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We live in the Bay Area (North CA) and visited several dealers. Needless to say they want between $10K to $20K markup over MSRP price, which we are not willing to pay, but they have no clue (our interpretation) on how to order the vehicle. One said it will take years to deliver the Giulia Q, which just doesn't make sense, another could not tell even approximate schedule.
We found the vehicle in So CA (LA) which almost fits our requirements and they asked MSRP, but after reading a number of posts related to glitches (spent weekend :smile2:) we are leaning toward ordering 2018 model.
1. Should I anticipate any issues servicing the vehicle at the local dealership, and do we need to mention/negotiate this upfront? (if we were to purchase 2017 vehicle in stock from a dealer 450ml away)
2. Should we chose to order the vehicle, can anyone recommend a reliable dealership on the West Coast (preferably CA)?

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We live in the Bay Area (North CA) and visited several dealers. Needless to say they want between $10K to $20K markup over MSRP price, which we are not willing to pay, but they have no clue (our interpretation) on how to order the vehicle. One said it will take years to deliver the Giulia Q, which just doesn't make sense, another could not tell even approximate schedule.
We found the vehicle in So CA (LA) which almost fits our requirements and they asked MSRP, but after reading a number of posts related to glitches (spent weekend :smile2:) we are leaning toward ordering 2018 model.
1. Should I anticipate any issues servicing the vehicle at the local dealership, and do we need to mention/negotiate this upfront? (if we were to purchase 2017 vehicle in stock from a dealer 450ml away)
2. Should we chose to order the vehicle, can anyone recommend a reliable dealership on the West Coast (preferably CA)?

Thanks in advance
You can service your vehicle at any alfa dealership you want...dont let those local thugs get away with it...when you do bring it in for service, walk into the showroom and tell them that they lost a sale because they were arrogant. There are several threads that discuss dealers in your area...remember, its not all that expensive to ship a car - particularly for dealers - expand your search area.....
 

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There is plenty of inventory of 2017's available in the US. I know 2 dealers in the Midwest that will take thousands below MSRP for their vehicles in stock. Do some shopping and expand your search. I also understand that you can also order a 2018's at MSRP or a little below as well. Don't fall for the strong arm tactics of a few dealers in Cali..... They will be sitting on those cars for a long time.
 

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Just shop around and don't be pressured into paying ridiculous amounts of $$. I have a 2017 Giulia Q I picked up in April, it has now almost 5 K miles on it and has been trouble-free. The 2018's will have some audio enhancements, but other than that I haven't heard any other changes. I paid about 2 K over list for mine, but I would have laughed at 10-20 K over. The car is well worth owning and you will be glad you got it, but lets not be pressured into doing anything ridiculous .....
 

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I can't agree more regarding our local dealers, unfortunately we will need to use them for the service :-(
They are under the impression that anyone looking for Giulia Q is from either FB, Google or Apple...
We've looked at several threads, but could not find specifics re recommended dealers. Kindly appreciate any links on the subject.
Is the order done by phone or electronically? We definitely prefer e-mail exchange and not phone conversations.
I do not remember last time I was in a dealership without finalized deal. Usually we use carsdirect.com, truecars.com or other, unfortunately we could not find this beauty on any of these sites.

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Just shop around and don't be pressured into paying ridiculous amounts of $$. I have a 2017 Giulia Q I picked up in April, it has now almost 5 K miles on it and has been trouble-free. The 2018's will have some audio enhancements, but other than that I haven't heard any other changes. I paid about 2 K over list for mine, but I would have laughed at 10-20 K over. The car is well worth owning and you will be glad you got it, but lets not be pressured into doing anything ridiculous .....
Hi Bob,
The reason for ordering was to ensure we get the configuration we want, and most of the updates done by factory itself (I read the thread about software updates hustle). And my wife wants CarPlay (the reason for 2018)

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I agree with everyone's comments. I bought my QV from a dealer halfway across the country. Check out the main Alfa website for vehicles in transit. This will give you a heads up on what cars are going where. If you are set on a 2018, you can order it through one of your pedantic local dealers, or just wait till one shows up somewhere with the spec you're looking for. 2018s should start showing up soon. I would only order a car if your looking for a very unusual spec or are unwilling to compromise at all.
 

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Seriously, order from an out of state dealer at or below MSRP and have it shipped to you when it arrives. My 2018 QV is on order from the Tacoma dealership, I'm paying MSRP when it gets here. Shoot, I think @BostonDMD even got like $4k off of MSRP on his order on the east coast. Order from his dealer, ship it across the country for $2k, and you'll still come out under MSRP.
 

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We live in the Bay Area (North CA) and visited several dealers. Needless to say they want between $10K to $20K markup over MSRP price, which we are not willing to pay, but they have no clue (our interpretation) on how to order the vehicle.his upfront?
I live in the Bay Area and also found incompetence and/or arrogance at several dealers. However, the San Francisco dealer told me it would be no problem to do a custom order for a Qdrfgl. And I got MSRP, with no additional premium tacked on.
 
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And I see no 2018s except Stelvios. I don't expect to pay any more than a few grand markup, if that. I already indicated to my salesman that I can bailout and go to Miller or Herb Chambers and put another deposit down for MSRP and still pay less than that kind of markup. Just like ordering out of state and shipping. My salesman has already earned some mark up, but nothing in the order of 5-10 grand. Now there is some market for convenience, and cost of living, and the geographic thing. That even effects your labor rates at service. Here outside of Boston on the AutoMile, you will see some market increase. Just look at gas prices is swanky Dover outside of 128/I95. Premium gas is still almost $4 a gallon! But back to Quads, I have some other ideas to negotiate off of the mark up. It may or may not fly but if the squeeze me, I walk. Things should be OK. I just spoke to my broker today and took some pressure off. Also, I saw 3 Quads in the Boston Area. 2 at Herb Chamber, 1 at Kelly. Not to my liking with boring interiors. If fact, the Vulcano Black one may be the same one that's been there since the winter! I sat it one and salesman started it up for me. It looks exactly the same. Maybe not, that one had red stitching but did sit a while.
 

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Is it possible to check the built date per VIN number?

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On US-spec cars, you can check the build date on the door jamb sticker. There will be a month/year mfr. date, plus a MDH code, which stands for Month-Date-Hour. Euro-spec Giulias don't have either. On the cars I've seen, the date in the MDH code is 1 day earlier than the completion date registered in FCA's database, so that label is probably printed and affixed to the car somewhere along the assembly line rather than at the end. If you just have the VIN, send me a PM and I can check the date for you.
 

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Thanks for the tip.
I could not find this info on the site. I used www.alfaromeousa.com/‎
Would you mind sharing the link?

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Go to "Build & Price" and configure the car you want. When done click on "Search new inventory" and it will show exact and partial matches within certain miles of your zip code. The max range for searching is 200 miles from the zip code, so you may have to try different zip codes to search distant dealers. It is a little time consuming, but that is how I found mine 1,500 miles away. Good luck!
 

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After dealing with the Bay Area Dealers myself I have decided to follow the lead of another forum member and try Cartelligent to locate a 2017 Q or order a 2018.
 

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