I'd be perfectly content with 350-400hp, RWD, and as light as they can possibly get itI think part of the problem right now is that a lot of electric cars on the market kind of suck. They don`t even make a 2 door EV(besides a supercar) yet. Most of them are ugly and have 200 miles of range. Tesla cars have gotten so common as well.
I think a EV Giulia sedan with AWD 1,000HP with classic Alfa styling will be a pretty cool car. Although the sound and driving characteristics of a gas performance car will probably remain sought after for a while.
While I understand your viewpoint and totally understand how heavy EVs are getting. I think its pretty clear the direction Alfa is probably going.I'd be perfectly content with 350-400hp, RWD, and as light as they can possibly get it
With EVs, the more HP = exponentially more weight. 1000hp = 5500 lb boat with today's technology.
When I'm throwing my Giulia around corners and in the canyons, the last thing I care for his more HP.
According to Tesla:I'd be perfectly content with 350-400hp, RWD, and as light as they can possibly get it
With EVs, the more HP = exponentially more weight. 1000hp = 5500 lb boat with today's technology.
When I'm throwing my Giulia around corners and in the canyons, the last thing I care for his more HP.
At first they deny the torque converter problem, which caused a vibration like roof road pavement when your foot was steady on the pedal from 30 to 60 mph. Then they were replacing torque converters, and then they came up with a solution which involved flushing the transmission fluid three times, forward and backwards or something and using Mobil 1. They claimed there was some bad or contaminated transmission fluid originally, which caused slippage (others thought the real problem was the deactivation of half the pistons with the energy saving system, I Forget what it's called). For most of that seem to solve the problem but with my card came back about a year later worse and at higher speeds. The dealer Service Manager said the torque converter might have been damaged and need replacement, under warranty, but I could just imagine the things that could go wrong with that. I never had any problem with the actual transmission, it worked flawlessly, at least on my 2017, and the acceleration from start was impressive. The CT5-V Blackwing, using the same engine and supercharger actually gets 28 more horsepower and 29 more foot pounds of torque than the CTS-V. And the Blacwing is available in a 6-speed manual, one of the few cars today that offers a manual, although acceleration is faster with the automatic.Automatic transmissions has always been a problem in American cars. Luckily they had manual options in the past. But I could see the engine making up for a lot of the problems. The sound and power of that supercharged V8 is something. I would be open minded to at least driving one. I also have a GM employee family discount, which would help on cost haha.
You mean gas QV ownership. Because the next generation will be electric.Anyone who appreciates EV here is not compatible with QV ownership. Exceptions exist but this applies to 99%
Maybe they will at least do the right thing and not call it the QV. Maybe a “Quadrielectrical I give zero Fs” or something like that.You mean gas QV ownership. Because the next generation will be electric.
Yessir.You mean gas QV ownership. Because the next generation will be electric.
the problem is, when i get out of my QV into my other car (2014 infinti Q50 hybrid sport) which is right in your range. 370 hp, RWD, it feels so slow, when in reality its not. I drove my buddys C8 corvette the other day and it was not signficantly faster than the QV. off the line yes (with launch control), but from a freeway speed, no not really.I'd be perfectly content with 350-400hp, RWD, and as light as they can possibly get it
With EVs, the more HP = exponentially more weight. 1000hp = 5500 lb boat with today's technology.
When I'm throwing my Giulia around corners and in the canyons, the last thing I care for his more HP.
This reminds me of a video I recently watched that concluded that our perception of speed often isn’t a reliable gauge of how fast we are actually going. We are much better at feeling acceleration than speed. How fast we think we are travelling often depends on factors other than velocity, such as how the vehicle is sprung or how high we are sitting off the ground.the problem is, when i get out of my QV into my other car (2014 infinti Q50 hybrid sport) which is right in your range. 370 hp, RWD, it feels so slow, when in reality its not. I drove my buddys C8 corvette the other day and it was not signficantly faster than the QV. off the line yes (with launch control), but from a freeway speed, no not really.
In my mind anything below 400hp is kind of slow for the modern age. A common V8 muscle car is going to be faster. But that doesn`t mean they aren`t fun or worth buying though.the problem is, when i get out of my QV into my other car (2014 infinti Q50 hybrid sport) which is right in your range. 370 hp, RWD, it feels so slow, when in reality its not. I drove my buddys C8 corvette the other day and it was not signficantly faster than the QV. off the line yes (with launch control), but from a freeway speed, no not really.
agreed. a camry is 305 hp. tesla model 3 dual motor is 470. with the new age of electric cars and instant acceleration response, i agree that 400 HP is the minimum barometer for something to be considered remotely fast.In my mind anything below 400hp is kind of slow for the modern age. A common V8 muscle car is going to be faster. But that doesn`t mean they aren`t fun or worth buying though.
I would go so far as to agree with scoped within a certain type or segment of vehicle. I can think of many things way under your proposed threshold that is objectively fast.agreed. a camry is 305 hp. tesla model 3 dual motor is 470. with the new age of electric cars and instant acceleration response, i agree that 400 HP is the minimum barometer for something to be considered remotely fast.
I do see a world where things are going to get stupid fast with electric cars. Won`t be surprised to see government regulations limit the power you can have on public roads eventually.agreed. a camry is 305 hp. tesla model 3 dual motor is 470. with the new age of electric cars and instant acceleration response, i agree that 400 HP is the minimum barometer for something to be considered remotely fast.
Perfection of the internal combustion engine over a couple hundred years is being trashed because of an ideology. And the infrastructure for electrical charging is not even near ready, so will people be charging in their garages--quite limiting. Hypothetically, I don't have a problem with electric versions if they can retain the same handling characteristics; I think Alfa, or maybe it's Lotus, plans to stack all the batteries in the center of the car for best center of balance.You mean gas QV ownership. Because the next generation will be electric.
At the end of the day the consumers will speak with their wallets. If charging still sucks then people will keep gas cars. We still have another decade or so before any of those gas car bans are put in place. You can probably count on them being moved back another decade after that.Perfection of the internal combustion engine over a couple hundred years is being trashed because of an ideology. And the infrastructure for electrical charging is not even near ready, so will people be charging in their garages--quite limiting. Hypothetically, I don't have a problem with electric versions if they can retain the same handling characteristics; I think Alfa, or maybe it's Lotus, plans to stack all the batteries in the center of the car for best center of balance.
Yup, that's how they're going to do it. The new Maserati Folgore did exactly that, put the batteries in the center "tunnel" of the car instead of making the typical skateboard that everyone else does. Oh, and I hear it's the Giorgio platform, which was supposed to not be "electrifiable" ....Perfection of the internal combustion engine over a couple hundred years is being trashed because of an ideology. And the infrastructure for electrical charging is not even near ready, so will people be charging in their garages--quite limiting. Hypothetically, I don't have a problem with electric versions if they can retain the same handling characteristics; I think Alfa, or maybe it's Lotus, plans to stack all the batteries in the center of the car for best center of balance.
