled and will require a Dealer visit to be replaced and re-programmed.

It is all about building a constant revenues stream.....not providing you with more efficient and reliable cars.

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Has anybody else noticed an uncomfortable amount of vehicle rollback due to slow restart of the engine when on an incline? I read a magazine review somewhere that listed pros and cons about the Giulia and slow restart of the engine start/stop feature was listed as one of the cons. If I'm in any sort of traffic or on an incline I'll disable the feature now after one too many uncomfortable moments with someone on my rear bumper and a slow restart causing vehicle rollback. It seems the Hill Start Assist system only works when the engine is running.
I haven't, but typically when i hit the steep hills in town, nearby, my car is still cold, so the SS feature hasn't come on. I, too, would find this unacceptable, and will report it as an issue to my service advisor on my next visit.

I would think that's a bit of easy programming that Alfa forgot to think of doing, and could easily be remedied by disabling the SS when the hillhold funtion is activated, presumably via data recieved from an inclinometer. It might be helpful to all of us if you report this to your dealer service dept, and maybe we'll see a service bulletin to remedy this.
 
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