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My 2018 TI has been great for the first two weeks I've had it. But this morning it let me down. I was stopped at a traffic light about a half mile from my house. When the light turned green the car didn't seem to have its normal power. Within a couple of seconds i was looking at a bunch of warnings: Service ABS, AST Failure, Electric Park Brake Failure, ESC Light and the "BRAKE" red light. I was able to limp it home with brakes pulling right, little brake assist, and feeling like brakes were dragging. Could all this be battery-related? I'll be getting car towed to dealer on Monday.
 

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@johnalfa,

Please post the details of your interaction with the dealership, as well as what the problem was, and the fix.
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Awe crap. Have you driven it regularly? And a 2018 battery shouldn't be an issue if it sat. Who knows? If you have a trickle charger,try it. Disconnect and reconnect battery too if possible.

Oh wait, was it on auto stop start? Any chance you pressed the gas with a foot on the brake still? That can crash the ecu.
 

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My 2018 TI has been great for the first two weeks I've had it. But this morning it let me down. I was stopped at a traffic light about a half mile from my house. When the light turned green the car didn't seem to have its normal power. Within a couple of seconds i was looking at a bunch of warnings: Service ABS, AST Failure, Electric Park Brake Failure, ESC Light and the "BRAKE" red light. I was able to limp it home with brakes pulling right, little brake assist, and feeling like brakes were dragging. Could all this be battery-related? I'll be getting car towed to dealer on Monday.
Keep us posted please. I'm glad you already talked with your dealer and are towing it in. If you don't already know, your new car warranty includes free towing to the dealer to fix warranty issues, and, you're in entitled to a free loaner car during the warranty repair.
 

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Jeez, that sucks. Hope it's an easy (and quick) fix
 

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Car is 10/17 production. I've driven it almost every day since I got it- only 1 longer trip (40+miles yesterday. I always turn auto stop off as soon as I start it. My only interaction with dealer was phone conversation with service mgr . Told me to tow in Monday, they'll "look at" it Tuesday. Will try the battery tricks in the meantime.
 

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Car is 10/17 production. I've driven it almost every day since I got it- only 1 longer trip (40+miles yesterday. I always turn auto stop off as soon as I start it. My only interaction with dealer was phone conversation with service mgr . Told me to tow in Monday, they'll "look at" it Tuesday. Will try the battery tricks in the meantime.
Unfortunately this is a weird holiday week with the 4th falling on a Wed.
Messes up work schedules for certain....
is it safe to say that you have had all the RRTs/TSBs done?....it has been shown here that many of the issues reported have been addressed by those software flashes...
let us know how it turns out and how your dealer treated you.
are you servicing where you purchased?
 

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Car is 10/17 production. I've driven it almost every day since I got it- only 1 longer trip (40+miles yesterday. I always turn auto stop off as soon as I start it. My only interaction with dealer was phone conversation with service mgr . Told me to tow in Monday, they'll "look at" it Tuesday. Will try the battery tricks in the meantime.
You should call the national Alfa Cares number in lieu of the dealership. A response to your situation should be more robust than “We’ll get to it on Tuesday.”
 

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robust response from alfacares?
the nice people there can do nothing except tell the dealer you contacted them, and maybe ask the dealer to be pleasant.
 

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Problem solved. Last night I hooked up my 30 year old Craftsman 2amp battery charger to the connections under the hood. This afternoon I disconnected the charger, started the car and went for a drive. Giulia again performed flawlessly. So I guess with all this new technology you still have to have an old-school backup. Will still go to dealer to have battery checked.
 

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^^ yeay!
Battery was causing all kinds of funky stuff in my Audi S6 two cars back, fuel gauge would go crazy, internal light would come on and you couldnt switch it off, windows would open, it was hillarious....all car needed was new battery and suddenly all was good
 

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great news! Bought a battery charger this weekend after reading all the " did you check the battery" related failure posts. lol.
 

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How is a battery in a 2018 failing so soon? That doesn't make any **** sense....I've had cars for years before a battery needed to be changed
 

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Car was built in October 2017 so it's been sitting around for quite a while. I doubt that dealers do any intermittent charging of vehicles on their lot. I got the car two weeks ago and had only been doing short trips. Also, Alfa apparently had some subpar batteries installed at the factory. From other posts on this forum those batteries had an Alfa logo on them while the "better" batteries are branded Mopar. I have the Alfa battery. Another factor may have been the 90+ temp here Saturday, since it's widely believed that heat kills more batteries than cold. Anyway it goes to dealer tomorrow.
 

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My 2018 TI has been great for the first two weeks I've had it. But this morning it let me down. I was stopped at a traffic light about a half mile from my house. When the light turned green the car didn't seem to have its normal power. Within a couple of seconds i was looking at a bunch of warnings: Service ABS, AST Failure, Electric Park Brake Failure, ESC Light and the "BRAKE" red light. I was able to limp it home with brakes pulling right, little brake assist, and feeling like brakes were dragging. Could all this be battery-related? I'll be getting car towed to dealer on Monday.
Hi johnalfa,

This is not the experience we like to hear from our Giulia owners. Please let us know if you are in need of assistance while your Giulia in at the dealer. If you send us a PM with your VIN and mileage, we are happy to help.

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Problem solved. Last night I hooked up my 30 year old Craftsman 2amp battery charger to the connections under the hood. This afternoon I disconnected the charger, started the car and went for a drive. Giulia again performed flawlessly. So I guess with all this new technology you still have to have an old-school backup. Will still go to dealer to have battery checked.
Car was built in October 2017 so it's been sitting around for quite a while. I doubt that dealers do any intermittent charging of vehicles on their lot. I got the car two weeks ago and had only been doing short trips. Also, Alfa apparently had some subpar batteries installed at the factory. From other posts on this forum those batteries had an Alfa logo on them while the "better" batteries are branded Mopar. I have the Alfa battery. Another factor may have been the 90+ temp here Saturday, since it's widely believed that heat kills more batteries than cold. Anyway it goes to dealer tomorrow.
Low system voltage can cause all sorts of false problems on ALL modern cars, not just Alfas. The computers do not like a low voltage situation. Let us know what happens at the dealer please.
 
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1. If the car has been on the lot for awhile, wouldn't the battery issues become apparent when the customer first starts the car? Instead of weeks/months later?
2. What is draining the battery?
3. Shouldn't the alternator be charging it?


Sounds to me like there might be a 'leak' (car using more power than the alternator can make up for) somewhere.
 

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Car was built in October 2017 so it's been sitting around for quite a while. I doubt that dealers do any intermittent charging of vehicles on their lot. I got the car two weeks ago and had only been doing short trips. Also, Alfa apparently had some subpar batteries installed at the factory. From other posts on this forum those batteries had an Alfa logo on them while the "better" batteries are branded Mopar. I have the Alfa battery. Another factor may have been the 90+ temp here Saturday, since it's widely believed that heat kills more batteries than cold. Anyway it goes to dealer tomorrow.
1. If the car has been on the lot for awhile, wouldn't the battery issues become apparent when the customer first starts the car? Instead of weeks/months later?
2. What is draining the battery?
3. Shouldn't the alternator be charging it?


Sounds to me like there might be a 'leak' (car using more power than the alternator can make up for) somewhere.
His Alfa Romeo battery is from a known batch of bad batteries. Ours failed after 10 months and 12,000 miles. Dealer replaced with a MOPAR battery.

Regardless of anything else, batteries sometimes just fail, for no apparent reason. Just like light bulbs can last forever or fail in just a few hours.
 

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Yep I read all the stuff on the bad batteries and had a pre-approved battery replacement authorized by Alfa Cares BEFORE I went to the dealership. Since my QV was on the lot for a long time and in AZ batteries do not last period. We had to replace our Infinity battery every two years.

My problem with remote start was a circuit TB issued and fixed. Auto stop / start not working because it had full Auto Climate Control on. Unfortunately I was hoping it was the battery and the battery was fine.
 

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Has anyone considered a preemptive move of replacing the OEM battery upon purchase with a known performance battery like Optima or XS or something else aftermarket? Agree, this should NOT need to be done, but I just wonder if this wouldn't be a prudent move considering all of the bad battery reports we see just on this forum alone.
 
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