Seat Comfort (an idea that may help others)

ikonoklast said:

I too like to sit closer than the typical person my height and I agree that the seat seems a bit short and that moving the seat back seems to improve the feel. The steering wheel can be pulled out/forward quite a bit, allowing for you to potentially sit further back but still have the steering wheel close.

I also wonder if over time the seats will "break in" so to speak and lead to a better feel. I'd imagine just a like a bed or a couch , the padding will start deflect a bit and over time lead to the sensation of the butt sinking a bit leading to better perceived thigh support.

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Alan said:

My issue with the lumbar on the sport seats is it resets to zero every time the car is locked, possibly every time it's stopped. It's not part of the memory function, no idea why. Doesn't take that long to redo it every drive but why can't it be memorized?

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riparke said:

Hmm, my lumbar does not reset, I have a TI with sport seats.

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Alan said:

..... So can anyone else confirm that their lumbar setting on the sport seat is memorized?

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MyCousinVinnie said:

Thought the following simple idea may help some others....

Before deciding on Giulia, one of my biggest concerns was the comfort (and particularly the seats). Several reviews by Car Mags also commented negatively about seat comfort (except sport seats....but you have to want everything else associated).
In particular, they all wrote that the Alfa seats are too short to give adequate thigh support (and also little cushioning).
Furthermore it was whacky that a car of this $ value should not allow the seat to tilt back or forward (without going into a Ti and adding a approx. $2200 upgrade for Lusso pkg.). At least if it would tilt somewhat, we could try to compensate for the inadequate thigh support (by adjusting tilt back if you know what I mean). I also could not determine that the Lusso seat gave any better seat support/comfort. The seat frame/design itself did not look more substantial. To me it seemed like just a leather design upgrade, but not a better seat.

Even when I looked at the Ti, to me the seats were identical to the base.....not very comfortable.

I can't remember the last time I had a vehicle where the seat portion only had 4 way adjustment (up/down front/back) and no tilt.

Ultimately, I had to make a decision and figured I would have to try and "make it work."

Well, I spent the better part of my first week with the car being so uncomfortable (and I'm only 5'7") with the seat, that I kept longing for my Lexus GS back (MUCH more comfortable and supportive...not even close) and thinking what did I do?!
No matter how I tried to adjust the seat the inadequate seat design coupled with no tilt at all made it impossible to get comfortable.
I figured it was a lost cause until I discovered the following simple idea that made it "tolerable."

I tend to sit closer to the wheel than the avg. driver (I think). I found that by simply moving the seat back more, somehow? it resulted in getting just a little more of MUCH NEEDED thigh support. By moving it back I guess it just decreases the angle at which your legs are. I guess it allows more of the driver leg to rest on seat edge.
I'm pretty young (and not achy in general) so don't get the wrong picture here.

The seat is still inadequate, but hope this simple idea helps someone.....

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Alan said:

Apologies, back to the lumbar setting memory - jwq2 and riparke both have lumbar that remembers. I think mine stays in the same position vertically but the amount of lumbar support resets to zero. I should have been clearer about the aspect of the lumbar I was talking about. I was given a printout by the dealer headed 2017 - GA -Alfa Giulia - 2.0L i4 Di turbo engine w/ESS complt that says in part

" The Comfort Seat Wheel Module (CSWM) is installed on the front part of the drivers seat on the lower side. The module carries out the following functions:
* It manages the drivers seat movement buttons
* It directly controls the drivers seat movement motors
* It receives signals from the seat memory switches (1-2-3)
* It manages the driver's sear position memory and the position of the wing mirrors
* It controls and manages heating of the driver's and passenger's seats and of the steering wheel
For further information on the CSWM, (refer to 08 - Electrical/8E - Electronic Control Modules/ MODULE, Comfort Seat and Wheel / Description and Operation).

The lumbar position movements for both seats are managed directly by the switches (one per seat)

The backrest width adjustment for both seats is managed directly by a pair of switches (one per seat)"

So I would expect that the lumbar and backrest width to stay the same and you can't memorize different settings that will change when you push a memory button to recall a position setting which is all fine. But I wish it also kept the front to back amount of lumbar support. I'm thinking it doesn't because the amount of lumbar is provided by some sort of inflatable bladder at least that is what it feels like on mine not a piece of padding that is being motored into place.

Perhaps its just AR providing us with a set of pre flight settings to make to give the engine a few seconds to start to come up to temp? Disable auto engine stop, check. Reset lumbar support, check... etc

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lockem said:

Lumbar support is usually implemented with a bladder that is inflated or deflated by a pump. If your lumbar support is resetting to 0 while other folk's holds the last setting, you most probably have an air leak.

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