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Ordered my QV from Johnson in Annapolis in early Feb 2018 and delivered April 23 - very smooth.
Fender gaps are pretty huge so I'm going to lower a bit - for style.

H&R advertises drop of -1.4"
Madness has their Euro source springs listed at -0.8"

After researching this forum, it seems that early production cars (at least first half of 2017) are about 5/8" lower than my car. My question is: what is the reference ride height being used to quote the lowering of a particular spring set? If the H&R -1.4 is reference my ride height, then that would be perfect. If the H&R reference is to early 2017 ride height, well then maybe that is a little too much.
On the other hand, the Madness springs at -.8 inches is just right for an early 2017 but not enough for my 2018. See my problem?

For reference, my 2018 fender height at 500 miles is:

Front: 27 9/16"
Rear: 27 14/16" (mid fuel)
Center of splitter leading edge: 7 1/4"

Anybody have details?
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Here are my stock 2017 QV measurements

Build Date: 4/28/2017
5,500 current miles
Front: 26 5/8”
Rear: 27 1/16 (3/4 tank of gas)
Front splitter: 5 3/4”

Very interesting to find the early 2017s are lower.
I suspect they raised them to minimize scraping over speed bumps, etc. but I sure could see how it would affect the appearance - fender gaps.
 

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I am very happy with the ST Lowering Springs. Mine is a 17 BTW.
 

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H&R's or ST's on a 2018 QV then?

I am very happy with the ST Lowering Springs. Mine is a 17 BTW.
Ok, then anybody have the H&R's or ST's on a 2018 QV with photos or measurements?

From the forum crawling I did, it seems that the early 2017 builds were nearly an inch lower than second half of '17 and '18. Probably those second half '17 cars are '18 model year, just guessing.
 

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Hmmm, haven't heard of ST spring manufacturer.

Does Swift offer a spring for the QV yet? That's a manufacturer I trust.

I like H&R, but IMO, 1.4" is too much of a drop.

Are the 2017 OEM springs available for purchase? That was the route I'd go if I was unhappy with the increased ride height/fender gap of the 2018+ OEM spring.

Any specs for the ST spring? The 0.8" drop does look perfect...just want to make sure it performs as well.
 

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'17 vs '18 ride height and spring drop

Hmmm, haven't heard of ST spring manufacturer.

Does Swift offer a spring for the QV yet? That's a manufacturer I trust.

I like H&R, but IMO, 1.4" is too much of a drop.

Are the 2017 OEM springs available for purchase? That was the route I'd go if I was unhappy with the increased ride height/fender gap of the 2018+ OEM spring.

Any specs for the ST spring? The 0.8" drop does look perfect...just want to make sure it performs as well.
Agree 1.4" is too much drop for street if starting out with the lower ride height that the earlier 2017's seem to have. That would give a total drop of about 2.3" for my car which is more than I want.

BUT, if the 1.4" were measured on late 2017's and 2018's, then it would be good. See my issue? Its a frame of reference question. Too bad the spring folks don't give ride height instead of "drop".

Moving on....
 

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I was in a dealer today buying my car and I saw a 2017 and a 2018 car right next to each other. The difference in the wheel-gap between the two cars was really noticeable - the 2017 car looked significantly better.

Curious, I walked over and used my hand to measure the distance between the tire and the top of the wheel well on the front wheels of both cars.

On the 2018 I could fit my entire hand (perpendicular to the ground) between the tire and top of wheel well. In fact, there was some room left over.

On the 2017 I could not even come close to getting my hand in.
 

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Yes. The gaps are quite large when brand new. I know there will be some settle, but don't expect more than 0.5 inch. That still leaves a sizable gap. I agree that a 1.4" drop is a little aggressive feeling to me since this is only about looks (car is plenty **** fast as is). But you know - it needs to have the right look in every respect. I will go with ST's or the Madness springs most likely for about 1" drop and then follow up with actual ride height change numbers. In a few months.

My splitter is at 7.25" to center. I've also got a GTI daily driver lowered on Eibachs with a Maxton splitter at 3.5" off the tarmac. I haven't hit it yet, but then again I've got a few years of practice stopping half way into parking spots.

Cheers!
 
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Just checked my car. Build date 06/17.

Floor to center of wheel arch:
Front 27.5"
Rear 28.0"

Appearance wise lower does look better. I dropped my 2006 M coupe with H&R sport springs. Lowered that car about 1.25". It has a shorter wheelbase that this car and I do wonder if I lower the QV how many scraps I will suddenly hear as it certainly feels close to scraping at a few locations. I think I'm sticking with stock height...at least for now.
 

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So I jist had my ST springs and the first couple of miles I have a bit of rub from the back, is that normal? I love the way it sits now but im a bit concerned with the rub as I want to track it and Idont want to be rubbing in the middle of the track.


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So I jist had my ST springs and the first couple of miles I have a bit of rub from the back, is that normal? I love the way it sits now but im a bit concerned with the rub as I want to track it and Idont want to be rubbing in the middle of the track.


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Stock wheels and tire sizes? No you should definitely not be rubbing, and especially not from the back. Any chances you mounted the front springs on the back?
 

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That is a great picture, thanks for sharing!

Car is beautiful, BTW. Please share impressions of the ST spring vs OEM.

But yeah, rubbing on the rear is strange. Maybe Eurocompulsion could chime in?
 

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So I jist had my ST springs and the first couple of miles I have a bit of rub from the back, is that normal? I love the way it sits now but im a bit concerned with the rub as I want to track it and Idont want to be rubbing in the middle of the track.
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Can you measure the height of the front and rear wheel wells to see how low it is for comparison purposes?
Stock tire sizes front and rear?

Thanks!
 

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That car is really slammed, I am not surprised it is rubbing. If you turn the steering wheel to full lock in a parking lot do your fronts rub at all?

Whomever sold you those springs needs to give you your money back. Rubbing on stock wheels/tires is not acceptable.
 

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My 2018 has exact measurements as yours at 3300 miles, fwiw.

To the person who is rubbing in the rear, where is the rubbing? Internal liner? Fender? Plastic stone guard piece, or?

Just checked my car. Build date 06/17.

Floor to center of wheel arch:
Front 27.5"
Rear 28.0"

Appearance wise lower does look better. I dropped my 2006 M coupe with H&R sport springs. Lowered that car about 1.25". It has a shorter wheelbase that this car and I do wonder if I lower the QV how many scraps I will suddenly hear as it certainly feels close to scraping at a few locations. I think I'm sticking with stock height...at least for now.
 

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New member, long time lurker. I've been following the forum and this car since it was announced. Now I'm seriously looking into this car but have some questions still, especially with the suspension.

Does any one know the spring rates of some of the aftermarket lower springs and whether the stock shocks (and expensive ones at that) have enough damping and travel to not bottom out and wear out prematurely? Since the vehicle is just 2 years old, stories of blown shocks haven't surfaced yet but that may change in another year or two.
 

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