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Hi everyone,

I just recently took delivery of a 2018 Ti AWD and I have a question about braking feel and travel. During normal braking I feel like I have to depress the brake pedal significantly before it bites and come to a stop. Am I the only one feeling as if the braking system on these cars are not up to standard?

I have a 2017 Audi S3 which is only a single piston system in the front and does a fantastic job, but the Giulia needs much more pedal travel to stop the car.

Let me know what you guys think.
 

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doesn't sound right at all, my experience is quite the opposite to that. I'd get them to take a look at that, wonder if there's air in your lines or something odd like that.
 

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Brake peddle travel is by no means standardized, so it should not be a surprise if the travel is different than your other vehicles. What is important is if the vehicle stops when you push the peddle and that the amount of travel and force is consistent from time to time. Giulia's brakes have a fairly soft feel, particularly compared to my other vehicles.
 

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Hi everyone,

I just recently took delivery of a 2018 Ti AWD and I have a question about braking feel and travel. During normal braking I feel like I have to depress the brake pedal significantly before it bites and come to a stop. Am I the only one feeling as if the braking system on these cars are not up to standard?

I have a 2017 Audi S3 which is only a single piston system in the front and does a fantastic job, but the Giulia needs much more pedal travel to stop the car.

Let me know what you guys think.
S3 has very short travel and grabby brakes hence different feeling....Audis are all over tge place with their feel though, my S6 brakes were so grabby that you needed some time to learn how to brake in civilized manner, S4 after that was completelly different with no dust pads and much later and softer initial bite....I got used to Giulia brake feel very quickly, stil sometimes feels like theybare mushy a bit but that comes with electrohydraulic system, it doesnt have completely consistent feel all the time
 

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Thanks for the reply everyone.
I have about 800 miles on the car right now, so I believe the brake system should be well broken-in. I will drive the car a bit more, and if it does not improve, I will take it in for service. Perhaps my car was one of the cars that had contaminated brake fluid thus causing this braking issue.

I've had numerous performance cars and this is the first car with this type of braking feel/performance, but it could be that I haven't gotten used to the electro-hydraulic system yet.
 

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Thanks for the reply everyone.
I have about 800 miles on the car right now, so I believe the brake system should be well broken-in. I will drive the car a bit more, and if it does not improve, I will take it in for service. Perhaps my car was one of the cars that had contaminated brake fluid thus causing this braking issue.

I've had numerous performance cars and this is the first car with this type of braking feel/performance, but it could be that I haven't gotten used to the electro-hydraulic system yet.
What is the Build date on your car?
 

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Hi everyone,

I just recently took delivery of a 2018 Ti AWD and I have a question about braking feel and travel. During normal braking I feel like I have to depress the brake pedal significantly before it bites and come to a stop. Am I the only one feeling as if the braking system on these cars are not up to standard?

I have a 2017 Audi S3 which is only a single piston system in the front and does a fantastic job, but the Giulia needs much more pedal travel to stop the car.

Let me know what you guys think.
Hello kpex76,

Should you decide to take it in, our team is available via direct message. We can get this over to a Case Specialist for further handling.

Jasmine
Alfa Romeo Social Care Specialist
 

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I totally agree with you. I have a 2016 Mercedes C300 sport as well and am use to those brakes. The brakes on my new Alfa are totally different. I feel like (compared to my Benz) that I have to slam on them to get a reaction. I thought it was just me.
 

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Brake pedal effort, travel, feel and system response are certainly characteristics that each vehicle development team carefully selects. They benchmark against competitors and have internal targets based on performance, cost and on maintaining certain brand traits that exist throughout all models within their brand portfolio. BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Subaru, Cadillac, Lexus and Alfa brakes all feel different. Also keep in mind this is the first platform to use Continental’s latest brake by wire technology, so it’s bound to be somewhat different than what you’re used to with a conventional direct acting hydraulic system with vacuum brake power assist.

In my experience the Alfa system is absolutely fine for a performance street car. It’s got way more travel then a race car would have and the pedal effort is slightly on the higher side. Personally, I wouldn’t mind a little more initial bite but I also don’t like brakes that are too grabby or too touchy (e.g. too much servo effect).
 

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I agree with you. It would be nice to have more initial bite. The braking performance so far has been what I would call it as "adequate" but I expecting a bit more performance since they are 4 piston Brembos.
 

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This is a brake-by-wire system. The pedal moves an electronic rheostat (or some sort of switch) that in turn opens a hydraulic valve. There is a computer control between these tow points and hydraulic system including an accumulator. The ABS and ECS that the brakes work with is rather extensive. There are miles of lines looping all around going through an assortment of controls with many, many places that air can be trapped.

Yes, there could be air in the lines. There could also be a few other issues that need an adjustment or something. It's possible that there is an TSB or RRT that address this. let the dealer take a look at this. Brakes are nothing to take for granted.

We have to Ti (RWD) and the brake pedal does not travel very far when the brakes start working. They don't have the same feel as the other cars I'm used to driving, but we've never had an issue or complaint.
 

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At times I find the brakes grabby (particularly right after starting and when parking) while at others I find I need to convey a little urgency. Either way, I adapt quickly and don't bobble my passengers' heads too often.
 

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Totally agree with you on the soft brake feel. I picked up a 2018 TI sport Q4 last week and am still adjusting. I came from a 2008 BMW 328xi which had immediate bite on braking. With the Giulia I get the sensation that the bite of the brakes increases as you slow, so I am pressing hard at the beginning but then need to let up on the brakes as I slow. This is the opposite of my BMW where I would press lightly, then more as I slow to come to complete stop. Hopefully it just takes from getting use to.
 

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After 1 week and 600 miles I find the brakes to be too soft with a perfectly reasonable amount of travel. I can apply a lot of force with my foot (after all, I walk on those feet) and don't want a brake pedal that takes single digit pounds of force (or is it less than a pound?) to actuate. I wonder if a "tune" can increase the force? Like others I find that it is difficult to stop the car without jerking at the end. I have found that this does not appear to be the fault of the brakes:

To come to a smooth stop I push the shift lever forward so that when the speed is low enough the transmission shifts to neutral rather than jerking into 1st. With this method I find that the stop is perfectly smooth.

Yes, I have disabled emergency auto braking.
 
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