AlfaYoni....I see you're in NY (somewhere....it's a big state ! )....if you're "Downstate" hope you consider joining NYAROC !! ....Regarding your previous Alfas...very nice indeed (as is your new Giulia)....The Milano is a VERDE !! Those were great drivers....not sure though if it had red stitching anywhere ? ...The 164 S has the optional Recaro seats !!! The regular "S" seats were great, but the optional Recaros were outrageous....and if memory serves me right they were fairly pricey for the day (I think they were a $3 K upgrade).....In any event, welcome to the Forum....D