My opinion specifically since it’s your decision but qv salavaged with limited budget doesnt seem like a good financial decision. Parts on qv are very very expensive.
Before I purchased my qv, i was looking at a qv with a clean title but with prev demage repair history for 65k canadian. Seem to be a good deal since non accident used qv were going for over 80k. Drove the car and looked very good interior and exterior along with mechanical components. However, when i pulled the carfax, the car had repair bill of $90000 canadian. This was a front end damaged car. Not sure why insurance company did not total the car but decided to repair it when it costed as much as buying a almost new car.
The point is, it costs a lot to purchase the parts on qv that can quickly snowball..
Canadian not usd. In canada giulia qv costs about 100k give or take. So the repair bill was almost the price of a new car. I looked at it and it seems like the car lost control when owner picked up the car from the dealership and on the way home lost the control and smashed the car. Even then still bizard decision by insurance to fix it. I made a post about it long time ago.
i have driven multiple sorts of vehicles since i was 13 from motocross bikes to cars and even tractors. This is not to sound dumb but i do have more experience driving than any other typical 16-18yr old trying to get their permit or license for the first time, i had the freedom when i was younger of doing dumb stuff with my other cousins in open fields with the bikes, buggys and atvs we used to play with and it was that every single weekend.
I have been saving and selling stuff at my school not only for college which is cheap here specially now and also to buy myself nice things but mainly for a car, specifically a car i really like (which i can get my hands on to) which i want to keep as long as the car lasts since i dont have plans of selling it unless bigger and better oportunities are given
If the main issue is time and the wait, i can deal with it, im comitted to be on that slow learning process
Suit yourself man, my position comes from not as much a question of experience but maturity. You may well have the experience you have, but at 18 your perception of both your abilities, as well as your judgement is significantly different than when you're older. The fast you have become so defensive at even the suggestion proves my point. I've been a firefighter for 22 years, some of the nastiest wrecks I've been to are often the guys just like you, been riding driving since before it was legal, but still 18 + big HP. Hell I had a 500HP Turbo Trans Am when I was 20. When I think back to the things I did in that car I am amazed I didn't die, and now I wish my younger self would have heeded the warning not to take those risks (or probably just not buy that car).
That and I also have experience from when I was younger of trying to fix a car that was beyond my capability, this particular car can be a basket case when its NOT wrecked. I think you want to drive and IMO you should be driving as soon as you can. I know you want to learn, I just think you're jumping on to the black diamond ski slope in terms of a rebuild when you should start a bit lower, not just from the HP POV, but from the complexity POV. Its not a matter of being exposed to mechanics, its a matter of it being a complicated car that also needs some specialized tools and computers just to get it to work right. Aside from being a pain to get parts for. I'm saying I hope your first experience rebuilding a car is enriching and fun and educational as it should be. Not frustrating and time consuming, and possibly a huge waste of money, as this may turn out to be.
Suit yourself man, my position comes from not as much a question of experience but maturity. You may well have the experience you have, but at 18 your perception of both your abilities, as well as your judgement is significantly different than when you're older. The fast you have become so defensive at even the suggestion proves my point. I've been a firefighter for 22 years, some of the nastiest wrecks I've been to are often the guys just like you, been riding driving since before it was legal, but still 18 + big HP. Hell I had a 500HP Turbo Trans Am when I was 20. When I think back to the things I did in that car I am amazed I didn't die, and now I wish my younger self would have heeded the warning not to take those risks (or probably just not buy that car).
That and I also have experience from when I was younger of trying to fix a car that was beyond my capability, this particular car can be a basket case when its NOT wrecked. I think you want to drive and IMO you should be driving as soon as you can. I know you want to learn, I just think you're jumping on to the black diamond ski slope in terms of a rebuild when you should start a bit lower, not just from the HP POV, but from the complexity POV. Its not a matter of being exposed to mechanics, its a matter of it being a complicated car that also needs some specialized tools and computers just to get it to work right. Aside from being a pain to get parts for. I'm saying I hope your first experience rebuilding a car is enriching and fun and educational as it should be. Not frustrating and time consuming, and possibly a huge waste of money, as this may turn out to be.
Suit yourself man, my position comes from not as much a question of experience but maturity. You may well have the experience you have, but at 18 your perception of both your abilities, as well as your judgement is significantly different than when you're older. The fast you have become so defensive at even the suggestion proves my point. I've been a firefighter for 22 years, some of the nastiest wrecks I've been to are often the guys just like you, been riding driving since before it was legal, but still 18 + big HP. Hell I had a 500HP Turbo Trans Am when I was 20. When I think back to the things I did in that car I am amazed I didn't die, and now I wish my younger self would have heeded the warning not to take those risks (or probably just not buy that car).
That and I also have experience from when I was younger of trying to fix a car that was beyond my capability, this particular car can be a basket case when its NOT wrecked. I think you want to drive and IMO you should be driving as soon as you can. I know you want to learn, I just think you're jumping on to the black diamond ski slope in terms of a rebuild when you should start a bit lower, not just from the HP POV, but from the complexity POV. Its not a matter of being exposed to mechanics, its a matter of it being a complicated car that also needs some specialized tools and computers just to get it to work right. Aside from being a pain to get parts for. I'm saying I hope your first experience rebuilding a car is enriching and fun and educational as it should be. Not frustrating and time consuming, and possibly a huge waste of money, as this may turn out to be.
you make some good points and I agree with a lot of what you said but no bullshit the first time I ever skiid in my life I was 30 yrs Old and was doing black diamond by end of my first day without any issues. Some people can do things others can’t. 18 yr old Mike Trout was a better hitter than any 30 yr old in baseball. 18yr old firefighter may be quicker, faster and more reactive than a 40yr old one. Everyone is different and has different abilities. With that said I would avoid rebuilding any Alfa Romeo when parts are limited, expensive and slow. Easier to just buy used.
My opinion specifically since it’s your decision but qv salavaged with limited budget doesnt seem like a good financial decision. Parts on qv are very very expensive.
Before I purchased my qv, i was looking at a qv with a clean title but with prev demage repair history for 65k canadian. Seem to be a good deal since non accident used qv were going for over 80k. Drove the car and looked very good interior and exterior along with mechanical components. However, when i pulled the carfax, the car had repair bill of $90000 canadian. This was a front end damaged car. Not sure why insurance company did not total the car but decided to repair it when it costed as much as buying a almost new car.
The point is, it costs a lot to purchase the parts on qv that can quickly snowball..
put 23k down on a $45k QV and your payments are like $350 month and it has warranty. Just throwing that out there. You can be driving it the day it arrives. Not a year later
Buy a low mileage used Giulia in great condition. You’ll get 90% of the driving fun, and 1% of the aggravation (vs a salvaged QV). Down the road, use your money and time to mod the Giulia.
Suit yourself man, my position comes from not as much a question of experience but maturity. You may well have the experience you have, but at 18 your perception of both your abilities, as well as your judgement is significantly different than when you're older. The fast you have become so defensive at even the suggestion proves my point. I've been a firefighter for 22 years, some of the nastiest wrecks I've been to are often the guys just like you, been riding driving since before it was legal, but still 18 + big HP. Hell I had a 500HP Turbo Trans Am when I was 20. When I think back to the things I did in that car I am amazed I didn't die, and now I wish my younger self would have heeded the warning not to take those risks (or probably just not buy that car).
That and I also have experience from when I was younger of trying to fix a car that was beyond my capability, this particular car can be a basket case when its NOT wrecked. I think you want to drive and IMO you should be driving as soon as you can. I know you want to learn, I just think you're jumping on to the black diamond ski slope in terms of a rebuild when you should start a bit lower, not just from the HP POV, but from the complexity POV. Its not a matter of being exposed to mechanics, its a matter of it being a complicated car that also needs some specialized tools and computers just to get it to work right. Aside from being a pain to get parts for. I'm saying I hope your first experience rebuilding a car is enriching and fun and educational as it should be. Not frustrating and time consuming, and possibly a huge waste of money, as this may turn out to be.
something i did learn doing dumb stuff is to have respect on the streets, im not the most experienced but i definetly have better common thinking and problem solving than most my age specially in my region, you cannot go around thinking you know it all and you are the best driver specially at my age and older. And its clear in my conscience i wont be pushing the car at all until i feel comfortable in it
put 23k down on a $45k QV and your payments are like $350 month and it has warranty. Just throwing that out there. You can be driving it the day it arrives. Not a year later
something i did learn doing dumb stuff is to have respect on the streets, im not the most experienced but i definetly have better common thinking and problem solving than most my age specially in my region, you cannot go around thinking you know it all and you are the best driver specially at my age and older. And its clear in my conscience i wont be pushing the car at all until i feel comfortable in it
put 23k down on a $45k QV and your payments are like $350 month and it has warranty. Just throwing that out there. You can be driving it the day it arrives. Not a year later
Buy a low mileage used Giulia in great condition. You’ll get 90% of the driving fun, and 1% of the aggravation (vs a salvaged QV). Down the road, use your money and time to mod the Giulia.
i will definetly take it into account but i also need to be sure on my economic situation and wether i can pull it out succesfully, i also know its the best option overall but there are always tradeoffs
cugino you’re gonna be in debt the rest of your life lol. Never ends my friend. Spend it when you are young , fit, have all your hair and wake up wit a hard on cause no sense in saving it all for when you old, fat, bald and popping viagara like tic tacs. Don’t waste it all. But def don’t save it all either. Live life. No regrets. Maybe a few.
You would likely have a more successful project if you picked a locally popular model. You could find local parts and people to ask for help when when you get stuck. The QV is a complex vehicle that would be a better project after a few successful rebuilds behind you.
You would likely have a more successful project if you picked a locally popular model. You could find local parts and people to ask for help when when you get stuck. The QV is a complex vehicle that would be a better project after a few successful rebuilds behind you.
QV is neither complex nor difficult project. It's just expensive to rebuild as it's high performance car. You could take crashed M3/M4 and it would be same story.
Parts are expensive new, not much used ones and 500hp plus power doesn't help as most crashed cars end up being pile of metal.
If 23k budget is for the car + repairs then just forget it. Or start saving cause it's completely unrealistic
You know another option is buy a ti from the auction and get a tune, intake, exhaust.
It’s no qv but it’s definitely way cheaper too. I’ve seen some go for 4k at the auction😄
You’d prob spend around 7k for the car and about 1500$ in repairs.
These cars get totaled out so fast.
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