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Just had the electronic throttle control come on today along with the check engine light. 2018 Quadrifoglio with 11K miles. Car drives fine but stuck in N mode.

Battery was just charged because I have the built in battery tender in the trunk. Seat still goes back and forward and start stop still works.

However I did notice that at first start it took quite a few crank for the car to start. Did a few reset immediately and it would start immediately. Didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary while driving beside being stuck in limp mode.

I know there’s a more than few people on here that have had this issue and I’ve spent the last couple of hours reading all the threads. Have an appt with the dealer Monday morning. Will keep you guys updated.

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I had same issue mine turned out to be a bad coil

Just had the electronic throttle control come on today along with the check engine light. 2018 Quadrifoglio with 11K miles. Car drives fine but stuck in N mode.

Battery was just charged because I have the built in battery tender in the trunk. Seat still goes back and forward and start stop still works.

However I did notice that at first start it took quite a few crank for the car to start. Did a few reset immediately and it would start immediately. Didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary while driving beside being stuck in limp mode.

I know there’s a more than few people on here that have had this issue and I’ve spent the last couple of hours reading all the threads. Have an appt with the dealer Monday morning. Will keep you guys updated.

-Will
 

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Just had the electronic throttle control come on today along with the check engine light. 2018 Quadrifoglio with 11K miles. Car drives fine but stuck in N mode.

Battery was just charged because I have the built in battery tender in the trunk. Seat still goes back and forward and start stop still works.

However I did notice that at first start it took quite a few crank for the car to start. Did a few reset immediately and it would start immediately. Didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary while driving beside being stuck in limp mode.

I know there’s a more than few people on here that have had this issue and I’ve spent the last couple of hours reading all the threads. Have an appt with the dealer Monday morning. Will keep you guys updated.

-Will
Hello Wtj491,
We are certainly sorry about your recent CEL concern. Please keep us updated and know our team can provide you with additional assistance while your dealer works on a diagnosis.
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Thanks guys, getting a code scanner delivered today to see if I can at least pull up a code.

based on other threads it can be anything from fuel issues to turbo to battery etc etc. Hopefully it’s nothing too serious.
 

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Do you guys know if it’s automatically stuck in N mode simply because the check engine light is on?

I recharged the battery last night using the tender and the electronic control throttle light is low off but the engine light is still on at this point.
 

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Hello Wtj491,
We are certainly sorry about your recent CEL concern. Please keep us updated and know our team can provide you with additional assistance while your dealer works on a diagnosis.
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Good morning,

just dropped off the car with Livermore Alfa Romeo in CA. They advised its going to have to sit with them overnight for any warranty work. They did not provide any loaner vehicles nor did they cover the rental car cost. Any way Alfa can assist in this situation?
 

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Good morning,

just dropped off the car with Livermore Alfa Romeo in CA. They advised its going to have to sit with them overnight for any warranty work. They did not provide any loaner vehicles nor did they cover the rental car cost. Any way Alfa can assist in this situation?
Hello Wtj491,
As our dealerships are independently owned and operated, fees are at the discretion of our dealers. Along with that, loaner availability is also handled at the dealer level. Given your situation, I would like to escalate a case on your behalf to a case specialist for further assistance. Please follow up with me via PM if this would be of interest.
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Hello Wtj491,
As our dealerships are independently owned and operated, fees are at the discretion of our dealers. Along with that, loaner availability is also handled at the dealer level. Given your situation, I would like to escalate a case on your behalf to a case specialist for further assistance. Please follow up with me via PM if this would be of interest.
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Ok thank you for your help Laura
 

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Did you ever find out what the issue was my light justtt came on today
Car is still at the dealer, coming up to two weeks and counting. They stated that the check engine light was simply a programming issue and they fixed it by doing an update on the software. We will see if that’s true.

the second part is they are working on trying to figure out why the odometer is flashing. They’re working with Alfa tech support in order to slowly diagnose the problem.

If you have an OBD2 reader try pulling the code. Either way I would bring it into the dealer, it should still be under warranty.
 

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Car is still at the dealer, coming up to two weeks and counting. They stated that the check engine light was simply a programming issue and they fixed it by doing an update on the software. We will see if that’s true.

the second part is they are working on trying to figure out why the odometer is flashing. They’re working with Alfa tech support in order to slowly diagnose the problem.

If you have an OBD2 reader try pulling the code. Either way I would bring it into the dealer, it should still be under warranty.
Okay thanks. I called the dealer and waiting for the service person to return my call. I want to get the car in the dealership ASAP but it seems like they’re so slow to respond. Did you get the car rental situation handled? Or you have to pay out of pocket?
 

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Okay thanks. I called the dealer and waiting for the service person to return my call. I want to get the car in the dealership ASAP but it seems like they’re so slow to respond. Did you get the car rental situation handled? Or you have to pay out of pocket?
Get in contact with Alfa customer service or through alfaromeocares. They should reinburst you for any rental car cost, but you would have to pay out of pocket first.
 

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Update:

vehicle was picked up today, the performed a couple of TSBs and cleared the code.
Was driving home, 5 min into the drive, check engine light came back on. Will be bringing it back tomorrow.
 

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Pulled up the code via OBD2 scanner: P008A.

fuel pump?
Yes P008A means the low pressure fuel pressure is too low. That could be caused by the in-tank fuel pump, the evap system being plugged up, the fuel pressure sensor (is your fuel cap on properly? Do you aggressively top off when you fill the tank?), the wiring, or even the code version reporting the error falsely or operating the pump incorrectly. A fuel leak can cause it, but that will usually be obvious and of course would be very dangerous. On older cars fuel pump problems are sometimes caused by the fuel pickup being plugged.

Note that Giulia has several fuel pickups (at least 3 in the QV) due to the saddle shape of the fuel tank. This results in a more complex than expected low pressure fuel pump.

Does this problem happen at high throttle (only)? How much fuel is in the tank? IIRC, there is a known issue with low fuel pressure during high g forces in the QV with less than a 1/2 tank of gas. I do not think there is a fix, just keep more gas in the tank.
 

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Update:

vehicle was picked up today, the performed a couple of TSBs and cleared the code.
Was driving home, 5 min into the drive, check engine light came back on. Will be bringing it back tomorrow.
We're sorry to hear that you are experiencing this concern. If you would like any additional assistance, our team is always available via private message!

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Yes P008A means the low pressure fuel pressure is too low. That could be caused by the in-tank fuel pump, the evap system being plugged up, the fuel pressure sensor (is your fuel cap on properly? Do you aggressively top off when you fill the tank?), the wiring, or even the code version reporting the error falsely or operating the pump incorrectly. A fuel leak can cause it, but that will usually be obvious and of course would be very dangerous. On older cars fuel pump problems are sometimes caused by the fuel pickup being plugged.

Note that Giulia has several fuel pickups (at least 3 in the QV) due to the saddle shape of the fuel tank. This results in a more complex than expected low pressure fuel pump.

Does this problem happen at high throttle (only)? How much fuel is in the tank? IIRC, there is a known issue with low fuel pressure during high g forces in the QV with less than a 1/2 tank of gas. I do not think there is a fix, just keep more gas in the tank.
The code pulled up when it had a full tank. Initially the code was reported and they completed a couple of software updates claiming the issue was fixed.
I then showed them the TSB where it tells them to replace the fuel pump. They said now they’re going to look into it.

the bad news is that w/o my knowledge which I just found out, when I bought the QV it came with an Alfa regular Giulia power seats instead of the QV standard manual seats. not sure if or why the first owner wanted to do a swap maybe for the power seats. However now the dealer is stating that due to the seats being from a regular Giulia and not a QV, all factory warrant is now voided.

not sure how seats effect a fuel pump issue but now I’m paying for the TSB out of pocket.
 
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