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I just got a warning light today saying "max oil level exceeded". It came out of nowhere and threw on the check engine light a few mins later that put the car stuck in natural mode. The car drove fine before and afterwards but the lights won't go away.

I've yet to have an oil change and haven't added anything myself, so I'm not sure how the level could go up.

I've tried searching and haven't found anything similar in the forums. Does anyone have an idea why or what would be causing this? And is the car safe to drive without risking serious damage? I tried getting an accurate oil level reading by leaving the car idling on a flat surface for ten mins as said to do on the oil level screen. that didn't change anything, even after shutting the car off and turning it back on.

I figure I'll call the dealer in the morning and get it in for a servicing. I'm not sure what else to do at this point.
 

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dealer for sure. I have read on here someones was oddly overfilled at the dealer and passed them off... so get that checked out right away. Overfilling can cause serious damage and they will need to drain it if that's the case. Hopefully it's something like a software update glitch which isn't reading properly, but if they have overfilled it, i'd look for another dealer to service yours.

Let us know!
 

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Please let us know what the dealer say and does.
 

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kev,
To begin, please state the year and model of your Giulia with your posts. As you may know, there are two different available engines for the Giulia. You can easily create a signature that automatically ends your posts with this information.
Before you received this "max oil level exceeded" message, had you ever checked your oil level?
It is certainly possible that you are experiencing an electronic malfunction. Likely.
It is also possible that your engine is leaking coolant into the engine sump and thus increasing the level. Unlikely.
Of course, with a new vehicle, under warranty, it would be best to have the Dealer diagnose, and document, and repair.
Please post the outcome.
Thanks,
 

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kev,
To begin, please state the year and model of your Giulia with your posts. As you may know, there are two different available engines for the Giulia. You can easily create a signature that automatically ends your posts with this information.
Before you received this "max oil level exceeded" message, had you ever checked your oil level?
It is certainly possible that you are experiencing an electronic malfunction. Likely.
It is also possible that your engine is leaking coolant into the engine sump and thus increasing the level. Unlikely.
Of course, with a new vehicle, under warranty, it would be best to have the Dealer diagnose, and document, and repair.
Please post the outcome.
Thanks,
It's a 2017 Giulia Ti Q4. I haven't checked the oil level other than in the infotainment screen that shows it. It's been completely normal up until yesterday. I had a couple updates done 2 weeks ago, so I'm hoping it's just a bad sensor or something. I had asked about an oil change and they said it wasn't needed due to the low miles, 4400.

I'm calling them this morning once they open up.
 

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It's a 2017 Giulia Ti Q4. I haven't checked the oil level other than in the infotainment screen that shows it. It's been completely normal up until yesterday. I had a couple updates done 2 weeks ago, so I'm hoping it's just a bad sensor or something. I had asked about an oil change and they said it wasn't needed due to the low miles, 4400.

I'm calling them this morning once they open up.
I had the same problem about 2 weeks ago. I took the car into the Dealer and Service said it turned out to be something with the sensor. Ended up having to empty the oil, then refilling and that "reset" the sensor. Hopefully that's the same issue for you - I've got your model vehicle as well 2017 Ti Q4 with just over 11,400 miles. I did have the 10k service done, and this happened after that.
 

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Had same issue after oil change. Tech drained small amount ( a few ml) of oil and reset system, cleared the light. Second oil change, same issue. Same fix, the sensor is REALLY sensitive.
 

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It's a 2017 Giulia Ti Q4. I haven't checked the oil level other than in the infotainment screen that shows it. It's been completely normal up until yesterday. I had a couple updates done 2 weeks ago, so I'm hoping it's just a bad sensor or something. I had asked about an oil change and they said it wasn't needed due to the low miles, 4400.

I'm calling them this morning once they open up.
The 2.0 four cylinder in the base and Ti does not have a dipstick. We must rely on the electronics being correct. :frown2:

The 2.9 V6 in the Quad does have an old school dipstick. :grin2:


I had the oil in our Ti Q2 changed at 800 miles. I had to pay for it though. Then at about 10,000 miles the car told me it was due for an oil change.
 

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I have a 2017 Giulia Q4 19" sport package. Car was serviced about 3 weeks ago & this sensor (exceeding oil level) went on today. Glad I found this thread on the forum. Too late to call the dealer, so will be calling bright & early Monday!
 

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I think the sensor IS sensitive. On my Quad, I took delivery of the car at mid level. Noticed some valve tap in the garage a few days later. Checked both the screen and the stick. Screen said mid, stick was completely clean! So I added tiny amounts very carefully and reset the screen with acc on, start, no brake. Manual says each graduation is 250 ml. So I added 0w40 in 200 ml shots. Screen did not change UNTIL 600 ml (3x) and I finally saw fresh yellow oil on the tip of the stick. I stopped, reset screen again and it finally said full. Checked stick again and it looked like it was covering the whole tab and full. So that was less than a liter from mid to full. Sounds much better but I still get some ticking and rattling under the hood. I attribute it to the turbos and belts. I DID get a low oil warning on a spirited drive through a rotary up here which caused me to check. It was due to g force and still solid on mid level screen before I added oil.
 

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If you have "valve tap" because you are low on oil, NOT GOOD.
May the Car Gods have pity on your engine.
My Kingdom for an oil pressure gauge.
But really, what a good opportunity for a mod.
An engine oil pressure sensor whose readings can be displayed somewhere in the cockpit, for the driver to easily view.
While I'm wishing, perhaps a new screen could be created ( and be easily accessed and displayed ) for the infotainment display.
It would have:
Engine oil pressure
Coolant temperature
Vacuum / boost values
Transmission fluid temperature
And configurable to add even more more!
Eurocompulsion.com are you listening?
 

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My wife got the Max Oil Level Exceeded warning on our 2018 Giuilia Ti yesterday afternoon. We had our first service (including first oil change) at about 9670 miles two weeks ago, and as of this morning when we're at 10779, so a bit over 1000 miles since they changed the oil. This is the first occurrence we've had of this warning (or any warning). Yesterday also happened to be the first nice day (70+ degrees F) that we've had since taking delivery of the car in November, I'm not sure what role ambient temperature played, if any... but the warning persisted this morning at 6:45AM when I checked again with an ambient temp of 44 degrees F (and the engine totally cold from sitting overnight on level ground).

Because we've gone 2 weeks / 1000+ miles since the actual oil change, I'm convinced that the oil level isn't exceeded and is probably fine. Our dealer has advised that we can keep driving without issue, they believe it to be sensor related, and I'll get it resolved (hopefully) in 2.5 weeks when we have to drive by the dealer on our way to a wedding.
 

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My wife got the Max Oil Level Exceeded warning on our 2018 Giuilia Ti yesterday afternoon. We had our first service (including first oil change) at about 9670 miles two weeks ago, and as of this morning when we're at 10779, so a bit over 1000 miles since they changed the oil. This is the first occurrence we've had of this warning (or any warning). Yesterday also happened to be the first nice day (70+ degrees F) that we've had since taking delivery of the car in November, I'm not sure what role ambient temperature played, if any... but the warning persisted this morning at 6:45AM when I checked again with an ambient temp of 44 degrees F (and the engine totally cold from sitting overnight on level ground).

Because we've gone 2 weeks / 1000+ miles since the actual oil change, I'm convinced that the oil level isn't exceeded and is probably fine. Our dealer has advised that we can keep driving without issue, they believe it to be sensor related, and I'll get it resolved (hopefully) in 2.5 weeks when we have to drive by the dealer on our way to a wedding.
Hello wbclassics,

Whenever you head back into the dealership, let us know. We're available via direct message and would like to get this escalated to a Case Specialist for further review.

Jasmine
Alfa Romeo Social Care Specialist
 
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I'm staring at my MY2018 Q4 front right lower corner of the engine and all I see is the front differential and steering rack. Perhaps this has to be reached from underneath, or the accessory belt cover needs to be removed to get to the oil level access port?

Anyway, I strongly suspect that dealers are simply refilling the system with the rated capacity of oil after an oil change. Since that rated capacity is for a new engine that has no oil in the "nooks and crannies", it is too much to add after an oil change.

It is not obvious to me if "add a little oil, then check the infotainment reading" is a viable procedure to determine the amount of oil to add during an oil change when the engine should not be started before the oil level is confirmed adequate.
 

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I'm staring at my MY2018 Q4 front right lower corner of the engine and all I see is the front differential and steering rack. Perhaps this has to be reached from underneath, or the accessory belt cover needs to be removed to get to the oil level access port?

Anyway, I strongly suspect that dealers are simply refilling the system with the rated capacity of oil after an oil change. Since that rated capacity is for a new engine that has no oil in the "nooks and crannies", it is too much to add after an oil change.

It is not obvious to me if "add a little oil, then check the infotainment reading" is a viable procedure to determine the amount of oil to add during an oil change when the engine should not be started before the oil level is confirmed adequate.
Somebody measure the length of that tool from seat to oil level. And easy tool to make. How much is the Mopar part?

Good Lord! $30 for a plastic stick? Measure a flat blade screwdriver, paint a grad mark on it. Done.

https://moparessentialtools.com/ite...mber=2025600210&type=tools&keyword=2025600210
Did this a few days ago so I measured the stick I made for the forum, we didn’t have the proper one yet but I’m sure it’s steel, not plastic.
Anyways here ya go, hope this helps. I used a 3/16” Allen key and it worked perfect, looking at my mark that was the low side when measuring, I pointed the angled key end down then checking the level.
You need a 5mm Allen socket with a small ratchet and 1.5” extension to get the plug out, it’s not easy, it’s basically at 7:00 to the crank pulley, which of course you can’t see. I had to go by feel, it’s below the crank pulley and a bit to the left, you will need thin arms to access it without removing any parts. We had one with an erratic oil level issue and it was fixed by a software update per a tsb, while searching I got tired of not knowing so I grabbed a car from stock and checked the level, then compared it to the problem car.


Note from moderator:
ALFATECH has asked me to edit this post as he now realises the above information is not accurate. The following quote and pictures are from his newer post that can be found here --> (http://www.giuliaforums.com/forum/985-alfa-romeo-giulia-ti/30985-max-oil-level-exceeded-4.html#post628378)

@Racer Z and @lockem
The oil level check is not like a differential or trans check, the hole is similar what most cars use to insert a dipstick in, its at the top of the oil pan, pointing down but at maybe a 45deg angle. The dipstick we just got to check these is a tight fit in the hole and you need to remove the cover to use it, it is marked in mm increments. I checked it today against the stick I made from a 3/16” Allen key and mine works better imo, for the simple fact that the oil is easier to see on the flanked key rather than the smooth stick.

But, I initially showed everyone here the WRONG measurement, nobody called me out on it though so I hope nobody used my method, since it was way wrong.....not the method, but the measurement I made and referenced.
What you need to do (obviously) is measure from the TOP of the stick to the level mark, NOT the bottom as I instructed you to. This made sense to me today as I looked at my Allen key and realized what I did, hence my post here today...my apologies to all, and could a mod ( @Racer Z ?) maybe delete my post, or reference this one please?

Anyways I took some new pics, this is the correct tool and my tool as well. I marked the top in blue in one pic so you can tell it’s the top, then the green marking indicate the safe zone.
So if you want to make one you should use a mm tape measure, and mark the increments as indicated here.
The top of the stick or head of your Allen key should be 9.6mm from the bottom, and the full level is between 20-30mm from the bottom of the stick as indicated here. Also, remember to read from the low side, not the high.







 

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Sorry the pics aren’t great, but the full level is around 4.6cm or 1.8”, that is the low side of the oil level, not the high side. Not sure if that makes sense, but when you’re checking the level it’s not a straight shot, you’re checking it at an angle, so you should always go by the low.
 
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