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I have not used a radar detector at least in the last 15 years. Somehow I've managed to get by without one.
I'm thinking about getting a quality unit for the Quad.

A few questions for those who are informed on this subject:

1. Remote installed or windscreen mounted considering QV's IR windscreen?
2. Professional installation or DIY?
3. Which brands & models are the best?
4. I think in Texas Laser Jammers are illegal, but some people get them as "parking sensors" ... thoughts for/against?
5. Front + Rear or front only (what are the best installation locations for front/rear)

Please share photos if you can. Thanks.

I appreciate your input.
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I have not used a radar detector at least in the last 15 years. Somehow I've managed to get by without one.
I'm thinking about getting a quality unit for the Quad.

A few questions for those who are informed on this subject:

1. Remote installed or windscreen mounted considering QV's IR windscreen?
2. Professional installation or DIY?
3. Which brands & models are the best?
4. I think in Texas Laser Jammers are illegal, but some people get them as "parking sensors" ... thoughts for/against?
5. Front + Rear or front only (what are the best installation locations for front/rear)

Please share photos if you can. Thanks.

I appreciate your input.
Cheers!
1: Can't answer, I use windshield mounted on base model Q4

2: If windshield mount, you can just plug it in, or hardwire it (if you have experience which most seem to, give it a go yourself, we have extensive documentation on this forum on how to do it)

3: I use Valentine 1, after having directional arrows I could not imagine having a detector without it. I regularly pick up police around a mile away (a few times, more) and only programmed it from the unit itself based on VortexRadar's video on YouTube (he's an authority on CMs, go look him up) ... Other good option is Escort Max360 (with arrows, very very useful) ... https://www.vortexradar.com/ -- 360 and V1 only options I would consider, I prefer V1 because of all the tinkering you could do ... If you want to know what bands your local cops use there is also a spreadsheet I can find for you

4: I support it for sure, they are boxed as parking sensors and are used everywhere. Best and only ones I would spend money on is AntiLaser Priority. You ought to get a professional shop to do this for sure, and it's very expensive but very effective.

5: Money no object, obviously front and rear. I see room for probably 1 ALP head per lower grille (2 heads as there are two lower grilles) and mount them at the top of the grilles. I am not sure if another head in the bottom of the 'scudetto' would fit or be effective, I don't know. A shop would find the best location for them in terms of horizontal position. Mount 2 rear near the corners of the license plate area (near taillights)

Overall, I personally would prefer to have a shop do all the work (plus I am incompetent anyway). If you're going to shell out thousands for a car loaded with countermeasures might as well do it once, do it right

I don't have any real pictures you would find useful yet. I have the V1 installed but am rewiring it once the temperatures aren't in the negatives here anymore ... lol
 

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Thank you for your detailed reply. I appreciate it.
I've watched some of Vortex Radar's youtube videos. He seems to know what he is talking about.
For windscreen mounted units he is now a fan of Uniden R3 apparently.

I am just not sure whether QV's IR windscreen will interfere with a windscreen mounted unit.
Plus the remote installed units are stealthy, so that can be a good thing.

I've heard good things about ALP, so its good to hear more positive comments from you.
If I decide to get a remote unit, I think I'll have to get professional installation for sure, instead of doing a sloppy job myself.

Thanks again!
 

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I am just not sure whether QV's IR windscreen will interfere with a windscreen mounted unit.
I am sure they do to some extent - supposedly they reduce range and sensitivity.

However in practice I don't really notice a reduction in range with my radar detector in my QV compared to other cars without the IR glass. I was expecting a dramatic difference and I have not seen it.
 

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IR is a specific range in the electromagnetic spectrum. Researching a little because it has been a while since I studied EM radiation a windshield with such coating would affect the laser sensitivity.....

So is there a way to get the V1 and ALP to coexist? I only saw one video where a guy shows the ALP constantly setting off the V1 laser alert?
 

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I've used the V1 in our QV with no noticeable reduction in sensitivity. I mounted it high on the passenger side tight against the mirror. I was able to snake the power cord along the windshield, down the a-pillar, and along trim at door edges and under the seat to the power outlet in center console, rear.

Downside for me was using up one of the USB outlets and having the unit mounted inside the car with only suction cups. I suppose I could have done different power connect, and mount, but still distrust having that little plastic brick inside passenger compartment. In an accident, that thing will fly...

I also like the added bonus of a laser shifter for those states where its legal, so we had the Escort MAX ci 360 installed. It is more sensitive than the V1 was (detects known falses and real signals earlier) and the display is more informative, giving info about multiple signals,direction,strength. I also like the voice alert to signal type and direction in addition to the different tones emitted when a signal is detected. Ability to filter out specific bands of X and XA prevents it from false alerts caused by the adaptive cruise on our and other cars while still alerting to both bands when used by law enforcement types.

The display fits cleanly above the rear view mirror, the control mounted nicely to the steering column, and the detectors/emitters are cleanly mounted outside where most won't ever notice them. not inexpensive, but then neither are the tickets and insurance rate increases it helps to keep at bay.
 

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IR is a specific range in the electromagnetic spectrum. Researching a little because it has been a while since I studied EM radiation a windshield with such coating would affect the laser sensitivity.....

So is there a way to get the V1 and ALP to coexist? I only saw one video where a guy shows the ALP constantly setting off the V1 laser alert?
IR is generally considered to start at about 300GHz while the Ka RADAR band extends to 36GHz. That said, ordinary glass is opaque to low frequency (far) IR while the IR windshield is undoubtedly designed to reflect high frequency (near) IR (300THz). If I aim my FLIR (far IR camera) at a window in my house all I see is my reflection, both the low-E (infrared reflecting) glass and the plain glass. I expect that Ka band RADAR does not pass through the windshield (IR or otherwise) unattenuated. OTOH, a remote mounted detector is either behind the front fascia (it is unclear to me how well Ka band RADAR penetrates paint and plastic) or exposed to dirt and probably hard to clean.

Some Escort models are designed to coexist with ALP.
 

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My Escort generates constant K-band alerts apparently from the driver assist package. Are others having this problem? Is there a solution?
 

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My Escort generates constant K-band alerts apparently from the driver assist package. Are others having this problem? Is there a solution?
I'm afraid if Escort doesn't have an update available, then you'd probably need a new one that can screen driver assistance out. Call them with your model/SN.
 

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Thank you for your detailed reply. I appreciate it.
I've watched some of Vortex Radar's youtube videos. He seems to know what he is talking about.
For windscreen mounted units he is now a fan of Uniden R3 apparently.

I am just not sure whether QV's IR windscreen will interfere with a windscreen mounted unit.
Plus the remote installed units are stealthy, so that can be a good thing.

I've heard good things about ALP, so its good to hear more positive comments from you.
If I decide to get a remote unit, I think I'll have to get professional installation for sure, instead of doing a sloppy job myself.

Thanks again!
R3 is great, but you want directional arrows!

Best of luck, glad I could help a little
 

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So is there a way to get the V1 and ALP to coexist? I only saw one video where a guy shows the ALP constantly setting off the V1 laser alert?
You've only seen one video with this because that guy has a problem with his unit I think, whether it be the V1 or the ALP, because I have never heard of this problem other than when you've mentioned it
 

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You've only seen one video with this because that guy has a problem with his unit I think, whether it be the V1 or the ALP, because I have never heard of this problem other than when you've mentioned it
I've been a long time customer of V1. There was a version that constantly went off, and I just didn't speed....

I wanted some information that they work together well nowadays. There is a V1 connection on the RG module....

If you noted there shouldn't be a problem before and I missed it, I apologize for that....
 

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I've been a long time customer of V1. There was a version that constantly went off, and I just didn't speed....

I wanted some information that they work together well nowadays. There is a V1 connection on the RG module....

If you noted there shouldn't be a problem before and I missed it, I apologize for that....
I apologize if I seemed rude, but I mean that this problem should not occur. Your ALP only jams when it detects laser in the first place, which would mean that you wouldn't have 'constantly going off' -- if you were jamming laser, maybe your V1 picks it up, but it only jams for a short period of time as you know.

There is a kid at my school who drives a new XC60. If he drives behind me, my V1 will go off basically constantly detecting laser because of the Volvo BSM systems (typical). Maybe a car was behind you with similar tech. Maybe you need to update your V1 to latest version?

I am not an expert in this stuff, but I am very interested and would like to know more too
 

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No problem.

I went to search and AL priority website says they constantly blast 905nm as they are parking sensors. I searched and found WiKi claims LIDAR runs on 905nm. If there is a way to turn off Laser alert on the V1, which I have the latest last time I checked, with Junk fighter turned on, then everything will be well. V1 prioritizes alerts so if it is constantly showing laser you aren't being protected from the rest...
 

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No problem.

I went to search and AL priority website says they constantly blast 905nm as they are parking sensors. I searched and found WiKi claims LIDAR runs on 905nm. If there is a way to turn off Laser alert on the V1, which I have the latest last time I checked, with Junk fighter turned on, then everything will be well. V1 prioritizes alerts so if it is constantly showing laser you aren't being protected from the rest...
Makes sense. And yeah you can turn off laser alerts on the V1 for sure even in manual programming, and if you have jammers, you really don't need it anyway then. The jammers know which gun is shooting you and how it's shooting and will act accordingly. I like the V1 the best, a lot of great features and tinkering functionality
 

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We may have just dawned on why AL Priority is the best. Since it is always sending out 905nm then it has a head start in jamming/confusing a gun, instead of just reacting to a hit...

Thanks for the info about turning off Laser, maybe that YouTuber didn't have that option, or didn't know how to....
 

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We may have just dawned on why AL Priority is the best. Since it is always sending out 905nm then it has a head start in jamming/confusing a gun, instead of just reacting to a hit...

Thanks for the info about turning off Laser, maybe that YouTuber didn't have that option, or didn't know how to....
VortexRadar has a great video on how to manually set up a V1, it's about 30 min long, if you are wondering ... includes disabling certain bands alerts, etc ... I turned off X band because it's not used anywhere I go, and same with K ... but I feel like I've seen the occasional K alert from town cops so I leave it on. If I had the time and patience I would filter out certain bands of K (like the ones supermarkets use on their doors) and leave others ... this requires something like YaV1 or V1connection app ... Cool but I don't need to geek out that much
 

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Cool.

From the V1 programming/version matrix it's nice to verify that. (I have/had no idea what a YaV1 is).

We have light being flashed upon us. Inside any countermeasure is a "computer" trying to respond. (My assumption: This computer functions on flowing electrons.) While close, electrons do have some mass, so they are slower than light, and the goal is to somehow disrupt that light signal on it's way back. Unless the manufacturer claims some sort of "light" based computer processor, there's really not much hope in my opinion, and even then the light/laser is already on it's way back. Light being the fastest of all...

Sorry Star Trek fans.....
 

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Cool.

From the V1 programming/version matrix it's nice to verify that. (I have/had no idea what a YaV1 is).

We have light being flashed upon us. Inside any countermeasure is a "computer" trying to respond. (My assumption: This computer functions on flowing electrons.) While close, electrons do have some mass, so they are slower than light, and the goal is to somehow disrupt that light signal on it's way back. Unless the manufacturer claims some sort of "light" based computer processor, there's really not much hope in my opinion, and even then the light/laser is already on it's way back. Light being the fastest of all...

Sorry Star Trek fans.....
Simplistic and inaccurate. A return of any light back to the receiver is not sufficient, the receiver must get said light for long enough to make a measurement. The weaker the signal (greater distance) the longer the measurement time needs to be to clear up noise. What is needed is a device that disrupts the signal faster than the measurement time of the receiver. The target (your car) is at an advantage because the signal has only traveled half of the distance (it is stronger), the response does not need to stand up in court, and the response can be overwhelming. OTOH, if the response is good and bright the detection unit might figure that out and then you get stopped and cited for having an illegal jammer rather than for speeding.

I am not familiar with the measurement times or the response times of such equipment, so I cannot say much more than this.

What we really need is a "performance" license class and a corresponding transponder that can be put in the car so that some people can drive faster (within reason) than others. An average driver who is speeding is putting other people's lives and lively hoods at unreasonable risk, which is the major point of speed limits in the first place.
 

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The German and Italian car clubs in my state have reported diminished efficacy with radar detectors because of the rapidly increasing use of "instant on" by law enforcement. By the the time your apparatus has detected this, it's too late. Have seen some ads for products that "coat" your headlights and license plate because it's claimed that's what the cops aim at, but I don't know much more. A couple of months ago a good friend had to spend the night in the slammer while on the tail-end of a BMW ride.
 
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