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Hello!

Welcome to the John4C forged wheel group buy. As a bit of background, I started this somewhat by accident about 6 months ago over on 4C-forums. The goal was to get a more aggressive teledial style wheel at a reasonable price point. Little did I realize at the time, that the demand for nice, high quality, well designed, custom finished wheels at half the cost of anything remotely comparable is huge.

If you go over on 4C-forums there is a really long thread that kind of details the journey that this project has been. I’ve been through several suppliers, samples, revisions, etc getting to this point but we’re fortunately starting to ship orders in batches.

As part of this process, I have had a few people ask me about wheels for the QV and other Giulia/Stelvios, so I thought I would offer this here as well.

So with the background out of the way…

The Wheels

They are 12k ton press, fully forged 6061-T6 Aluminum (research other wheels, this is the high end of "best practice" IMHO).

Right now there are three Styles offered…

Gabriella



Stefania



Tekla




Fitments

Right now I have set this up as the OEM fitment to start, there is potential to add a few options if there is consensus. I will also be adding a 20” option in the consensus fitment (be it stock or something like +0.5” & +5mm front/rear, etc.)

So what’s being shown in the weight table, etc. is:
19x8.5j ET34
19x10.0j ET41

Note that specific non-QV fitments are very easy to do as well if there is interest.


Weight


These have been engineered to be light but strong. I actually observed that there have been a surprising number of people bending Technicos on here, so I reached out to Fuchs and learned that they make those wheels at a 580kg load rating, which is honestly very low for a car the size of a QV. The wheels in the group buy are 690kg in Giulia fitment, which will be much stronger (it’s not linear). In the same way that I did on the 4C, I really tried to get these are light as possible but strength and safety is the number one factor. Even still, Tekla weighs in only 2lbs heavier (for the set of 4) than the Fuch’s Tecnico despite the higher load rating (see Fuch’s docs below).

Stefania/Tekla Giulia Fitment Weight



Colors

Many colors available. I will post more about this but essentially the wheels are powder coated and can be done in a brushed finish for a surcharge ($124/set). Brushed is personally what I prefer, it’s a really high-end look (HRE for example charges $500/wheel for brushed (per official 2020 HRE price guide).

All wheels can have gloss or satin powdercoat clear. Satin can also be done on brushed wheels for a ‘frozen’ finish.

Lots of OEM type greys, black, bronze, gold options though. Really can be anything you want – that’s the beauty of a fully custom wheel. More to come on the official launch colors though…

Pricing

Here is the pricing with shipping to USA today (the shipping varies and is invoiced at actual cost when your wheels ship, so that is the variable part here).



Shipping
These ship globally and as I mentioned, that is the one element that can change. Some of the international shipping makes these an even better deal though because all shipping (US/Global) is DDP. That means that duty is paid, so there is no additional bill coming to the purchaser when imported.

Some representative quotes (again these will all change) (19” price shown for simplicity)…

Note it varies by location but Sea is typically ~30 days and Air is typically ~12 days. Note that production time is ~30 days.

USA – 380 / 635 (Sea/Air)
Canada - 390 / 760 (Sea/Air)
Australia - 400 / 880 (Sea/Air)
UK - 460 / 845 (Sea/Air)
France - 380 / 665 (Sea/Air)

Again those are all DDP so duty is included
 

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Any actual photos of stefania?
Not yet. There are a few sets in production. Some will be on the ground shortly (on 4Cs). Any pic of someone who mounted Stelvio Wheels on a Giulia should be largely indicative. These should have more concavity though. I always push them to max out what's possible to give the face depth, if we did something like a little bit more flush (e.g. +5mm out) there could be more concavity as well.

Here are the Stefania fitment renders for a QV btw - for simplicity those style images are from the 4C (these are the stock fitment btw)

Stefania QV

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Not yet. There are a few sets in production. Some will be on the ground shortly (on 4Cs). Any pic of someone who mounted Stelvio Wheels on a Giulia should be largely indicative. These should have more concavity though. I always push them to max out what's possible to give the face depth, if we did something like a little bit more flush (e.g. +5mm out) there could be more concavity as well.

Here are the Stefania fitment renders for a QV btw - for simplicity those style images are from the 4C (these are the stock fitment btw)

Stefania QV

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Definitely be interested, specially with more concave offset, but I don't want them to stick out too much. I'd like to see colors too., If possible all option. I'm thinking brush would suit my red car with with red calipers..
 

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Are these Giulia QV (and 4C) sizes only, or are the 4 cylinder sizes being made?
Also, what about square setups for a Q4?
 

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Definitely be interested, specially with more concave offset, but I don't want them to stick out too much. I'd like to see colors too., If possible all option. I'm thinking brush would suit my red car with with red calipers..
I’ll post more on the colors shortly. I have some mock ups in the 4C-forum thread but we’re so close to having actual wheels in most of the colors that I’d rather not do the whole mock up thing again.

Also, they’re doing center caps for me in all the colors next week so that will be helpful as well.

It seems like the common spacer is 6-7mm front and 5mm rear. Certainly the offsets could be adjusted for that. I know some people have gone more agrees since than that as well. It’s pretty open what’s possible so there can be several fitment options.
 

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I will keep you all updated when mine show up. For what it’s worth, John has been nothing but a gentleman this entire time.
I went with a brushed champagne gloss Telka style wheel
Thank you and likewise. I’m really excited for you to get yours. I sent the update today but I’m hoping we’ll have a more exciting update in ~7-10 days (for those that don’t know this week is a national holiday in China so the factory is closed right now).
 

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Are these Giulia QV (and 4C) sizes only, or are the 4 cylinder sizes being made?
Also, what about square setups for a Q4?
Absolutely there can be 2.0L fitments, square, staggered, whatever people want.

It’s a fully integrated factory that makes 2 million wheels a year. They forge the blanks and CNC them all under one roof. It’s very much an anything is possible situation. They’re TUV certified, make wheels for other brands that carry fitment specific TUV certs (though I am not pursuing TUV for these specifically for cost/practicality reasons). All the wheels are engineered to JWL standards, undergo load, fatigue, impact testing, etc. Part of what took me so long to start shipping the 4C wheels was finding the right manufacturing partner. So yes, they’ll do whatever people want (though ideally in a handful of fitments rather than all one-off custom fitments).

I’m still somewhat in the early days of this and the early emphasis was 4C wheels. I’m working through 4C heavy orders right now but expect some production bandwidth starting in a month or so (they’ve allocated me a certain number per month essentially), so I wanted to start seeing if there was interest in these and what fitments make sense for the Giulia/Stelvio.

Long answer, but I definitely want to do 2.0L (Q2/Q4) fitments.
 

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We’re back! Thank you to the mods for taking a closer look at this. 🙏🏻

We’re in the classified forum, which makes sense but you need 50 posts to post here (I had to get mine up a bit, lol). So anyone who can’t post here can feel free to PM me with any questions.
 

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Definitely interested in a Tekla or Stefania style for my Q4, in either 18" or 19". I don't think I would want to go as wide as 10" in the back, though.
For sure. I started with the QV sizes because I had some people asking for them..

After looking into what people typically do on the 2.0s last night, I was thinking we’d probably end up with:

1) A staggered fitment, probably 8” front / 9” rear
2) A square fitment of 8.5” all around.

Definitely open to feedback as well but it seems like that’s the consensus on the 2.0 cars (again based on a quick scan so I could be off).
 

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For sure. I started with the QV sizes because I had some people asking for them..

After looking into what people typically do on the 2.0s last night, I was thinking we’d probably end up with:

1) A staggered fitment, probably 8” front / 9” rear
2) A square fitment of 8.5” all around.

Definitely open to feedback as well but it seems like that’s the consensus on the 2.0 cars (again based on a quick scan so I could be off).
Square setups:
18x9 for 255/40/18
18x10, with some front camber work, is also a good option. 275/40/18
 
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