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I will start this thread by stating how immensely useful I have found it both the year before I pulled the trigger on my Ti back in late ’18 and up until now for its resources, the massive shared passions, thought provoking often very technical commentary about the cars and the brand, and without doubt some humor. Grateful!

Now, as my lease runs its course with about 5 mos left, I stand on a precipice looking at advice at what to do.

Here are my options:

1) Silverstone Grey red interior, 37k miles (yes I have already exceeded the #), Sport Perf, sunroof, nero edizione. Awesome ride, great shape, no accidents or even any major dings. Actually best car I have ever owned. Buy it out for ~$25k? It needs new brakes $2500, new tires, that’s about it. Runs great. Keep it, mod it? Already did the major service and of course all recalls. It burns a bit of oil. But then again don’t all turbos?

2) Buy a used Quad: I have resided that if I go this route, I want no older than a 2020 since I like the new shifter. Don’t really care about the touchscreen but sure, I will take it. There are a few in the market right now, Vesuvio Gray, red or yellow calipers. Question is, the ones I like are out of state and seems like they will not buy out my lease due to Ma rules based on a few calls already. Will there be one I like in Jan/Feb?

3) Order a 2022 and run my lease out taking a chance it is delayed and I am without an Alfa for a month or two. But here is the big issue and maybe news to some:
a. Stellantis has markedly reduced the ordering options to “save money”
i. No yellow calipers, red is an upcharge. Basic order comes anodized. So I guess I could get them powder coated. Need some thoughts on this detail.
ii. No green/white stitching or any color stitching other than boring black/grey on regular seats
iii. Only Sparcos come green/white – problem with Sparcos is (perhaps) comfort but most importantly in New England, they are not heated. There are many months where my tushy needs heat! Since I am using this as a daily, this is pretty damn important. (yes, I said it twice)
iv. Technico bright aluminum is standard, dark 5 whole is an upcharge. I can live with this. I like the dark 5 whole.
b. From stories I have heard at the dealer, orders are easily cancelled if they change their minds about the feature they feel no longer fits in their sales model and supply chain dynamics. I am already a bit frustrated with the sharp change in options since I started this process but will access my inner Tony Soprano if my effin order is cancelled some months in!
4) Buy a new one off a lot somewhere. No kidding but one out-of-state dealer was happily offering me over MSRP. Che c****o fa! After my initial disgust, I worked the math and the hassle of shipping, registering, not seeing it first, waiting and then having two cars (which will certainly irk my wife) through my thick skull and I am not too keen on this unless someone can spell out that it is not that bad as I think.

I welcome thoughts and insight. I cannot believe that I am the only one in this predicament and can hopefully share their experience.
 

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I'd probably order a car and run out your current lease. There aren't any bargains out there in the used market right now.

I thought a lot of the cancelled orders were because of the 2021 to 2022 transition. Hopefully not a problem now. The lack of interior colored stitching and yellow calipers does suck. Alfa isnt making it easy to retain devoted customers.
 

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Just trying to give an option. You can purchase heated seat pads. Nothing fancy but it does the job. You will only need it part of the year. This may allow you to get the Sparcos and the interior you want.
 

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Ordering new always an option, but no guarantees. Dealer may sell you the moon, but it's sketchy right now ordering a new car on a timeline unless you are willing to wait or be disappointed.

Used car market, it's supply and demand....not a lot of inventory and prices have gone up. There may be some cars available in Jan/Feb and maybe prices will have stabilized but it's anyone's guess.

You can keep your car but what do you really want? Don't bother keeping it if you really want a Quad or something else.
 

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Thanks for the quick responses. I will look into heated seat pads @Pegasi. The sparcos do really look cool so thats an option.

@kumar_a ordering might be the best bet and use of my funds, but to @DottoreSpagnoli‘s point, a gamble in terms of timing. Yes, I really want a Quad. It is the right way to go. But as a sort-of-wiseman said once “Patience, Grasshopper”
 

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There are several supply chain issues impacting automotive. Ford just announced their quarterly sales were down 33% due to chip shortages. There are still major issues in the metals, chemicals, and transportation providers. A new order 2022 may take longer to show up than you would hope. I would buy something that you know already exists!
 

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I will start this thread by stating how immensely useful I have found it both the year before I pulled the trigger on my Ti back in late ’18 and up until now for its resources, the massive shared passions, thought provoking often very technical commentary about the cars and the brand, and without doubt some humor. Grateful!

Now, as my lease runs its course with about 5 mos left, I stand on a precipice looking at advice at what to do.

Here are my options:

1) Silverstone Grey red interior, 37k miles (yes I have already exceeded the #), Sport Perf, sunroof, nero edizione. Awesome ride, great shape, no accidents or even any major dings. Actually best car I have ever owned. Buy it out for ~$25k? It needs new brakes $2500, new tires, that’s about it. Runs great. Keep it, mod it? Already did the major service and of course all recalls. It burns a bit of oil. But then again don’t all turbos?

2) Buy a used Quad: I have resided that if I go this route, I want no older than a 2020 since I like the new shifter. Don’t really care about the touchscreen but sure, I will take it. There are a few in the market right now, Vesuvio Gray, red or yellow calipers. Question is, the ones I like are out of state and seems like they will not buy out my lease due to Ma rules based on a few calls already. Will there be one I like in Jan/Feb?

3) Order a 2022 and run my lease out taking a chance it is delayed and I am without an Alfa for a month or two. But here is the big issue and maybe news to some:
a. Stellantis has markedly reduced the ordering options to “save money”
i. No yellow calipers, red is an upcharge. Basic order comes anodized. So I guess I could get them powder coated. Need some thoughts on this detail.
ii. No green/white stitching or any color stitching other than boring black/grey on regular seats
iii. Only Sparcos come green/white – problem with Sparcos is (perhaps) comfort but most importantly in New England, they are not heated. There are many months where my tushy needs heat! Since I am using this as a daily, this is pretty damn important. (yes, I said it twice)
iv. Technico bright aluminum is standard, dark 5 whole is an upcharge. I can live with this. I like the dark 5 whole.
b. From stories I have heard at the dealer, orders are easily cancelled if they change their minds about the feature they feel no longer fits in their sales model and supply chain dynamics. I am already a bit frustrated with the sharp change in options since I started this process but will access my inner Tony Soprano if my effin order is cancelled some months in!
4) Buy a new one off a lot somewhere. No kidding but one out-of-state dealer was happily offering me over MSRP. Che c****o fa! After my initial disgust, I worked the math and the hassle of shipping, registering, not seeing it first, waiting and then having two cars (which will certainly irk my wife) through my thick skull and I am not too keen on this unless someone can spell out that it is not that bad as I think.

I welcome thoughts and insight. I cannot believe that I am the only one in this predicament and can hopefully share their experience.
casino plant is shutdown again due to chip shortage & supply issue.

if you have lease thru Chrysler Capital and order new vehicle, they will extend your lease until your new vehicle arrives.
how do i know? i asked before to extend lease on my 2018. or they will extend by 3 month if you don't order anything.
if it's thru ally, i think 3 month max whether u order or not.

seat pads might be an option, but i need/want heated steering wheel more so no sparcos for me.
i've been searching for 2020 rosso comp + yellow ccb + exposed cf roof + carbon pkg + full assist pkg, none available.
there are few that miss thing or 2, but they want your arm & leg for it.
i will gladly wait year or 2 for market/dust to settle back down and get it as i don't need one right now.
it's more of want vs need.

buyout on your lease is cheaper than market value, there is no incentive on current lease so it doesn't help either.
if you don't need new one right away, keep and avoid penalty is your best option imo
 

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18 and lower it or 19 and get sgw
 

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My lease is ending and I just went with a 22 quad and am waiting on it as well, also in New England.
As an FYI the sparcos are extremely comfortable. Going back to back in the sparcos and stock sport seats, you barely notice a difference, the sparcos are so comfortable.
 

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Update: an out of state dealer with a 21 Quad came to their senses (i.e., lessened their greed), reduced the price on a Vesuvio, yellow calipers, g/white stitched normal seats and did the deal. Ally confirmed they will not penalize me on the lease ground since I am financing with them which is cool and I think a point worth sharing.

Yes, transport will cost, but I rationalized that if I kept the Ti had to do brakes, another oil change, more mileage and maybe tires while I wait for a 22 to arrive, my fuzzy math looks like I am ahead.

When @xc1097 mentioned the Cassino factory was shut down, another dealer may get one Quad allocated a month if they ask, and hearing a 21 Stelvio shows up 4 mos late, I figured a May maybe June time frame for a new Quad might not be the best path for my Alfa ocd frame of mind.

So, trigger pulled, papers signed, funds sent, I should see the car in about a week or so.

Thanks all for being a thought and sound board for my ‘plight’

Now about that break in period...
 
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That spec was the first QV I attempted to purchase. Looks good! I strictly followed the engine break in procedure but I know there is a whole lot of opinion out there about that.
 
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