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OK sorry to start another thread on this but I'm curious if this is what others are experiencing.

So yesterday I parked my ti q2 at work around 9AM. I got back in her at 7PM, started her up and I got an auto start stop not working warning. Then I got a service engine warning and she put herself in natural mode. D was selected in the DNA. The start stop warning light stayed on. I drove it home (about a 45 min drive) in natural the whole time. No matter what I selected it stayed in natural. It drives fine in natural even, accelerates normally. It currently still will not change modes. I can't contact the dealer until Monday. My question is does this sound like what others are experiencing? It sounds like if the car goes into limp mode it's slow. I'm not having that problem, it just won't change out of natural.

She has about 2100 miles on her. I guess I need to change my answer on the poll.
 

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You have not described limp (engine) mode. In limp mode the engine will not rev past 2000RPM or so and won't produce hardly any power. This is done because the computer has decided that it cannot trust the sensor readings and so it is restricting engine operation to a "safe" range that is unlikely to damage anything. You certainly have not described a failure (engine suddenly stops running, won't start, persistent limp mode, etc).

I suspect that there is a phantom error code in the ECU that your service center can clear to restore normal operation. A prompt visit to your service center is called for in any case.

Did you leave any lights on (possibly not visible during the day)? That would drain the battery and possibly cause the symptom that you are having.
My wife is constantly hitting the "on" switch on the overhead interior light of her Subaru then walking away without noticing it. It isn't noticeable in daylight.
 

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According to the owners manual, interior lights will shut off after 15 minutes if left on accidentally.

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Before getting out of the vehicle,
ensure that the overhead lights are off.
This will prevent the battery level from
being drained once the doors are
closed. If a light is left on accidently, the
overhead lights turn off automatically
approximately 15 minutes after the
engine has been turned OFF.
 

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You have not described limp (engine) mode. In limp mode the engine will not rev past 2000RPM or so and won't produce hardly any power. This is done because the computer has decided that it cannot trust the sensor readings and so it is restricting engine operation to a "safe" range that is unlikely to damage anything. You certainly have not described a failure (engine suddenly stops running, won't start, persistent limp mode, etc).

I suspect that there is a phantom error code in the ECU that your service center can clear to restore normal operation. A prompt visit to your service center is called for in any case.

Did you leave any lights on (possibly not visible during the day)? That would drain the battery and possibly cause the symptom that you are having.
My wife is constantly hitting the "on" switch on the overhead interior light of her Subaru then walking away without noticing it. It isn't noticeable in daylight.
Thanks for the info. I don't think I left anything on but now I'm wondering if I didn't close the door properly. I hope that's what it is
 

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Thanks for the info. I don't think I left anything on but now I'm wondering if I didn't close the door properly. I hope that's what it is
Very easy on my car to leave the driver's door not quite fully latched.
 

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According to the owners manual, interior lights will shut off after 15 minutes if left on accidentally.

Note:
Before getting out of the vehicle,
ensure that the overhead lights are off.
This will prevent the battery level from
being drained once the doors are
closed. If a light is left on accidently, the
overhead lights turn off automatically
approximately 15 minutes after the
engine has been turned OFF.
Hmmm, most cars have 3 position switches for the interior lights: off, on and automatic. In the old days "automatic" was tied to the door open switches making it quick and easy the determine the switch position, but now it is tied to a timer in the ECU. "On" is useful if you want to sit in the car and read or if you are working around the car at night. Does Giulia lack the "on" position?
 

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OK sorry to start another thread on this but I'm curious if this is what others are experiencing.

So yesterday I parked my ti q2 at work around 9AM. I got back in her at 7PM, started her up and I got an auto start stop not working warning. Then I got a service engine warning and she put herself in natural mode. D was selected in the DNA. The start stop warning light stayed on. I drove it home (about a 45 min drive) in natural the whole time. No matter what I selected it stayed in natural. It drives fine in natural even, accelerates normally. It currently still will not change modes. I can't contact the dealer until Monday. My question is does this sound like what others are experiencing? It sounds like if the car goes into limp mode it's slow. I'm not having that problem, it just won't change out of natural.

She has about 2100 miles on her. I guess I need to change my answer on the poll.
have you had all the updated service flashes done? restricting the drive modes is limp mode, I would get it checked. the last thing you want is a complete shut down wile driving in traffic which is what happened to me
 

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have you had all the updated service flashes done? restricting the drive modes is limp mode, I would get it checked. the last thing you want is a complete shut down wile driving in traffic which is what happened to me
That just happened. Now I know what limp mode is. Luckily I was still close to my house. The car stalled and I got a throttle failure error. Then it limped home. I Still can't call the dealer until Monday.

Do you recommend calling Alfa or just going to the dealer?

Can not having the update cause this?
 

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Protocol begs that you begin with the Dealer.
 

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That just happened. Now I know what limp mode is. Luckily I was still close to my house. The car stalled and I got a throttle failure error. Then it limped home. I Still can't call the dealer until Monday.

Do you recommend calling Alfa or just going to the dealer?

Can not having the update cause this?
Have you had the flash updates installed yet? You will need to bring it to a dealer first to see if they can identify the cause by looking at error codes. If they cannot tell you exactly what caused your problem you should then reach out to Alfa premium care.
 

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I thought I would give an update on my experience so far.

I called the dealer this morning. I was told that the person I need to talk to would call me back. After an hour and 30 minutes with no call, I called back. The girl who answered the phone said that she couldn't find the person I needed to talk to. She recommended that I get it towed in and then contact the service department. When I explained to her that I wasn't going to pay for towing , she transferred me to Chrysler customer care. They asked me a few questions and got me to an Alfa Romeo specialist. I have to say that it was a very pleasant from there. The Alfa specialist got me set up with a tow and made sure they had a loner car waiting for me. She called me back several times to make sure I was being taken care of. When we arrived at
the the dealer they were nice as could be. The service manager asked me a few questions, and told me that she has to communicate with Alfa on every thing they do to the car. She also said that mine was only the second one they had in the shop so far. She gave me the key to a white Giulia base and I was on my way.

I'll update the thread when I find out what's wrong with it.
 

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I thought I would give an update on my experience so far.

I called the dealer this morning. I was told that the person I need to talk to would call me back. After an hour and 30 minutes with no call, I called back. The girl who answered the phone said that she couldn't find the person I needed to talk to. She recommended that I get it towed in and then contact the service department. When I explained to her that I wasn't going to pay for towing , she transferred me to Chrysler customer care. They asked me a few questions and got me to an Alfa Romeo specialist. I have to say that it was a very pleasant from there. The Alfa specialist got me set up with a tow and made sure they had a loner car waiting for me. She called me back several times to make sure I was being taken care of. When we arrived at
the the dealer they were nice as could be. The service manager asked me a few questions, and told me that she has to communicate with Alfa on every thing they do to the car. She also said that mine was only the second one they had in the shop so far. She gave me the key to a white Giulia base and I was on my way.

I'll update the thread when I find out what's wrong with it.
Curious how (or if) the problem was resolved?
 

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OK sorry to start another thread on this but I'm curious if this is what others are experiencing.

So yesterday I parked my ti q2 at work around 9AM. I got back in her at 7PM, started her up and I got an auto start stop not working warning. Then I got a service engine warning and she put herself in natural mode. D was selected in the DNA. The start stop warning light stayed on. I drove it home (about a 45 min drive) in natural the whole time. No matter what I selected it stayed in natural. It drives fine in natural even, accelerates normally. It currently still will not change modes. I can't contact the dealer until Monday. My question is does this sound like what others are experiencing? It sounds like if the car goes into limp mode it's slow. I'm not having that problem, it just won't change out of natural.

She has about 2100 miles on her. I guess I need to change my answer on the poll.
This happened to me today. Dropped it off at the dealer and they can't work on it until Monday.

In an ironic (and hilarious) twist, they gave me a Range Rover sport as a loaner with only 2k miles on it. On the way back from the dealer, it started throwing an emissions related error on the dash. Went away after a restart though.
 
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