How many Quads for the US?

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johnzcarz

Discussion Starter · Mar 9, 2017

Does anyone know how many Quads are allotted for the US market? Do dealers have to sell a certain amount of Giulias before they can even get a Quad?

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AlfaOhio

· #241 · Jan 9, 2021

milanojess said:
i'd be curious if any left over 2020 QVs up for grab with bigger discounts since it's 2021 now?

There are a few 2020s out there (we have one) generally the market seems to be holding pretty firm based on the lack of inventory, but as always there are discounts to be had. We charge EP price with free shipping nationwide, our site has the details.

@Giuliano no word about the QV sales so currently all I have is what we did last year. I can tell you that there seems to be around 90 on the ground or in transit (Giulia and Stelvio models).

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hodlerhalper

· #242 · Jul 19, 2021 (Edited)

I saw this from a recent thread and thought it would be useful: sale figures
This seems like the 5% allocation is within the ballpark range. MY2022 seems to be dropping allocations down (I think I heard as low as 2%?)

Giuliano

· #243 · Jul 19, 2021

The 5% QV allocation comes from the 2022 Summary and Order Mix Recommendations shared in the 2022 Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio Sales Presentation. We do not know what was that split within 2017 and 2021 but, as you said, 5% may be a good ball park estimated.

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hodlerhalper

· #244 · Jul 19, 2021

Giuliano said:
The 5% QV allocation comes from the 2022 Summary and Order Mix Recommendations shared in the 2022 Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio Sales Presentation. We do not know what was that split within 2017 and 2021 but, as you said, 5% may be a good ball park estimated.

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Ahh I see. Is this global or just US markets?

Giuliano

· #245 · Jul 19, 2021

hodlerhalper said:
Ahh I see. Is this global or just US markets?

Not 100% sure but, I think it is North America only, based on the title of the presentation.

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andrei_88

· #246 · Feb 24, 2022

so... would it be fair to speculate that (based on the table above, provided by @Giuliano)
in 2014: 67 total Alfas sold-> about 30% probably QVs (im assuming that based on the fact that "new" to US market, probably many old Alfa enthusiasts and "car collectors" jumped on the opportunity to own a special model, hence the priority to get the QV) = should be about 20ish 2014 Quads, Giulias/Stelvios...
2015: 663 total Alfas sold-> probably around 10%ish were Quads(Giulia/Stelvio) = 60 Quads
2016: 528 total Alfas sold (still pretty small volume being sold would make me think that people who knew about Alfa got them- hence I assume a little higher % than 5 got the special model) ->10% Quads = 50 total Quads.
2017: 12031 total Alfas sold - 5% Quads = 600ish
2018: 23800 total Alfas sold-> 5% =1300ish
2019: 18294 - 5% =900ish
2020: 18586 - 5% =900ish

Again- this is me pulling some (pretty much random) numbers based on the 5% being Quadrifoglios, and this is combined Giulias and Stelvios and tweaking and rounding the numbers to my weird and baseless (probably wrong) logic...

Does it make sense/ does this looks like it could be in the ball park or am i off by thousands? If the 5% is about right - we should only have around 3500-4000 quads combined Giulias and Stelvios here in US (73969 total sold, 5%=3700 Quads)... Given they are pretty closely divided, I would assume we got about 2000 Giulias and about the same number of Stelvios sold in US since 2014.

Now I'm gonna sit back and blush at every comment that gonna point out every dumb mistake I made in my assumptions- might look up my nearest elementary school principal contact in case i need to head back for some math refreshin'...
Let me know what you think.

PS- spelling doesn't count

lol

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andrei_88

· #247 · Feb 24, 2022

"The company* — part of Volkswagen Group — sold 1,595 total cars in the U.S " in 2018.
*Lamborghini

Does that mean a 2018 Quadrifoglio badge is rarer that a Lambo? It seem that way...
I know, its a long shot- counting every car imported by a brand vs a special trim level in an already small(er) car maker, but still...

Giuliano

· #248 · Feb 24, 2022

andrei_88 said:
so... would it be fair to speculate that (based on the table above, provided by @Giuliano)
in 2014: 67 total Alfas sold-> about 30% probably QVs (im assuming that based on the fact that "new" to US market, probably many old Alfa enthusiasts and "car collectors" jumped on the opportunity to own a special model, hence the priority to get the QV) = should be about 20ish 2014 Quads, Giulias/Stelvios...
2015: 663 total Alfas sold-> probably around 10%ish were Quads(Giulia/Stelvio) = 60 Quads
2016: 528 total Alfas sold (still pretty small volume being sold would make me think that people who knew about Alfa got them- hence I assume a little higher % than 5 got the special model) ->10% Quads = 50 total Quads.
2017: 12031 total Alfas sold - 5% Quads = 600ish
2018: 23800 total Alfas sold-> 5% =1300ish
2019: 18294 - 5% =900ish
2020: 18586 - 5% =900ish

Again- this is me pulling some (pretty much random) numbers based on the 5% being Quadrifoglios, and this is combined Giulias and Stelvios and tweaking and rounding the numbers to my weird and baseless (probably wrong) logic...

Does it make sense/ does this looks like it could be in the ball park or am i off by thousands? If the 5% is about right - we should only have around 3500-4000 quads combined Giulias and Stelvios here in US (73969 total sold, 5%=3700 Quads)... Given they are pretty closely divided, I would assume we got about 2000 Giulias and about the same number of Stelvios sold in US since 2014.

Now I'm gonna sit back and blush at every comment that gonna point out every dumb mistake I made in my assumptions- might look up my nearest elementary school principal contact in case i need to head back for some math refreshin'...
Let me know what you think.

PS- spelling doesn't count lol

Check the Thread I initiated 3 months ago or so titled: "...Update in Post#51: Amount of Giulia Quadrifoglio sold in the US (Jan-2017 to Oct-2021)...". My last update on that subject is copy-pasted here below. The 5% of QVs was an unofficial estimated. It is actually and factually less than 3%. There were about 2,411 QV sold between the end of 2016 and October 2021.

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Giuliano

· #249 · Feb 24, 2022

andrei_88 said:
"The company* — part of Volkswagen Group — sold 1,595 total cars in the U.S " in 2018.
*Lamborghini

Does that mean a 2018 Quadrifoglio badge is rarer that a Lambo? It seem that way...
I know, its a long shot- counting every car imported by a brand vs a special trim level in an already small(er) car maker, but still...

Yes it does. 934 Giulia Quadrifoglio were sold in the US in 2018. Do not know how many Stelvio Quadrifoglio.

andrei_88

· #250 · Feb 24, 2022

Giuliano said:
Check the Thread I initiated 3 months ago or so titled: "...Update in Post#51: Amount of Giulia Quadrifoglio sold in the US (Jan-2017 to Oct-2021)...". My last update on that subject is copy-pasted here below. The 5% of QVs was an unofficial estimated. It is actually and factually less than 3%. There were about 2,411 QV sold between the end of 2016 and October 2021.

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Thank you! I promise I read all 13 pages, but it was about 2 months ago and didnt pay too much attention- Its my fault and thank you for sharing that again... Its greatly appreciated and I will try to pay more attention in the future... Pinky Promise!

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Avnyc11

· #251 · Feb 25, 2022

andrei_88 said:
so... would it be fair to speculate that (based on the table above, provided by @Giuliano)
in 2014: 67 total Alfas sold-> about 30% probably QVs (im assuming that based on the fact that "new" to US market, probably many old Alfa enthusiasts and "car collectors" jumped on the opportunity to own a special model, hence the priority to get the QV) = should be about 20ish 2014 Quads, Giulias/Stelvios...
2015: 663 total Alfas sold-> probably around 10%ish were Quads(Giulia/Stelvio) = 60 Quads
2016: 528 total Alfas sold (still pretty small volume being sold would make me think that people who knew about Alfa got them- hence I assume a little higher % than 5 got the special model) ->10% Quads = 50 total Quads.
2017: 12031 total Alfas sold - 5% Quads = 600ish
2018: 23800 total Alfas sold-> 5% =1300ish
2019: 18294 - 5% =900ish
2020: 18586 - 5% =900ish

Again- this is me pulling some (pretty much random) numbers based on the 5% being Quadrifoglios, and this is combined Giulias and Stelvios and tweaking and rounding the numbers to my weird and baseless (probably wrong) logic...

Does it make sense/ does this looks like it could be in the ball park or am i off by thousands? If the 5% is about right - we should only have around 3500-4000 quads combined Giulias and Stelvios here in US (73969 total sold, 5%=3700 Quads)... Given they are pretty closely divided, I would assume we got about 2000 Giulias and about the same number of Stelvios sold in US since 2014.

Now I'm gonna sit back and blush at every comment that gonna point out every dumb mistake I made in my assumptions- might look up my nearest elementary school principal contact in case i need to head back for some math refreshin'...
Let me know what you think.

PS- spelling doesn't count lol

I thought the first giulias didn't land until end of 2016

keithmcgreggor

· #252 · Feb 25, 2022

2,411 QVs sold. What percentages do you think are in the various colors, options, etc.?

Giuliano

· #253 · Feb 25, 2022

keithmcgreggor said:
2,411 QVs sold. What percentages do you think are in the various colors, options, etc.?

This 2,411 is in the US only and from January 2017 to October 2021. I do not have any data about colors, options, etc.

Anthonypeck

· #254 · 2 mo ago

MacGeek said:
I say they're a bit too low because I know the production numbers. Even excluding prototypes/preproduction/validation units, the number you were quoted doesn't quite add up: it's missing about the first couple of weeks of ramped up production. The table posted by another user a couple of pages back is a lot closer to the production numbers.

Also, "2.0 dime a dozen cars"? Please spare the snobism. They made less than 10k 2017 2.0L US-spec Giulias. That's hardly "dime a dozen" in a market as large as the US.

I own a new Quad and take issue with talking down the 2 liter cars. They are great and I’m looking at buying a Stelvio with a 2.0

MinnQV

· #255 · 1 mo ago

Overall, pretty low numbers. No wonder you rarely see another Quad on the road.

BM2Alfa

· #256 · 16 d ago

MinnQV said:
Overall, pretty low numbers. No wonder you rarely see another Quad on the road.

Since I've seen a lot more WRX on the road, I've honestly seen only 1 QV on the road in the 5 years that I've known they existed. So actual QV based on this I can say there are probably less than 5,000 sold each year.

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wingler

· #257 · 16 d ago

BM2Alfa said:
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Since I've seen a lot more WRX on the road, I've honestly seen only 1 QV on the road in the 5 years that I've known they existed. So actual QV based on this I can say there are probably less than 5,000 sold each year.

No where close to 5k QVs sold per year in the US. See post #248.

Anthonypeck

· #258 · 16 d ago

BM2Alfa said:
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Since I've seen a lot more WRX on the road, I've honestly seen only 1 QV on the road in the 5 years that I've known they existed. So actual QV based on this I can say there are probably less than 5,000 sold each year.

wingler said:
No where close to 5k QVs sold per year in the US.

I have seen more F8 than fellow QV. I was happy getting the second gen and now we are to a third gen. Keep hoping the 1k HP EV Giulia coming 2025 will get more market share. I want to see Alfa stay in the US

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Alfa Philly

· #259 · 16 d ago

There may not even be 5k total in US from all years sales

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Giuliano

· #260 · 15 d ago

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