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Been looking for a '18 QV in specific color/spec combo and found one at an out-of-my-area dealer that hits all the marks except for the caliper color ... it is stock red instead of the yellow I want. The dealer has offered to swap out the calipers for the color I want. Any reason not to do this? And how to confirm that they actually swapped instead of repainted the calipers? (I ask this last question because that is what they originally suggested, which I told them was a non-starter).
 

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I don’t see any issue with this. I doubt they would bother repainting especially since it would be difficult to do so properly and still keep the “Alfa Romeo” printed on the the calipers.
 

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Thanks ... that's what I figured but helps to hear a second. Sadly though it is not meant to be. Talked the dealer again after I posted the query to get down to brass tacks and turns out he omitted to mention that they want $15K over the MSRP to do that. I spit out my coffee laughing and told him good luck with that. So the hunt continues ...
 

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Thanks ... that's what I figured but helps to hear a second. Sadly though it is not meant to be. Talked the dealer again after I posted the query to get down to brass tacks and turns out he omitted to mention that they want $15K over the MSRP to do that. I spit out my coffee laughing and told him good luck with that. So the hunt continues ...
Hunt for another dealer or for a Giulia spec'd the way you want it?
 

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lol both! Mostly the car though. I was going to do a factory order but the 4-5 month wait time seems like it could push delivery close to the end of the builds for this model year. So if I can't find what I want out there now I will just wait for the summer and either scoop one up at a discount or try to get in the first wave of factory orders for the '19s.
 

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This is an issue with the dealer orders of the first 2 years. I special ordered precisely to avoid this. However, if you can get some savings off a 2017 go ahead and do it. Save your originals or sell them if you must. Saving them is better for value. An irreversible change will lower the value of the car.
 

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FWIW my dealership had mine painted for me at no cost. They were yellow and I wanted red, so they color matched the red caliper color from another Giulia and were able to measure and recreate the Alfa Romeo script text as well. It's been 4 months now and the calipers/paint/logos are still in perfect condition.
 

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Good point. Parts guy at Ferrari of NE said they have the hi temp stickers to reproduce the script. Alfa probably does too. A good project for winter if you don't have to drive it. Aston Martin dealer here said they could do mine on the 360 about a grand? That was a long time ago and I was thinking of buying extras to preserve the build sheet. Not sure of the numbers.
 

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A lot less work (not to mention fewer potential problems) to repaint rather than replace calipers.
 

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How much are the red calipers to buy? Can’t believe they are $15,000.
The $15K was just what the dealer wants to get over MSRP ... not the cost of the brakes, just explains why he was so willing to swap them out for the right color. This post on the brembo site is what made me refuse the original offer to repaint them (and made me surprised the dealer would suggest it in the first place). YMMV.

http://www.brembo.com/en/company/news/5-reasons-not-to-use-repainted-brake-calipers-brembo
 

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A lot less work (not to mention fewer potential problems) to repaint rather than replace calipers.
Are you sure about that? There's maybe a handful of pros in the USA that can recreate the quality of the original Brembo caliper paint finish. To do so they will remove the calipers and completely disassemble them. It is a painstaking process. Meanwhile, brand new OEM Brembo 6-piston brake calipers in red, black or yellow with Alfa Romeo script for the standard steel brakes can be had for ~$1,200 each. The 4-piston Brembo calipers for the base and Ti cars can be had for ~$600 (silver) to ~$850 (color). Dealer cost is certainly even less. So by the time you figure in labor and risk, it just makes sense to swap on brand new parts.

I'm surprised a dealer would be willing to assume the liability associated with refinishing the stock brake calipers. Generally speaking, unless one takes exceptional care, it is difficult to improve upon most factory finishes in the field. And I suspect that most aftermarket paint jobs won't last as long or look as good as OEM. That being said, the exterior body paint finish on most cars these days CAN be improved with a high-quality detail that includes proper paint correction and a high quality hydrophobic ceramic coating like Opti-Coat Pro + properly applied and cured to improve the performance of the clear coat.

See for yourself what Brembo has to say about this subject:
http://www.brembo.com/en/company/news/5-reasons-not-to-use-repainted-brake-calipers-brembo
 

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I'm sure a dealer would attempt to paint to make a sale and boost their revenue.
 

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For anyone else interested in swapping brake calipers to get a different color, here are the part numbers. I'm not exactly certain what the codes mean. My best guess it that BRD, BRM and BR4 refer to the different brake setups (2.0L, QV CCM and QV steel, respectively). XS9, XSP, XTK and XTL must refer to the paint finish. My guess is that XTK is base silver. Not sure yet what codes are for red, black or yellow.

005 - Brakes; 100 - Front Brakes; 105 - Brakes Front, [BRD] 2.0L 4-piston Brembos w/ steel rotors
CALIPER ASSEMBLY,Disc Brake,Front,Without Brake Pads
Left,[XS9] 68317360AA List $745 Sale $518.52
Left,[XSP] 68317622AA List $727 Sale $505.76
Left,[XTK] 68317359AA List $662 Sale $460.52
Left,[XTL] 68317363AA List $752 Sale $523.16
Right,[XS9] 68317361AA List $752 Sale $523.16
Right,[XSP] 68317362AA List $752 Sale $523.16
Right,[XTK] 68317621AA List $639 Sale $444.28
Right,[XTL] 68317623AA List $745 Sale $518.52

005 - Brakes; 100 - Front Brakes; 106 - Brakes Front, [BRM] 2.9L Quadrifoglio 6-piston Brembos w/ CCM rotors
CALIPER ASSEMBLY,Disc Brake,Front,Without Brake Pads
Left,[XS9] 68309127AA List $1695 Sale $1177.40
Left,[XSP] 68309159AA List $1795 Sale $1247
Left,[XTL] 68309160AA List $1795 Sale $1247
Right,[XS9] 68309158AA List $1695 Sale $1177.40
Right,[XSP] 68309124AA List $1810 Sale $1258.60
Right,[XTL] 68309125AA List $1810 Sale $1258.60

005 - Brakes; 100 - Front Brakes; 107 - Brakes Front, [BR4] 2.9L Quadrifoglio 4-piston Brembos w/ steel rotors
CALIPER ASSEMBLY,Disc Brake,Front,Without Brake Pads
Left,[XS9] 68309121AA List $1090 Sale $758.64
Left,[XSP] 68309162AA List $1200 Sale $835.20
Left,[XTL] 68309119AA List $1205 Sale $836.36
Right,[XS9] 68309161AA List $1090 Sale $758.64
Right,[XSP] 68309118AA List $1205 Sale $836.36
Right,[XTL] 68309163AAList $1195 Sale $829.40
 

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Good guess.

XTK = calipers silver w/ black script
XS9 = calipers gloss black w/white script
XSP = calipers gloss red w/white script
XTL = calipers gloss yellow w/black script
 

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For anyone else interested in swapping brake calipers to get a different color, here are the part numbers. I'm not exactly certain what the codes mean. My best guess it that BRD, BRM and BR4 refer to the different brake setups (2.0L, QV CCM and QV steel, respectively). XS9, XSP, XTK and XTL must refer to the paint finish. My guess is that XTK is base silver. Not sure yet what codes are for red, black or yellow.

005 - Brakes; 100 - Front Brakes; 105 - Brakes Front, [BRD] 2.0L 4-piston Brembos w/ steel rotors
CALIPER ASSEMBLY,Disc Brake,Front,Without Brake Pads
Left,[XS9] 68317360AA List $745 Sale $518.52
Left,[XSP] 68317622AA List $727 Sale $505.76
Left,[XTK] 68317359AA List $662 Sale $460.52
Left,[XTL] 68317363AA List $752 Sale $523.16
Right,[XS9] 68317361AA List $752 Sale $523.16
Right,[XSP] 68317362AA List $752 Sale $523.16
Right,[XTK] 68317621AA List $639 Sale $444.28
Right,[XTL] 68317623AA List $745 Sale $518.52

005 - Brakes; 100 - Front Brakes; 106 - Brakes Front, [BRM] 2.9L Quadrifoglio 6-piston Brembos w/ CCM rotors
CALIPER ASSEMBLY,Disc Brake,Front,Without Brake Pads
Left,[XS9] 68309127AA List $1695 Sale $1177.40
Left,[XSP] 68309159AA List $1795 Sale $1247
Left,[XTL] 68309160AA List $1795 Sale $1247
Right,[XS9] 68309158AA List $1695 Sale $1177.40
Right,[XSP] 68309124AA List $1810 Sale $1258.60
Right,[XTL] 68309125AA List $1810 Sale $1258.60

005 - Brakes; 100 - Front Brakes; 107 - Brakes Front, [BR4] 2.9L Quadrifoglio 4-piston Brembos w/ steel rotors
CALIPER ASSEMBLY,Disc Brake,Front,Without Brake Pads
Left,[XS9] 68309121AA List $1090 Sale $758.64
Left,[XSP] 68309162AA List $1200 Sale $835.20
Left,[XTL] 68309119AA List $1205 Sale $836.36
Right,[XS9] 68309161AA List $1090 Sale $758.64
Right,[XSP] 68309118AA List $1205 Sale $836.36
Right,[XTL] 68309163AAList $1195 Sale $829.40
Do you have the part numbers for the rears?
 

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